Haunter Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Ayy sup fellow meme lords and trash talkers, cringy BnS player here. So apparently this happened to some BnS servers after the lvl 55 patch hit.(UPDATE) Welp, looks like it's a lot worse than simple crit loss, if this is accurate, we'll lose a LOT of stats % overall, which is much worse than simply losing crit... This is their stats %, Before 55, after 55, and how much % we lost all together.(Image provided by Amokk) Not only is it scary to see, it also raises a lot of questions, will we all legit LOSE a lot of damage and have to get it all back again ourselves? Or will our stats be untouched and it's simply just the numbers changing for future content? I pray that we all don't take a big hammer to the face after the update so, some info would be swell kthnxbye. (P.S. Show mercy NcSoft, I swipe!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozuki Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 If your critical rate, critical damage and accuracy works well on lv50 mobs, then it will continue to work well on lv50 mobs despite of seeing less values. However, you will need to upgrade your gear to improve your stat for lv55 contents. Craft Masterwork pieces with Soul Wardens and exchange for BT/VT primers to maximize your critical rate. Spicy Dumpling gives you a good chunk of critical rate too. For accuracy, use Spicy Dumpling, use Accuracy Achievement Bonus (100 from 10-run Lair of Frozen Fangs, or 300 from 100 Naryu Sanctum runs). If you use 3 VT, use 2-3-4 VT to suffer less from the loss of accuracy. Fuse some Accuracy Primers if necessary. You will also have more Accuracy from the new glove slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Falz Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Also of note, most of the level 50 purple dungeons as well as the raids get updated so that they're level 55. So most of the stuff you probably do already will be affected by your reduced stat values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rysa Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Dark Falz said: Also of note, most of the level 50 purple dungeons as well as the raids get updated so that they're level 55. So most of the stuff you probably do already will be affected by your reduced stat values. Why would old lv 50 content get upscaled to lv 55 values? It doesn't make any sense and it's backwards thinking, what's the point of a level cap increase if you become weaker than now? Only Starstone Mines / Hollow's Heart and upcoming content should be scaled to 55. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunter Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 35 minutes ago, Rysa said: Why would old lv 50 content get upscaled to lv 55 values? It doesn't make any sense and it's backwards thinking, what's the point of a level cap increase if you become weaker than now? Only Starstone Mines / Hollow's Heart and upcoming content should be scaled to 55. This is exactly why i went on and made a thread about this, if we legit get this change and we all suffer major reduction in damage overall, we deserve to know early on. Nothing was said about this in their latest livestream... However they did say that they would upscale a lot of the dungeons to 55, which just makes the overall situation more terrifying. I highly doubt NcSoft would straight up cover something like this up, that would be silly. However, A lot of things really don't add up, some infomation and/or context about this would truly be appreciated, because truly..as Rysa said, This is legit some extreme backwards thinking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Shinwa Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 "Cyan Community Coordinator NCSOFT 478 posts Report post Posted Wednesday at 11:58 PM Hi all, Just to clear some confusion, the bosses in the upcoming patch will have their levels increased up. Some of you may remember when their level was increased with a previous patch, so you can expect the same bosses. " Meaning, all of the purple level 50 silverfrost dungeons, Mushin Tower, Celestial Basin and everything else that got boosted by mistake in that september patch until they corrected it will be boosted permanently now. In my opinion, this will make game life very tough for not well geared characters, new and/or old. Which makes the thread about daily challenge not being very "newbie friendly" even more relevant. But of course, let's wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Falz Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Rysa said: Why would old lv 50 content get upscaled to lv 55 values? It doesn't make any sense and it's backwards thinking, what's the point of a level cap increase if you become weaker than now? Only Starstone Mines / Hollow's Heart and upcoming content should be scaled to 55. This was discussed in another thread where a forum mod popped up to confirm that they are in fact raising the boss levels. Also it's not a huge surprise to anyone who keeps tabs on what updates other regions get as they did this with the bosses on all the other regions that already have lvl 55 From our point of view it is backwards but the reason they did it that way was because in Korea they were hitting 70%+ crit chance and whatnot so the point was to bring their stats back down. It will however hit us harder since we didnt have the time to gear up to that point like they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amokk Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunter Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 @amokk Thank you very much for a better image and even more info about the changes, yeaaah doesn't look too bright for us... Unless Ncsoft US/EU decide not to do these changes, which i really hope will be the case. Otherwise...prepare urselves everyone, it's gonna hurt big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Shinwa Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Haunter said: @amokk Thank you very much for a better image and even more info about the changes, yeaaah doesn't look too bright for us... Unless Ncsoft US/EU decide not to do these changes, which i really hope will be the case. Otherwise...prepare urselves everyone, it's gonna hurt big time. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caioc2 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 If all that is true, im sure atleast 80% of population is fked up, because they (me included) still farming, trying to get to current end game content. Getting that big nerf will make it even harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Shinwa Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, caioc2 said: If all that is true, im sure atleast 80% of population is fked up, because they (me included) still farming, trying to get to current end game content. Getting that big nerf will make it even harder. That's the reason behind my concern. I have been playing daily since the 19 January 2015, not a whale, not able to spend too much time a day in the game either, slowly, very slowly making my way towards end game too, loyal to a game that I love despite its many issues. What I fear might be coming could shatter it for me and probably for many others, so yeah, I am worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiana Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 14 hours ago, Rysa said: Why would old lv 50 content get upscaled to lv 55 values? It doesn't make any sense and it's backwards thinking, what's the point of a level cap increase if you become weaker than now? Only Starstone Mines / Hollow's Heart and upcoming content should be scaled to 55. to keep the content relevent, if they're not increase the boss lvl.. then DT, EC, NF, NS will become like yeti and frozen lair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayhaSeer Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 45 minutes ago, Fiana said: to keep the content relevent, if they're not increase the boss lvl.. then DT, EC, NF, NS will become like yeti and frozen lair They already are. and they still will be after 55... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiana Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 well, i dunno.. maybe the korean dev decided otherwise and we haven't got list which boss get buff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twan7718 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 This is going to screw a lot of people I think initially. A perfect example I can think of is the Raven King, where from 100-30% isn't going to be a big deal, however when he starts the clock/pizza phase at 30%, you need the DPS to burn him and the SS adds as quickly as possible, because dragging this part of it out will result in a wipe. To lose that kind of stats across an entire raid could be devastating and make what once was achievable for some not anymore. Considering we just solved this guy ourselves, this could mean trouble for those that were looking forward to getting their raven weapons finally. It's not like he drops the items for the upgrade like it's candy, only one per kill. I guess we will find out post patch if we can still kill him and not wipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoannaRamira Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 see if i could still solo Citadel after Dec 6 /tmi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimoir Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Dont forget we are getting a new gear item aswel, which should boost some stats up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunter Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 The patch notes should be coming today/tomorrow, hopefully they'll address this and give us our answers. I wish you all the best of luck, we'll all need it if this actually happens soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caioc2 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Just made a test with lv 55 and the gloves from quest. Lost 15-20% DPS, GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunter Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 (UPDATE) Looks like this turned out to be true, everyone that hits lvl 55 will see their stats/DPS drop, AP will increase as well. However don't be fooled, ur % matter just as much, if not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirukaru Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 % matters way more My damage got so low as a warlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper00 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Why are you surprised by this? The same thing happened when the level cap went from 45 to 50 back in March 2016 : Looking at your profiles and most of you were here for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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