temple of eluvium is impossible to find and do.

[schupunk]

temple of eluvium guides in youtube are poorly done, about every 10 seconds, youtubers there just say something like stun here, move here, cc here, block here, do not go here, pick up this and that, i can never memorize 100's of all these. keropi youtuber shows some of chinese asuara, is this even temple of  eluvium? i have no idea.

 

since the reward of temple of eluvium is about 50 golds, i would imagine this dungeon may be really difficult. but last two weeks, anyone was hardly doing temple of eluvium, even if they did, it came with scion + eluvium package, this was impossible to do both for someone who has never done and seen these before. i was able to join once single eluvium run after 10 days looking at the world chat for 6 hours a day. but even this was dismissed soon after 20 minutes later.

 

now i can not open stage 5 armory chest.

[Shekinah]

Temple of Eluvium and Scion's keep are fairly old content and groups are often searched in faction chat. Guides are pretty much outdated because even with story gear you can skip many mechanics. I don't really understand why the package was impossible to do for you. If you don't know what to do because you haven bever been there just ask the ones searching. usually you'll get an answer like: "Doesn't matter, just dps."

The later raids are harder and rarely done outside of static groups.

[Grimoir]

Your best bet is to find runs after maintenance on wednesday and through friday / saturday. Though there might be less runs sicne more people will focus on the new IA raid, so less carries.

[schupunk]

most runs right after maint

fast run

ap 2000+

know mech

tiger souls

none of the above applies to my case. except for wacthed enough mech videos

 

if eluvium youtube guide video looked that difficult and gives 50 gold reward, why should i add a more difficut dungeon to deal with a lesser difficult dungeon, it doesnt sound logical to me.

 

 

[Arohk]

Find a clan, get some help.

 

Also.. You don't need to remember every little detail of mechanic, only the role you have to do, which is about 1/4 of all the bossmechanics.

 

I am the main tank in our clan, i have to remember much more mech and boss attack pattern then anyone else in the raid, and you know what i did? 

When we attemptt a new boss for the first time, and i don't know how i dodge or when i run where and use which ability?

I pull the boss see how he attacks and die

and pull the boss again and die again over and over

until i remember the pattern and perfect my skill rotation to dodge everything and not get hit anymore, that often takes many many tries, and little by little you find new small improvements to do it better.

Edited April 21, 2020 by Arohk

[Shekinah]

8 minutes ago, schupunk said:

most runs right after maint

fast run

ap 2000+

know mech

tiger souls

none of the above applies to my case. except for wacthed enough mech videos

 

if eluvium youtube guide video looked that difficult and gives 50 gold reward, why should i add a more difficut dungeon to deal with a lesser difficult dungeon, it doesnt sound logical to me.

 

 

Are you sure they were the requirements for temple of eluvium and not the highest raid or dungeon?

Because who ever makes these requirements for temple of eluvium (VT) is straight up ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤.

[Arohk]

5 minutes ago, Shekinah said:

Because who ever makes these requirements for temple of eluvium (VT) is straight up ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤.

agreed, most groups i see for VT have it pretty low, like 1.6k or so.

 

VT mech is like this:

Boss 1 = DPS the bosses & block orbs, boss dies before mechanic starts.

Boss 2 = DPS the boss, occasionally knockdown and get into Soul separation if you have the orange debuff. 

Boss 3 = DPS and Stun the Boss when she grabs the tank.

Edited April 21, 2020 by Arohk

[schupunk]

-are you sure they were the requirements for temple of eluvium and not the highest raid or dungeon?

yes, even if i am lucky enough to see someone's eluvium join ads.

 

what is VT? ....eluvium?

 

just about any runs including weekly right after maint,  these similar strings are mostly attached.  who can blame the capable players just want to do fast?

fast run

ap 2000+.. who cares ap1600+, stage 4 armory gives ap1400~1450,

know mech

tiger souls

 

ps : i havent done any dailies and weeklies past 2 weeks, i solely spent my time on looking for temple of eluvium, i think i failed.

Edited April 21, 2020 by schupunk

[Arohk]

24 minutes ago, schupunk said:

just about any runs including weekly right after maint,  these similar strings are mostly attached.  who can blame the capable players just want to do fast?

 

from my experience, people with low HM levels and bad gear are also EXTREMLY SLOW and take ages to get inside the dungeons, i personaly don't care about what gear people have for weeklies because they are really easy. But ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ those slow as snails people drive me mad.

[ImoutoMaster]

vor 11 Minuten schrieb Arohk:

from my experience, people with low HM levels and bad gear are also EXTREMLY SLOW and take ages to get inside the dungeons, i personaly don't care about what gear people have for weeklies because they are really easy. But ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ those slow as snails people drive me mad.

Exactly. People run theese tings over and over again they dont wanna waste time in there cause its not efficient or fun. New players might not understand this cause its still new to them but instead of flaming all theese "elitists" and "whales" as they call them they should try to understand why theese people act as they do and try to statisfy thoose needs.

 

For most people its simply not waiting 2222222 hourse to get out of a weekly dungeon so people can enter the next.

[Cor]

45 minutes ago, schupunk said:

-are you sure they were the requirements for temple of eluvium and not the highest raid or dungeon?

yes, even if i am lucky enough to see someone's eluvium join ads.

 

what is VT? ....eluvium?

 

just about any runs including weekly right after maint,  these similar strings are mostly attached.  who can blame the capable players just want to do fast?

fast run

ap 2000+.. who cares ap1600+, stage 4 armory gives ap1400~1450,

know mech

tiger souls

What nonsense are you writing? Most raids want 1,6k and they usually have people with less, there are also many high geared people taking lower ap people because dps does not matter all they care about is reserving dgs. No one asks to know mechs either, this raid is so dirt easy nowadays most people in the raid can be braindead you can still clear it. Maybe it will be harder now to find a run with people focusing on the new raid but till now it was rather easy to clear vt even for lower ap people if you couldn't find a raid you didn't put enough effort in it.

[JSide]

6 hours ago, ImoutoMaster said:

Exactly. People run theese tings over and over again they dont wanna waste time in there cause its not efficient or fun. New players might not understand this cause its still new to them but instead of flaming all theese "elitists" and "whales" as they call them they should try to understand why theese people act as they do and try to statisfy thoose needs.

 

For most people its simply not waiting 2222222 hourse to get out of a weekly dungeon so people can enter the next.

Wait, are you guys referring to killing speed or loading speed?

 

If it's loading speed, I get the "hurry up" sentiment. But I do sympathize with the slow loaders. I used to be on that side of the fence. Anyway, it's really up the newbie whether they want to run out and grab an SSD just to appease said whale/elitist/whatever.

 

If it's killing speed, well... gearing up normally takes time (armory box event notwithstanding). And the entire point of doing weeklies is getting resources to gear up.

Not much a new player can normally do to significantly speed up that process aside from busting out the Hongmoon Visa.

[Uldrum]

This is the kind of players that i dislike the most, The people who are so out of touch with the current state of the game, that they think VT still need mechanics, Just makes me facepalm. It dosen't hurt to just talk to people.. instead of waiting 10 days before you make a forum thread

 

SK+VT are always done together, they are both super easy unless you invite story/event geared players only.

Edited April 21, 2020 by Uldrum

[schupunk]

-What nonsense are you writing? Most raids want 1,6k and they usually have people with less

1.6k ap is required in the ads, that is the rule, do not expect less, or other players will get confused.  usually less? then do not post the requirement ads, if you are going to do differently behind closed door. if you change the rule in the middle of something, anything will be possible so do not bother telling me about your illogical nonsense,

 

-you couldn't find a raid you didn't put enough effort in it.

obviously you dont play this game or maybe you are a blind, there are hardly any eluvium runs or i can "almost" say "none" after 2 weeks of observation.

 

describe your effort

 

i will define my effort just for you.

i will not start and make any parties for the dungeon that i have never done it before, no matter how desperate i am.

i checked the world chat every 10 min or so for 6 hours a day if someone was making a party while i was watching a movie or playing different computer games with another computer.

 

 

 

[Uldrum]

5 minutes ago, schupunk said:

-What nonsense are you writing? Most raids want 1,6k and they usually have people with less

1.6k ap is required in the ads, that is the rule, do not expect less, or other players will get confused.  usually less? then do not post the requirement ads, if you are going to do differently behind closed door. if you change the rule in the middle of something, anything will be possible so do not bother telling me about your illogical nonsense,

 

-you couldn't find a raid you didn't put enough effort in it.

obviously you dont play this game or maybe you are a blind, there are hardly any eluvium runs or i can "almost" say "none" after 2 weeks of observation.

 

describe your effort

 

i will define my effort just for you.

i will not start and make any parties for the dungeon that i have never done it before, no matter how desperate i am.

i checked the world chat every 10 min or so for 6 hours a day if someone was making a party while i was watching a movie or playing different computer games with another computer.

 

 

 

First of all, you have to be the "Crimson" faction (if you play on the EU region) or Cerulean if you play on the NA region.

 

Took me 10-20 sec to find this

No requirement, just apply.

[Uldrum]

Maby you are just unlucky?

 

Edited April 21, 2020 by Uldrum

[schupunk]

...that they think VT still need mechanics,

this is also a  strange nonsense, if it is that easy these days, why asking for gear requirements?

besides, no matter how easy they might be these days, i have to at least watch mech videos before i can join. it is a courtesy.

 

-It dosen't hurt to just talk to people.. instead o....

go to my 1st post, this is my way of talking to people. sometimes i ask things in the world chat, but doesnt help a lot of times.

if you think wahtever the post is nonsense, then do not respond.

[schupunk]

scion + eluvium package is the ONLY way to finish in these day then so be it.

right now, i have to take a deep breath and look for more mech videos to decide if it is worth

i dont have a clear data as to how often scion + eluvium package without gear requirements were wanted,

it was maybe like 0 ~ 2 a day

[lillvargen]

I've seen the 2k requirement too, the thing is, he gets in high geared people, then switches to undergeared alt and gets carried :-P

[prietess]

Blame the game for very fast upgrades and updates but raids are still there and tbh you can only say you have to speed up really fast if you want  to catch up.

too many things to learn and you just have to submit to it.

Firstly, yes, find a clan for help.

Secondly, if u r lone ranger, you can only hope you have brain to learn everything well and fast.

 

[prietess]

10 hours ago, schupunk said:

...that they think VT still need mechanics,

this is also a  strange nonsense, if it is that easy these days, why asking for gear requirements?

besides, no matter how easy they might be these days, i have to at least watch mech videos before i can join. it is a courtesy.

 

-It dosen't hurt to just talk to people.. instead o....

go to my 1st post, this is my way of talking to people. sometimes i ask things in the world chat, but doesnt help a lot of times.

if you think wahtever the post is nonsense, then do not respond.

Because people want FAST runs and CLEARS.

Those in factions, while some are reliable, many of the people are totally not reliable (no experience, not good at mechs, know nothing even worse)

so people ask for high requirement to fill in the gap so that they get a confirmed clear, or else u will fail and miss the gold and waste time.

[Cor]

21 hours ago, schupunk said:

 

1.6k ap is required in the ads, that is the rule, do not expect less, or other players will get confused.  usually less? then do not post the requirement ads, if you are going to do differently behind closed door. if you change the rule in the middle of something, anything will be possible so do not bother telling me about your illogical nonsense,

That's not my illogical nonsense it's a fact, people take lower than advertised in F8 too if they think the grp has enough dps already.

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obviously you dont play this game or maybe you are a blind, there are hardly any eluvium runs or i can "almost" say "none" after 2 weeks of observation.

Obviously that is true about you because everyone else sees plenty of runs.

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describe your effort

Like open your eyes, look for a run without reqs and apply to it. That's literally the only thing you have to do nowadays to get a vt run.

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i checked the world chat every 10 min or so for 6 hours a day if someone was making a party while i was watching a movie or playing different computer games with another computer.

Maybe ask someone who is not blind to help you find a run idk what else you can do at this point..

21 hours ago, schupunk said:

this is also a  strange nonsense, if it is that easy these days, why asking for gear requirements?

No that's not nonsense it's pretty damn obvious why, because you need enough dps to not do mechanics. That's also true for normal dungeons but apparently you don't play this game so you don't know.

 

 

[Arohk]

maybe he joined the wrong faction and that's why the chat is empty xD

[MassiveEgo]

On 4/21/2020 at 11:22 AM, schupunk said:

most runs right after maint

fast run

ap 2000+

know mech

tiger souls

none of the above applies to my case. except for wacthed enough mech videos

 

if eluvium youtube guide video looked that difficult and gives 50 gold reward, why should i add a more difficut dungeon to deal with a lesser difficult dungeon, it doesnt sound logical to me.

 

 

This is absolute nonsense. I join VTs with my ultra plebby alts that barely have 1.5k and can't hold 350k dps to save their lives. Mechanics are abysmally basic nowadays:
On the sumo guys, two people tank them, everyone else insta grinds down the dummies that spawn, then kill the minibosses;
Next you have the floaty balrok thingies from the glacial basin - dps it down till it's dead;

Next you have Asura. You pick your strongest melee and ranged and appoint them to tank the bosses. Rest of the party just dps and block orbs so the bosses don't enrage;

Next you have the warlock dude - dps down until dead. Kill thralls if you feel like it, not necessary. Assume your assassins/summoners/forcemasters/BMs have enough brain to use their projectile defense skills and stick around them;

Next you have the miniboss with the soldies and lines. Have everyone who has a push/pull skills spec said skills and once the miniboss activates adds, people push or pull them in direction of the boss in order to sever the yellow lines to the soldiers. Cut red lines bybefore you dps into the next phase by going away from boss. Rinse and repeat till it's dead;

Next you have the thrall. This is arguably the easiest boss to deal with - everybody attacks it. Dps until CC bars open. When they open everybody KDs. Three of the players will have a running debuff on them. Those go to the soulspace by looking at the boss after the knockdown. Rest of the party looks away (going to soulspace without the debuff is pointless) at this time. Next cc window opening = stun. If you fail to CC, the boss will do a punishment - if he lifts one hand - it's small circle then big circle. If it's both hands, it's big circle then small circle. If you get hit by it, you get a stack. This is what kills most people here, so look at the hands. You keep alternating CCs with those who have the debuf going in on every knockdown. Do this until boss dies;

Next you have the two giants - stack them on top of each other and dps them down like usual mobs;

Next you get the three acrimors. Basically, get three people to tank them. Dps them down until they die. If you don't have the damage and one jumps to mid, party iframe the explosion it does. They do use flamethrowers and lava puddles in their rotations - avoid standing in either of those as the damage can break your back, even with top tier gear;

Next you have the harpy - do NOT casually waltz around. Coordinate to attack her all at once and dps her down as fast as possible. If you fail to do so, have someone stand 41m away from boss and kill a thrall thingie to zap you out of daze. Dps her down to 0. Doesn't matter who dies at this point;

Next you have the hive queen - tank pulls her towards 10 o'clock. The three strongest ranged dps man the middle circle. Discplaimer - most archers do NOT play the ranged spec.

The only two things you need to know about her basic rotation - when she lifts herself into the air, you need to use a longer iframe, as she'll use two knockbacks one after the other. After those she'll do two swipes towards the tank and then she'll grab him, opening her CC bars. You need to stun or daze her. Doesn't matter which, as long as it's not a knockdown (as not every player is familiar with how she will move depending on what she says upon getting knocked down). The party should have enough IQ in between everybody to coordinare stuns/dazes;

At specific points, she'll go back to mid, stopping the death zone from moving clockwise (don't step into that one. It hurts to the dark realm and back). Then three big spiders will spawn, followed by three groups of small spiders. AoE the small spiders and move next to big spider. Now grind the small spiders down until their red aoes activate. That's it with the spider mech. If you successfully pulled all small spiders and dpsed them down so all the aoes touch the big spider, the big spider will die. While this is happening the queen will keep throwing stingers around. Usually those need to be baited, but you can just face tank them. Jump over any blue concentric circle aoe you see, as those grant you the awesome gift of... more stacks, which will be very painful if you get a lot of them;

After the spider phase is done, tank baits boss to 10 o'clock and you repeat the whole thing until she's defeated. If someone died, you can start ressing them once tank baits the boss. This is all for the "simplified" mechanics in VT.

[schupunk]

i couldnt argue well, because i didnt understand the natute of eluvium, because i havent done eluvium before. you said no mech these days? that is fine, but please stamp the requirement on your forehead "ap2000 3000 4000 whatever" gc+3 +5 +6.... and "i am a 10 second boss killer". but dont get in my way, you are a capable pompous player. it will clearly seperate me from those who just wanna do fast.

 

i was able to do eluvium on a maint day, we had 2 party wipes and 3 boss resets until we got to the final boss. we had 5~6 party wipes with the final boss, 3 players quited, and some players started begging on a world chat,"oh please help us with the final boss", this was disgraceful. but another player also said "we still have 6 hours before reset" i liked this player's mentality. i got killed by 4 jade finger looking beams within 30 sec to 1min 4 times in a row , this was not mentioned in a guide. i was a big burden to the party. but i figured it out to avoid the jade beams. my gunner with the stage 4 armory chest could put out over 2m dps during burst.  this bottom gear gunner helped and we 9 players killed the final boss. i was just grateful that they let me join, i denied loots,  those were for them.

 

with this new event that doesnt involve gears, i lost interest again, means if i dont find party in 30 sec ~ 1 min, you can have it. not even worth a damn, i have quited BnS for past 1.5 years before. i am not addicted anymore.

 

my small secrets

with seraph, bale - i was able to solo upto old cold storage and heaven's mandate bosses

with raven           - i was able to solo upto sogun.

believe it or not, this was more fun to me.

 

after tying up  my loose ends of half finished dailes from the last event.

i will check if i can solo ebondrake citadal with 2 computers. if i can it will be a blast. this will become my new daily.