Ren36

While your input is valid, most GMs already left the ship. With no navigator and everyone counting money. Basically people just join ncsoft while looking for a new job.

Ye, cuz these are the options to choose from. PVE is mindless hack n´ slay, with soon to be rng upgrades, while upgrading your gear for the sake of pvp is only worth it if your class has one shot potential, which is one of the reasons why so much layer of gear and now rng is added - so that none notices the imbalance, when two classes face off with max gear, 3rd spec is too strong for competitive reasons and the delay is only a means to keep people hooked. Same with UE4. And so on - nothing in between and nothing is mended. A sorry state for a game, where effort is put into recolouring lootboxes for years to come. Just picking your poison.

UE4 - N.A. // Not certain Upgrade Path - Not worth for PVE // +3 - 2 Stages // Worth for PVP, but not for Class __________ 3rd Spec - Still waiting // Already got it, but worse than my previous ones // All Specs are viable, I change on demand BG - Geared, but even without I one shot // Max Gear to defy Meta // I play objective // bronze abuse // XML Arena - Pls no Sin // I am Sin // 2 Shot // only 1 escape // I have bubbles and Dmg // Wallbang Dungeon - DPS is a mechanic // I only take the best Party Set Up // Buff Classes // 40/40 Raid - I only log once per week // the only thrilling content // my class is not needed Guild - Spam // Last logged in ___________ Publisher - Lootbox // Trove // Costume Box // Trove // Update with Lootbox // Forward Feedback Dev - Change colour of Loot Box // Change Colour of Trove Key to match Season // Recolour Costume // Match colour of Trove Key with Season // Read sales revenue

What you say is a contradiction and underestimation of a game developers and businessman´s strategies in and of itself. If you think that developers don´t already make money from you being online and that they didn´t come up with strats for you to spend tiny amounts regardless of what they throw at you, while losing track between the shifting of your bank account and in-game currency, then you didn´t look into free2play gaming models.

Some will think that I mean NCSoft, but actually the playerbase didn´t change at all. With all the knowledge many before you have provided, valid critics, that have been written, including posting reviews of NC´s own staff, you all are just at a stand still. Even after all that I still see everyone around. Frustrating, especially after being one of those, maybe the only that openly discussed about NCSoft´s & NCWest´s failures since back then. After all this time you all still don´t realize what you can do, and what I write must really sound like mockery to the most of you, but start and boycott these guys. At this point, you all should be more than enough. Make out a date and don´t log in for a week and see how fast they change. "If there are no fishes, there will be no whales" - I said it often enough. If you really want a change, but think that nothing will and do nothing, then stop complaining and wait for UE4. And if you really wanna change something, advertise to friends, discredit whiteknights, start polls, join together on reddit, decide for a date and don´t even log for a week or two. You will lose nothing and only gain your sanity back, be it fps drops, their streams, this imbalance or these event, but if you always wait for people to write and complain, while painting your happy world and basking in the fruits of their efforts later on, then you were part of the problem and the game would have been better without you

Don't expect changes until ue4. And if these changes end up good, are also a different matter. Regarding the topic, dont count on it. Cyan and the whole team do as if they have their hands full, but if they cared for any issues, none would have taken 4years or longer. Whatever they, ncsoft/ncwest, wait for it was definately not your thread. At least I can tell you that. Forum, feedback, any kind of comment is a waste and can be considered a vent. Venting just enough to log back in, just enough to forget to trove again and for some just a breather from wednesdays maintenance and offline time. Ncsoft and ncwest were given enough suggestions and could have counted on a lot of fans to even work for free for them to improve the game, looking at all these xml edits, bnsbuddy and mods. That they dont even accept gifts for free, shows that they see bns only as income. And if a publisher has no joy to play their own game, it will be always poorly handled. Bns is a waste for ncwests hands.

This is no coincidence anymore. A few miscommunications, ok - but the frequency at which they are dished out suggests a motive behind it. You would think that at least during this time, after this disaster of a patch, that they would try to make the least failures, yet it feels like they intentionally try to get rid of people. One is to reduce the amount of players that may put out claims once they take the servers down in the west or two to completely start anew with bns 2.0 and ue4, while claiming for both scenarios that the west as market wasnt investigated enough, while feigning effort to counter the problems till the end.

This borders on intentional, no one right in their mind cuts that deep into their flesh without a motive. And what this motive is should be obvious by now.

The amount of information that is withheld everytime it may act for a bad reputation is laughable. It's not just "server routine maintenance" rewards, hong moon coin and very soon ladder too were reduced or made non-existent. The transperancy with which a multi million dollar company, that considers itself professional, hides changes to delay community backlashes keeps scaling. Instead of informing us about the changes to get the communities' trust back, you ncsoft and ncwest mess up every week. This question is not to be taken as joke, because everything hints at what will come: You intend to close the servers in the west, right?

It's great news, but at this point bns really needs an upgrade for its gameplay. The direction bns goes cannot be covered by better fps anymore. Upgrades, challenge, time, balance, money all of which going to either extreme. Thats not healthy for a game, let alone it's playerbase

Addiction is a wonderful thing. At least for the side that considers the other a plaything. Calling it an abusive relationship would be an understatement, because they even consider their friends enemies, who tell them otherwise. They couldn´t even be reasoned with when they were needed and they are still at it. The train is already past us. Welcome to your new home.

It's even funnier, that no one liked your comment. Guess it's easier to blame others and to be honest, most here writing i havent seen or heard since alpha. Everyone joining now is very welcome, but also pathetic. Most here only argued about frilly costumes and ignored everything else for years. Matters that only affected a part of the population were always buried under the rug, since it didn't affect them, at least in the short run. Now with all these problems stacked, there is literally no way to revert them. We are just too far into it. And with the reputation of bns being so severely damaged, gaining new players is like roulette. If they are lucky they end up with a good class, but almost always the one they didnt want at the end game, if they ever reach and if they will ever stay. This game is no MMO anymore, its a solo RPG and the ones that didn't raise their voice or nodded at everything ncsoft did, are part of this mess. The game went into the direction with the most yes sayers and that were the customers that paid despite everything for years, so good job on that. Impressing people that are no longer there. Lets see how long you can keep yourself afloat in dos meter until you become a fish yourself. If not the server then the gameplay, is long done for. The servers follow afterward.

Some here just want to forget. Building up there happy wall again, with all it´s crack. Yes, they changed, but you yes-sayers did nothing for this change. You stayed silent and just came out of your lurking to thank ncwest, even though you should thank the gamers that wrote up till now. If it was left up to you, nothing would have changed. So please stay silent like back then and let us try do, what gave you this change, you are so thankful for.

The people that write the 1st time, did basically nothing and bask in the fruits. And as I expected people grew tired, even venting at the people that continue, though ncwest & ncsoft were the ones that started it. Thanks is a given, but don´t give the whole hand, forgetting everything. Especially if you never contributed to the discussion and didn´t even raise your voice. With you around nothing would have changed.

Praising for going back to the starting point. And we're still not there yet. Sorry, but if you had any kind intuition for your playbaser, you would be more professional. Giving you any more time is asking for a credit. Better start running into the right direction. Still thanks.