Kurokazu Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Is grapple really gone???? I'm starting to panic because I don't see it listed at all... x.x But the other grapple-stance skills are there so I'm hella confused O_ohttps://bnstree.com/skill/KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekonata Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 i guess meteor slam is the only thing left :I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XyiIsm Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Yup, I just checked. Grapple has been completely removed. Can only do meteor slam if we want to grapple. Noticed Shin Kick got moved to 2 now instead of being on 3 with Leg Sweep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paluxy Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 For me was the grapple one of the most important skills at PvP and PvE ............. I really don't understand why they done something like that . :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstabpuss Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Paluxy said: For me was the grapple one of the most important skills at PvP and PvE ............. I really don't understand why they done something like that . :( The grapple was not an OP skill by any means, nor that useful. To mee it seems animations are kinda slower. But might be just an impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totokii Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Well, the grapple heal was kind of nice. If the enemy didnt have a tab, you could heal yourself since they couldnt escape. I just don't like how these changes were kind of snuck in, I suppose? Apparently WL's got a real nasty nerf, but I didn't see any class changes in the patch notes, unless I completely skipped over them. :< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XyiIsm Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I haven't used WL much but I know every build you can't really hybrid anymore. Force Masters took a nasty nerf with some of their moves. One of their powerful ice skills can't be thrown 3 times in succession. I'm still getting used to not being able to have wind and fire for the KFM. Grapple was a good defense breaker for me besides triple kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuchin Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I suspect they removed grapple because ice guard and blue buff have dominated the competitive tournament scene for ages. In PvE it has long since been unused as well, with restraint grabs by BD and DES much preferred. I was keen to use ground grapple in 6v6, but since I knew about this change in advance I did not bother getting used to it. Does anyone have some solid info on which skills were made slower? I have the distinct feeling tiger strike and swift strike have slowed down a lot... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooo Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Hello i didn't play for a while, and i notice KFM as no longer a KD on his Avenging Fist after a block?? And Smite is no usable after it too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DivineSeraphim Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Heard about the expansion came back into the game grabbed my character and after learning what I could about the changes noticed grapple was missing and that's how I discovered this post... Grapple was simply a fun mechanic and a unique one at that and they gutted it and I could've lived with changes in numbers but if the entire mechanic is gone then I guess it was a waste to reinstall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuchin Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 If during their skill streamlining, they had bound it to a different key instead, so that we can use it without having to sacrifice blue buff/ice guard, KFM would have become so overpowered. :D At least the mechanic is still there air to ground, so as a delayer very useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajidourden Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 So I'm also new and saw the videos about KFM, all of them showed ground grappling.....is that not a thing anymore and they're all striking now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDKillerITA Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 It exists only on targets that are airbourne (while you do the first aircombo click tab to grab them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lettuce is Sweet Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 enemy NPC's can still ground grapple you! That's truly unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDKillerITA Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 A couple enemies have old skills availble. For example a npc BM (i think Ebondrake BMs) can use the skill Dive bomb (which doesn't exists anymore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richymon Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I just play the game for fun, never in a competitive way, and grapp was my favorite move of the KFM, now i only use leg sweep just to escape the enemy, really miss grapp avility =´( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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