Despondency Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 9 minutes ago, DabMarley said: This about the 100th thread on this exact idea. I haven't seen any others like this. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpyderBite Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Wow. Must be new to the Internet. Player moderated forums have always been historically a disaster. Favoritism is just the beginning of all the problems player run forums have experienced in the past. Always has and always will be a very bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitah Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Just now, SpyderBite said: Wow. Must be new to the Internet. Player moderated forums have always been historically a disaster. Favoritism is just the beginning of all the problems player run forums have experienced in the past. Always has and always will be a very bad idea. I don't believe you have read the thread. We aren't on about a player moderated forum, we are on about mute positions in-world for a select few people who have been chosen as moderators in each server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpyderBite Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Just now, Kitah said: I don't believe you have read the thread. We aren't on about a player moderated forum, we are on about mute positions in-world for a select few people who have been chosen as moderators in each server. My bad. I did indeed misunderstand. However, in my defense, the term "moderator" has never been used to describe an in-game presence. Only forums and chat rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forien Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 @Despondency sure, feel free to copy list or quote my post :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabMarley Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, SpyderBite said: Wow. Must be new to the Internet. Player moderated forums have always been historically a disaster. Favoritism is just the beginning of all the problems player run forums have experienced in the past. Always has and always will be a very bad idea. Could you start your comment like more of a douche bag? Player moderation on the forum is not what OP said in the slightest. Learn to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despondency Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, SpyderBite said: My bad. I did indeed misunderstand. However, in my defense, the term "moderator" has never been used to describe an in-game presence. Only forums and chat rooms. You called my new to the Internet. :s in-game moderators have been around on a lot of games. As I have mentioned various times, RuneScape employed this method, and I may add that it was done rather flawlessly, never saw many of them power abusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offended Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 So the game will be like reddit. Player moderator: Are you Korean? Sori Hijoon: No Player Moderator: Cultural appropriation, Check your privilege racist, I'm changing your name and banning you from you all chat. As a paying customer I fully support and encourage NCSoft hiring employees to moderate chat, hopefully they will deal with all the gold spammers so they can see the offensive players. However, I refuse to support a system where I pay to be victimized by some other customer or F2P who is a biased fanatic who hates me because I killed him in pvp once before. I have no interest in spending a week dealing with customer service to get chat rights or name back because I sell a crafted item cheaper or pvped someone better. Then there is political chat. We all know from experience that it will be one sided moderation. Where demonizing one side in chat is allowed and anyone who questions it gets chat banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinter Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 As much as I second this idea, I don't think many players would qualify as "moderator worthy", nor do I think NCSoft would ever do this, them being bigass company who don't need no pmods. But if they do, I'm willing. Shit, they should put me in the UX team >.< The only thing a "pmod" has to have, is objectivity. That's already hard to find Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seemslegit Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Are you Korexican ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kensho1996 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 though I agree with the OP I bet that there is some law some where about this .. and you always have to worry about favoritism later on still not a bad idea as the player GMs in old EQ year ago (1998) did awesome jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shautru Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 7 hours ago, Despondency said: I really cannot see a way for this idea to backfire. Chose helpful players and give them an ability to mute players for a day. Add a little tag near their name so people know who to go to for help, much like the medal for PvP, but everywhere. Check their logs constantly to see if they're doing their job etc. I was a player moderator in RuneScape for many years, and I know that it's a cliche, but it worked so well. You begin to counter the spambot issue for free, practically. Many people would be glad to help. Especially those that would love a job, but things hold them back. Seriously, I know a lot that would accept it to just rid of the spambots. I like all of this except for the part of being seen. I'd want to be invis as I think maybe after a while the spammers themselves would recognize the char and just stop spamming while I'm in that zone. Besides while I don't mind being helpful, I wouldn't want to spammed with questions from people while I was trying to block folks nor do I want to ignore them and make them feel 'un'helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despondency Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 11 hours ago, Offended said: So the game will be like reddit. Player moderator: Are you Korean? Sori Hijoon: No Player Moderator: Cultural appropriation, Check your privilege racist, I'm changing your name and banning you from you all chat. As a paying customer I fully support and encourage NCSoft hiring employees to moderate chat, hopefully they will deal with all the gold spammers so they can see the offensive players. However, I refuse to support a system where I pay to be victimized by some other customer or F2P who is a biased fanatic who hates me because I killed him in pvp once before. I have no interest in spending a week dealing with customer service to get chat rights or name back because I sell a crafted item cheaper or pvped someone better. Then there is political chat. We all know from experience that it will be one sided moderation. Where demonizing one side in chat is allowed and anyone who questions it gets chat banned. A lot of different information has been passed through the thread, which counters most of that instantly. 10 hours ago, Vinter said: As much as I second this idea, I don't think many players would qualify as "moderator worthy", nor do I think NCSoft would ever do this, them being bigass company who don't need no pmods. But if they do, I'm willing. Shit, they should put me in the UX team >.< The only thing a "pmod" has to have, is objectivity. That's already hard to find Lol. There's more people that wouldn't qualify than those that would, but at the same time there's plenty of well meaning players. Being a big company doesn't really mean much, honestly. While they've implemented a fix for the spambot issue, it'll continue. The spambots will just bot to level 15 or 10 and then spam again, with little issue. 8 hours ago, Seemslegit said: Are you Korexican ? What? 8 hours ago, Kensho1996 said: though I agree with the OP I bet that there is some law some where about this .. and you always have to worry about favoritism later on still not a bad idea as the player GMs in old EQ year ago (1998) did awesome jobs As stated throughout the thread, signings of a ToS and a contract, with your real details wears off most trolls. 8 hours ago, Shautru said: I like all of this except for the part of being seen. I'd want to be invis as I think maybe after a while the spammers themselves would recognize the char and just stop spamming while I'm in that zone. Besides while I don't mind being helpful, I wouldn't want to spammed with questions from people while I was trying to block folks nor do I want to ignore them and make them feel 'un'helped. The spammers are using an autotyper, I doubt even if you were in a area they'd see you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catgravy Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 On 1/26/2016 at 10:12 AM, Hoopla said: Guys like Catgravy is the reason why this would never work. "You triggered me?" Insta mute. You must be one of those that would get muted by anyone who had access. Not just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catgravy Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 On 1/26/2016 at 10:15 AM, Despondency said: Your child shouldn't be on an M rated game if you don't want them seeing profanity, however that doesn't excuse its use. I'm sure your children have heard worse, the music that is being released is questionable at most these days. Where does it say Mature? Or 16+ or whatever. I just looked all over their website, and could find no mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggar Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 10 minutes ago, Catgravy said: Where does it say Mature? Or 16+ or whatever. I just looked all over their website, and could find no mention. Are you literally blind/deaf AND dumb? http://www.bladeandsoul.com/en/ Bottom of the screen AND lets not forget the fact that they age check you upon coming to the site.... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopla Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 On 1/27/2016 at 0:02 PM, Catgravy said: You must be one of those that would get muted by anyone who had access. Not just me. And you are exactly the type of person that shouldn't be a moderator. Also, the game is obviously rated M, letting your kids play such a game when they aren't that age is fine but don't go around complaining when they see some profanity in the chat. Blame the parent, not the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhindu Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Unpaid / "Player" moderators is just asking for problems. You'll only get snakes wearing masks on board. It's happened MANY times already across other platforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 give the job to well know streamers, im sure they wouldnt wanna tarnish the reputation they have by abusing the power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhindu Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 They can also just do all of their moderating off stream to avoid that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasjelly Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I'm all for the idea and would love to help. xD It's just really annoying having to deal with those gold sellers when I want to bloody socialise. ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Bhindu said: They can also just do all of their moderating off stream to avoid that. thats why NCsoft moderates them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yui Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I don't see an issue with player moderators, I think the rights should be fine tuned a bit, Perhaps reporting priority, so when a moderator reports it gets extra attention. and perhaps only certain moderators have chat mute rights, more for offensive players then botters to stop inappropriate conversation on global chats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takeva Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 On 1/26/2016 at 11:44 AM, Offended said: So the game will be like reddit. Player moderator: Are you Korean? Sori Hijoon: No Player Moderator: Cultural appropriation, Check your privilege racist, I'm changing your name and banning you from you all chat. As a paying customer I fully support and encourage NCSoft hiring employees to moderate chat, hopefully they will deal with all the gold spammers so they can see the offensive players. However, I refuse to support a system where I pay to be victimized by some other customer or F2P who is a biased fanatic who hates me because I killed him in pvp once before. I have no interest in spending a week dealing with customer service to get chat rights or name back because I sell a crafted item cheaper or pvped someone better. Then there is political chat. We all know from experience that it will be one sided moderation. Where demonizing one side in chat is allowed and anyone who questions it gets chat banned. You know a paid employee can hate you. At least, you can prove that a player is being biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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