Unicorns Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I was just wondering which of them 2 has a higher dps output, ive only played BnS on versions where WL were not a thing, so i really have no idea, and im just looking to make a ranged alt with high dps, and since i hate summoners with passion, FM or WL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffresia Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Force Master has a higher DPS output... Warlock has group buffs for PVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luzzifer Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I keep reading that FM is doing higher DPS but at least at low level ( WL and FM both level 10 now ) I kill stuff way faster with my WL. Does that change later on then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamein Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Luzzifer said: I keep reading that FM is doing higher DPS but at least at low level ( WL and FM both level 10 now ) I kill stuff way faster with my WL. Does that change later on then ? Don't compare things at low level. End game wise, FM's are just machine guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prototypemind Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Even at lower level FM definitely has better DPS on bosses. Mobs are maybe faster with WL in some cases, but if pure DPS is your interest FM wins all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordon Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 WL seen to be better on low lv cause it has more Brust dmg than FM but on bosses and high lv content FM has more dps for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppy Pie Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 FM & Sin are the top dps in other servers but it doesn't mean warlock sucks it does bring nice goodies to the party and trust me everyone wants a goodie bag when they go to a party lol (No I do not play a warlock I dislike the class, but for other reasons BUT I would still always want one in my party!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginki Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 after the nerf on Warlock that we already have it, FM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinaCrysta Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I have both.Warlock is better dps earlier on cause they get theit best atk ((dragoncall) really really early,but up there in lvls fms do way more dps.Warlock dps still big tho its nothing to scoff at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 On 3/4/2016 at 8:34 PM, Ginki said: after the nerf on Warlock that we already have it, FM You do know that the "nerfed" version of WL doesn't nerf the damage it does. The nerf was in defensive abillities and heals , which only hinders it in PvP.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppy Pie Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 FM, warlock is just meh... for me at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric11zhao Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 i tried them both, and leveled them both to 34, but now i am sure i will stick with fm, because of fast cast and easier to play than warlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMelo Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I got both FM and WL at 45 and both at Pirate weapon/accessories and I do dailies on both and farm BW on both too, FM will have easier time and more consistent damage output and I'm always getting brilliant BW chest on FM while with WL I'm not guarantee to get Brilliant chest Box. However, I love WL more because it's more fun play style than FM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naekuh Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 FM has a lot more DPS... If your warlock is doing more DPS in lvl45 zone your just not playing the FM correctly... cuz even ice build with ice rain can outdps a warlock with only 2 buttons... I find the FM a lot easier to play too,, cuz its just hold down LMB, tap RMB once in a while.. while Spaming "F" nonstop.. And poping your 4+2 skill every time its off cooldown or during a rotation... vs.. a WL where u need to keep hitting that second tier dragon call with instant cast or a skill to refresh dragon call to that instant cast one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l2x0 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 its ur choice u can make high dps more than FM if u made ur skills right and know how to play its pointless asking ppl about something u didn't try cuz u may not like it so try both and see what suits u better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naekuh Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 well u also have to factor we get a uber skill unlocked at 45 which is very spamable... And that skill also gives a nice 10% dmg buff to fire skills which burning build is built around... So its not really fair to compare the 2 classes until you hit 45.. This is under the assumption u didnt buy that 400g WL skill book... because being able to cast that dragon twice in a row is seriously OP.... and would probably give a FM a good run for its money on DPS... However i think a good rotation FM still would outdps that without a required 400g book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaite Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Have WL/FM both at 45 w/pirate siren accessories... FM tops warlock in almost every way possible. The only thing a FM doesn't offer is the party buff. I'd take a FM over a WL in a party or simply take both. In short, the amount of damage a FM does compared to a WL isn't even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enamour Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Have both at 45. I feel like my True Profane can out damage my Warlock with the addition of standard burns that FM has. As for Warlock, if you run Hongmoon Dragoncall, your burst potential is insane but it relies on Leech 4, 3 reset for a double instant-cast Dragoncall into Time Distortion (if you're alone or just being greedy af) into 6-10+ Dragoncalls (you can leave at the previously mentioned 3 reset to get in more Dragoncalls). The downside is that your DC resets are conditional (you need high crit for consistency) and your damage falls off the face of the Earth during your down time (when Leech is down). Dragon Helix is more consistent but no where near the damage output from RMB LMB 2 basic ani cancel of a FM. Toss in Inferno to reapply burn after a Dual Dragon and fire V (the meteor one I'm forgetting) and the occasional impact to det embers to keep 100% burn...that's a crap ton of damage compared to Warlock with no down time due to RL2 or RLF (whichever floats your boat) spam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FryChikN Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 basically what im getting from this is, warlocks kind of suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naekuh Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 hells no... warlocks soul burn is very op... and has saved our group from the enrage timer many times due to noobs coming into bsh maps with sub 320 AP gear even. and yes you are a noob for coming into a bsh map with less then 320AP... You should know better... or your just asking to be carried so you can get your bsh soul shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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