So either you are on NA or EU and blue. Im from EU and red and dont see any people complaining about how "hard" everything is, at least not regarding F8.
Honestly the opposit is the case, People complaining how things get more and more easy and braindead.
Ok some complain about Hong / Mao but these are solo dungeons not F8, not a raid.
As far as i remember 3 people need to enter Soulseperation and a party consist of 6 players. Guess what, this dude was not the only one who failed, there are at least 4 other people who failed too when only 2 went in Soulseperation.
Nowadays you realy have to try hard to wipe a party, even with "just" decent BT gear LoL
Anyway, im still waiting for a proof of all those imaginary fairytail complains about things are to hard. How about some screenshots (Shift-Windowskey-S) but dont forget to black out names ;)
Wait what? Let me think. When is started the game, every dungen had its mechanic, Hardmode was just the same only with a 4 men party. So you could learn an practice the mechanic in Normal (6 men party) to prepare yourself for Hardmode (4 men party). People helped each other learnign the mech to clear the dungeons.
Suddenly our Normal (6 men party) became hardmode, while the Normal mode was just a dungeon without any mech even close to hardmode mech compared to the new hardmode. NS is a good example, they removed mech from Normalmode not even 2 month after release. People had no chance to learn the mech in normal mode anymore.
TSM Normal nowadays is just a joke and most higher geared players can even solo this dungeon LoL
So its beeing spoiled to request something we had but what was removed with removing the 4 men parties?
Wow, just wow LoL
No cause NC-Soft made player like this with transforming a good game to a braindead hack n' slay game and keep forcing to many upgrade in to less time so even veterans stuggle to keep up without playing 100 alts or selling their kidney / soul to NC-Soft.
That exactly is the problem.
1. the only realy interesting, challanging and enjoiable things left in this game are raids. Everything els in the daily routin is just boring stupid monotone.
2. those who are on the hunt to catch up will have it even more hard and need to spend even more time while those who are quite high in gear will slowly start falling back.
Let me recap
People i start playing with: last one quit last night.
People i started BT with, still playing: 0 (and im talking about the 24 men BT raid)
People i started VT with, still playing: 0, ok a few logging in from time to time but non of them still activly playing
So i think they dont "just" might quit, lots of those veterans already did.
Yeah it is a fact, even there are more players willing to use LFP up to TSM, at least by now, dont know how it will change after patch.
Anyway, why people changed over time, because they are just unsocial and selfish or because NC-Soft forced them to get things faster and faster to keep up to date?
Think about it and tell me again its not at least in larg parts NC_Softs fault when they forced people to be the way they are now by rushing us through the updates and upgrades while constantly reducing the income?