Fifi2 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Hujikar transform weapon.... is in a chest, within a chest on a RNG mechanic in a quest boss that respans from 5 to 10 minutes... Trully magnificent, and the Item is not even Tradable! I wanna shake the hand of the game designer who invented this "quest" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocdog Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 LOL, you haven't gotten to Profane yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaerin Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Around that level, they literally give you a brilliant key so unless you've already used it, then this shouldn't be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawasaki Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 And if i remember correctly both chests require 2-3 keys to open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricLyn Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 15 minutes ago, Kawasaki said: And if i remember correctly both chests require 2-3 keys to open. This is the biggest problem lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuz Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 23 minutes ago, Xaerin said: Around that level, they literally give you a brilliant key so unless you've already used it, then this shouldn't be a problem. This is exactly what I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverybodyLovesPenguins Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 when you hit cap and do dailies, keys are pretty much junk.. especially when you already have good gear.. unsealing charms is the one you should stockpile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifi2 Posted February 23, 2016 Author Share Posted February 23, 2016 6 hours ago, rocdog said: LOL, you haven't gotten to Profane yet. Because I dont have the time to grind, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinmi Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 i got briliant keys from survey, so i use that on that, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyranthes Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 If you're complaining heavily about this, might as well quit now. The game has the same pattern for upgrading until the very end plus the added cost of materials and gold later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuroAka Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 The biggest issue is the grind walls that they have created do to this game being f2p. RNG chest that have weapons that you need for progression, the amount of gold or gold at all that you need to upgrade your gear to progress, all of the different trade in able items that you need to progress, the stones you need to progress that are only gained throw the gold grind/ economy that is completely flewed based on items that are needed for progression gained only by crafting. You take this all away, create quests/quest chines to be able to gain the items to progress. Have a loot system that actually helps players and grow a community; not one that creates competition and tolling that creates toxic unwanted behavior. Make the repeat quests much more easily understandable to what they are for and what items they give that are not RNG boxes. Create actual objective based open world PvP, battlegrounds, normal 2v2 and 3v3 match types without a tag mechanic. Do all of these things and take away walls in favor for a sub, that doesn't need to be the standard $15 per month. Say $5.99 per month with the cash shop items with no currency exchange and no Ncoin. You just buy the items like customs, cosmetic accessories, weapon skins, name changes, appearance changes, different dashing effects for a set dollar amount. These items are account wide and can be equipped to any character. Games are so post to be fun, to socialize and have great experiences through game play with other people. They are not to be jobs, based on doing monotonous tasks and RNG boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominator Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Hujikar , profane, and forgot bringston, , best chance to use key is on bringston, but in reality good is 2 brilliant key for Hujikar , and all will super Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocdog Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Fifi2 said: Because I dont have the time to grind, maybe. No, time has nothing to do with it. If you think it's tough getting the weapon from Huji, I got 3 costumes and 3 accessories while trying to get my FM's profane weapon. It comes after Huji, so you still have that to look forward to. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloreSurana Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Why blaming NC soft here ? .... =.= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocdog Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 13 minutes ago, KuroAka said: Create actual objective based open world PvP, battlegrounds, normal 2v2 and 3v3 match types without a tag mechanic. They do have objective-based OWPvP. The objective is for the faction with greater numbers make it impossible for the outnumbered faction to do their dailies or progress their gear unless they do arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilkemios Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 30 minutes ago, KuroAka said: Do all of these things and take away walls in favor for a sub, that doesn't need to be the standard $15 per month. Say $5.99 per month with the cash shop items with no currency exchange and no Ncoin. You just buy the items like customs, cosmetic accessories, weapon skins, name changes, appearance changes, different dashing effects for a set dollar amount. These items are account wide and can be equipped to any character. Subcription, no thanks. Account wide accessibility to outfits, yes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimo Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 While the chest inside the chest is a bit annoying, isn't Hujikar the one that you summon by killing a pig nearby and placing it on the offering stone? I was not aware that it had any type of respawn timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xioz Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 It has a respawn timer. This is the chest you should use your free brilliant key considering you can buy Storm Siren, Siren, Silver Deva and the rest from the npc. The Profane weapon is easier to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauneh Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 8 hours ago, Fifi2 said: Hujikar transform weapon.... is in a chest, within a chest on a RNG mechanic in a quest boss that respans from 5 to 10 minutes... Trully magnificent, and the Item is not even Tradable! I wanna shake the hand of the game designer who invented this "quest" I used 72 keys today on this, was a fantastic day. Considering the fact that the game literally has no one playing anymore in the the lower areas (which is sad because this is actually an endgame zone). I was forced to solo majority of them. Not only was it frustrating, it was also extremely boring. I even got pics of the last bit, after my d/c showing the obvious manipulated rng, for items not of your class. Also for the morons that say use your brilliant key from the survey, or "Buy a $10 key". First off, if you think Hujikar was worth the brilliant key, I can't wait to see your complaints later when you realize you wasted the key on something although tedious, a lot easier to obtain than other later important weapon chests. THAT'S WHY THEY GIVE IT TO YOU SO SOON. (dummies) They force you to waste it so soon, so that later in the game when you find out there are chests worst than Hujikar, you would go and buy keys from the store for them now that you know the "convenience" of the keys. Which leads me to the idiots that say buy a key for $10. Anyone with common sense, and understand how badly rng is manipulated in this game, would NEVER waste money on a greedy company like NCsoft; A FTP model is MADE to force you into buying items from the store, their job when "localizing" a game included changing aspects of the game, to force you to use the shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuroAka Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 39 minutes ago, rocdog said: They do have objective-based OWPvP. The objective is for the faction with greater numbers make it impossible for the outnumbered faction to do their dailies or progress their gear unless they do arena. Guess you don't understand what the word "objective" means. Lol, Zerging is not PvP and if you think it is. You are part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestine Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Depending how far you want to go, you might want to save your brilliant key from the survey. I also didn't know that there's a hidden timer in it, I just thought the boss always spawns upon offering a pig. Try Channel 1 as players usually gather there to kill bosses. I passed by Hujikar this week, I was around lvl 41. So soloing is quite hard. Keep in mind that you need your first moonwater transformation stone (MTS) for the Hujikar weapon. So even if you get the Hujikar, you can't transform unless you have the expensive MTS, which goes for roughly 5-6g (plus 2.5g for the transformation cost). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IggyZecrow Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Shauneh said: I used 72 keys today on this, was a fantastic day. Considering the fact that the game literally has no one playing anymore in the the lower areas (which is sad because this is actually an endgame zone). I was forced to solo majority of them. Not only was it frustrating, it was also extremely boring. I even got pics of the last bit, after my d/c showing the obvious manipulated rng, for items not of your class. Also for the morons that say use your brilliant key from the survey, or "Buy a $10 key". First off, if you think Hujikar was worth the brilliant key, I can't wait to see your complaints later when you realize you wasted the key on something although tedious, a lot easier to obtain than other later important weapon chests. THAT'S WHY THEY GIVE IT TO YOU SO SOON. (dummies) They force you to waste it so soon, so that later in the game when you find out there are chests worst than Hujikar, you would go and buy keys from the store for them now that you know the "convenience" of the keys. Which leads me to the idiots that say buy a key for $10. Anyone with common sense, and understand how badly rng is manipulated in this game, would NEVER waste money on a greedy company like NCsoft; A FTP model is MADE to force you into buying items from the store, their job when "localizing" a game included changing aspects of the game, to force you to use the shop. You know, you can get your point across without having to resort to calling people morons or dumb. I get that your frustrated but there's no need to create unnecessary hostility towards people who are only trying to give some advice (regardless if it is good or bad). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rief Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 10 hours ago, Fifi2 said: Hujikar transform weapon.... is in a chest, within a chest on a RNG mechanic in a quest boss that respans from 5 to 10 minutes... Trully magnificent, and the Item is not even Tradable! I wanna shake the hand of the game designer who invented this "quest" Jump from channel to channel. Look for someone that's also hunting it. Avoid doing it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalaxies Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Keys are super cheap on market, farming is a pain but just channel hop between 1 and 2 and I got 10 chests in less than 30 min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestine Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Ahem. Please keep in mind that you're around lvl 40/41 when going against Hujikar. You are not in the convenient position to get a key per daily like we lvl 45 do. Also my server is quite dead; I'm super lucky to have met 1-2 players at Hujikar in Ch. 1 only to team up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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