Moreca Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Today, there is no class like a Tank (paladino L2), buff, healer, etc. I know there is L2 classic (the true L2 and MMORPG).. no easy to level up, to hard to make and to get equipment, you need to party to almost everything, etc... Now you earn equipment easy easy, up easy easy, you do almost everything alone, no tank, no buff, no healer, no support, etc. Serious these people likes one game (mmorpg) easy easy ?? this is not the essence of a true MMORPG... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NueHoujuu Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Attain greater player count from solo players by not requiring certain combinations of parties that also stratify who plays together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teisho Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Because Blade and Soul is not L2, and you need to readjust your expectations if you think that's what it should be. Nobody wants to play excessively grindy Korean MMOs anymore. Especially not ones that come to the West in this day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComatoseBellicose Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 As the person above me said; Player retention. MMORPGs rely on having a community, and the best way to do that is to cast your "demographic net" as far and as wide as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaom Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Let's be honest here , eventhough I loved L2 when it was a thing years ago the grind was just too much . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreca Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, Teisho said: Because Blade and Soul is not L2, and you need to readjust your expectations if you think that's what it should be. Nobody wants to play excessively grindy Korean MMOs anymore. Especially not ones that come to the West in this day and age. they could say: BnS is not a true MMORPG.. said that, I would understand thank for explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreca Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, ComatoseBellicose said: As the person above me said; Player retention. MMORPGs rely on having a community, and the best way to do that is to cast your "demographic net" as far and as wide as possible. where is the tank ? where is the buff ? where is the healer ??? i can bealive it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConstanzaX Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 the genres for ''MMORPGs'' is very broad. For example Runescape is an mmorpg Everquest is an mmorpg even Second Life is considered an mmorpg Maybe the sub-genre you are into is ''Classic'' or if you want to go even further ''Classic Korean Fantasy'' (which is Lineage 2) ''Classic Western Fantasy'' would be World of Warcraft, Everquest, Ultima Online Blade and Soul is considered ''Martial Art Action'' type and it's hard. Trust me. Your equipment becomes very RNG-based when you upgrade it (at least at 50). And 45+ dungeons become impossible with pugs. and sorry I do agree. I hate korean grinds. Impossible to have a life outside them xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreca Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, ConstanzaX said: the genres for ''MMORPGs'' is very broad. For example Runescape is an mmorpg Everquest is an mmorpg even Second Life is considered an mmorpg Maybe the sub-genre you are into is ''Classic'' or if you want to go even further ''Classic Korean Fantasy'' (which is Lineage 2) ''Classic Western Fantasy'' would be World of Warcraft, Everquest, Ultima Online Blade and Soul is considered ''Martial Art Action'' type and it's hard. Trust me. Your equipment becomes very RNG-based when you upgrade it (at least at 50). And 45+ dungeons become impossible with pugs. and sorry I do agree. I hate korean grinds. Impossible to have a life outside them xD don't worry about it ! yes, i like grid, party, tank, buff, healer, etc... I will keep on playing and let' see what it will give.... it easy to up and get everything even... sorry my english.. I'm from Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiuyu Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 32 minutes ago, Teisho said: Because Blade and Soul is not L2, and you need to readjust your expectations if you think that's what it should be. Nobody wants to play excessively grindy Korean MMOs anymore. Especially not ones that come to the West in this day and age. Ironically, that's exactly what Blade and Soul is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConstanzaX Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Just now, Moreca said: don't worry about it ! yes, i like grid, party, tank, buff, healer, etc... I will keep on playing and let' see what it will give.... it easy to up and get everything even... sorry my english.. I'm from Brazil. If you like grind and hardcore MMORPG with Tank, Healer, Etc. I suggest Everquest 1. It's still very popular :) If you want F2P Hardcore there are plenty. Lineage 2 has a new server with no expansions....meaning it's the hardest :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyInfect Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 MMORPG-Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game True MMORPG- Opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreca Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, ConstanzaX said: If you like grind and hardcore MMORPG with Tank, Healer, Etc. I suggest Everquest 1. It's still very popular :) If you want F2P Hardcore there are plenty. Lineage 2 has a new server with no expansions....meaning it's the hardest :) yes, I play also L2 Europe... lvl 86 and one sub 46 but the best l2 is until before Kamael (i think) thank for attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreca Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, DannyInfect said: MMORPG-Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game True MMORPG- Opinion is not RPG... can be MMO, but really RPG ( i disagree) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teisho Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 18 minutes ago, Xiuyu said: Ironically, that's exactly what Blade and Soul is. I don't agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmirror Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 18 minutes ago, ConstanzaX said: If you like grind and hardcore MMORPG with Tank, Healer, Etc. I suggest Everquest 1. It's still very popular :) If you want F2P Hardcore there are plenty. Lineage 2 has a new server with no expansions....meaning it's the hardest :) Especially the Everquest Project 1999 server, the way it was before it tried to modernize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoleintheWall Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Screw grinding when I grind enough in real life as it is!!! Just let me kill and maim people and I'm happy. >:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyInfect Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 31 minutes ago, Moreca said: is not RPG... can be MMO, but really RPG ( i disagree) The game is titled as an "MMORPG" and there is role playing in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorcerer21b Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Because people to day want everything handed to them on a silver platter. It's the age of give to me, because I don't want to work for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haishao Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 BM and KFM can tank and Summoner can heal a whole party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagunaL8 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 maybe cause kids most days have short attention spans >.> you can see very easily on the amount of rage quits you see in pick up group parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiroUmi Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 and there we have the other guy on the other thread saying.....this game is hard when he couldn't clear Mushin Tower :X , HUMAN ARE WEIRD !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asuka Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Moreca said: is not RPG... can be MMO, but really RPG ( i disagree) Presence (or lack thereof) of "holy trinity" doesn't have anything to do with whether a game is rpg or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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