Vinter Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 They said in their twitter handle (@bladeandsoul) that they know their "fix" is bullshit and not working, so they're going to "work on it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoHam Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, hase said: i wonder where did our founder money go They just have to put up a claim on paypal and ncsoft gets pretty forced to either refund or fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poeticintellect Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 you're correct theres no direct incentive for them to buy premium unless its being run by a corrupt GM or tech that gets paid by base sales. which in turn is stable income not having to wait till someone buys from a bot site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kensho1996 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 the whole belief that the bot players must be premium is probably a fallacy and if they are THIS won't be the reason they aren't being blocked/banned bottom line NONE of the other launches of the game had this insane issue with spam and bots so they did something stupid and figured it wouldn't happen (even though IT has happened with every game without safe guards to prevent it here in the west just it is WAY worse this time) I think some of the botters have also found a way to get "below" the world and are using cheats to get to the nodes and such (watched one guy swimming just below the ground one day who then vanished) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hase Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 fun fact: i waited 5 years to play bot blocking simulator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
882260_1452550489 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Team Bloodlust should have chosen a more competent publisher for Blade & Soul, its a great game but its being ruined by an incompetent publisher. NCsoft your lvl 10 chat restriction update has done SQUAT, bot spam is just as strong if not stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladez Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, MangoHam said: They just have to put up a claim on paypal and ncsoft gets pretty forced to either refund or fix it. NCsoft can easily provide proof of such accounts breaking their game policies and botters will loose the money. They can only win such a case if they can proof they were banned without justification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilRed Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 11 hours ago, Perhilion said: They are using proxies and VPN so the IP ban does not work. The NCSoft are actually banning people all the time who use WTFast or have highly dynamic IP for "Suspicious behaviour". That has not slowed down these bots. Proxy use is something that should be getting blocked either at launch screen, or when the hack prevention security starts to run. There are websites and internet security programs that block proxies, so it's not exactly that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poeticintellect Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 age of wushu constantly spams an announcement saying anyone who buys from gold sellers will be perm banned. which should be done here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moucey Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Okay.... 4 hours of maintenance and the biggest improvement is a fail..... stopping the goldspammers didn't work at all and won't work until you (NCsoft) actually grab this bull by the horns and deal with it. Simple stated facts, we can have simple solutions.... like make it impossible for 1 person to repeat the same thing more then twice in any channel. dragon spire should have a repeat of 10 times once a min and after that a cooldown for like 30 min also make a consecutive dungeon run limit so bots can't enter the same one over and over again. Next, a bigger problem is the spammer that doesn't have a char standing there and spamming but direct acces to the chat. I am absolutely no computer tech but, i feel like somehow someone found a backdoor to the servers and is exploiting this, what does this mean for the rest of the data in this server? is this available to the spammers as well ? NC soft my suggestion is: Hire some freelancers to look into this problem it is a 1 time spending, or maybe some people here on the forums can volunteer to address the problem for you, i am sure some tech guys/gals that are playing can do it, NCSOFT REMOVE THE GOLDSPAMMERS/BOTS ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hase Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, Moucey said: Okay.... 4 hours of maintenance and the biggest improvement is a fail..... stopping the goldspammers didn't work at all and won't work until you (NCsoft) actually grab this bull by the horns and deal with it. Simple stated facts, we can have simple solutions.... like make it impossible for 1 person to repeat the same thing more then twice in any channel. dragon spire should have a repeat of 10 times once a min and after that a cooldown for like 30 min also make a consecutive dungeon run limit so bots can't enter the same one over and over again. Next, a bigger problem is the spammer that doesn't have a char standing there and spamming but direct acces to the chat. I am absolutely no computer tech but, i feel like somehow someone found a backdoor to the servers and is exploiting this, what does this mean for the rest of the data in this server? is this available to the spammers as well ? NC soft my suggestion is: Hire some freelancers to look into this problem it is a 1 time spending, or maybe some people here on the forums can volunteer to address the problem for you, i am sure some tech guys/gals that are playing can do it, NCSOFT REMOVE THE GOLDSPAMMERS/BOTS ASAP wont work, why? 1. those bot i saw, after every message, they put a word with 4 letters random generated 2. they change name everyminute and bypass the client, dont even have to create a character to spam => they dont have to pay anything to spam we simply have the most useless publisher and targeted by those most annoying type of bot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkadis Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, hase said: fun fact: i waited 5 years to play bot blocking simulator That and error/queue simulator. ^^) PS: Forget about trying to get NCguys to deal with bots, they never did before and never ever will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poeticintellect Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 well i have a temporary solution that might save a lot of headaches. make new tabs for Normal & clan/ guild chat only an there you go somewhere you can talk. bots doesnt seem to spam normal chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hase Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 i was thinking about Club chat, invite only, like a Clan but with no limit, and only some players was chosen by founder can invite, and only for chatting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowjow Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Why the hell I do I receive a voiced message "failed to block target" and a text saying "subject was not found" when trying to report and block a gold spammer? I know I can create another tab blocking region and faction, but I usually like to talk to people there, so it's been ruining some of my game experience... now, almost no one talks in region/ faction anymore, thanks to these suckers. btw, Gameguard sucks balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walloflesh Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Today was the worst, every single chat channel was spammed by gold sellers. One of them even had a website as their name and when I tried to block them it said I couldn't. I've uninstalled, I will checked back March to see if NCSoft has hired competent staff by then to deal with this issue. I would be very ashamed to be in charge of the NA release and openly let this carry on for so long, dunno how people manage to keep their jobs when they fail at them so hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppy Pie Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 They are not real characters so you cannot block them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowjow Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 What do you mean not real characters? they're just like the voices in my head then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkadis Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jowjow said: What do you mean not real characters? they're just like the voices in my head then? Yeah, constantly chanting "gimme yo monneh, gimme yo monneh, gimme yo monneh, gimme yo monneh, gimme yo monneh, gimme yo monneh, gimme yo monneh" Till they finally succeed at brainwashing you and you give them yo monneh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalseProphet Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I'm 90% sure they're using a pinguin / IRC client to connect to the chat. I'd run some tests but I don't think NC would listen and I don't care enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowjow Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Ah, now I get it. Damn, that's some annoying shit there. I don't even think NC cares enough to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppy Pie Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, Jowjow said: What do you mean not real characters? they're just like the voices in my head then? They use 3rd party services to connect to the chat. Click on their profile a lot of them do not have one since they are not real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkadis Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Know what's funny? The game is out for like 5 years now and it still has ALL of these problems we got now. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowjow Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I think these kind of problems have more to do with NC than with the devs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taleon Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 so seems NC Soft is deleting forum posts about this as well ? had over 73 page thread ( and others ) just up and vanish ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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