XER0SIGHT Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Keep in mind that this is after the fact I've used Ice Guard and within the 30-sec CD time frame. Not sure if this is intended, but when I get frozen, I'm unable to move my camera to face the FM to counter their spells thus I becoming a punching bag for however longer I'm frozen for. Can anyone advise what to do in a situation like this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecejj Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 When you get frozen you can't move at all, rotating your camera will not mean your body is facing them to counter the attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XER0SIGHT Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Sorry, let me be more clearer. I play using BNS Mode where camera movement is character targeting. I don't mean alt + right click camera movement. Lol - I know moving my camera doesn't do any good in the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udunnome Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 You can't turn the character when it's been frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12345bob Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 You have to save your ss for force masters and knock them down with the kick then follow with a dodge and stunlock You cant waste your escapes as a kfm in order to pvp decently. Watch Wait Counter Stunlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoredAzn Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Lost to a Low Lv Cause the FM just spammed Ice and i couldnt move multiple timez even using my step skill to get out they just did it again and again cant save ur escape skills for all of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shar Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 6 hours ago, XER0SIGHT said: Keep in mind that this is after the fact I've used Ice Guard and within the 30-sec CD time frame. Not sure if this is intended, but when I get frozen, I'm unable to move my camera to face the FM to counter their spells thus I becoming a punching bag for however longer I'm frozen for. Can anyone advise what to do in a situation like this one? Your feet are frozen to the ground, how do you suppose your character can turn and face the enemy? Working as intended, save your SS for that :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaegeo Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 You have to play strategically and as others have said, save your SS and other escapes. Then you stun the crap out of him. But if you aren't (1) blocking his ice bolts, you will get frozen and he will run behind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari-Shadow Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 8 hours ago, XER0SIGHT said: Keep in mind that this is after the fact I've used Ice Guard and within the 30-sec CD time frame. Not sure if this is intended, but when I get frozen, I'm unable to move my camera to face the FM to counter their spells thus I becoming a punching bag for however longer I'm frozen for. Can anyone advise what to do in a situation like this one? No one said that KFM is not weak. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaegeo Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 KFM owns if played smart and strategically, its a very very hard class to beat by any class when in capable hands. There is a reason though that its the hardest class to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukran Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 ehy u posted into my thread about KFM vs FM being frustrating. someone posted the ways FM has to freeze you. give it a read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goukei Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Yeah, I remember my first 2 or 3 games vs force masters and I was hard cc'ed for 90% of the fight with just the freeze. Fact is, when you're frozen in place you cannot move your camera anymore so you're basically hard cc'ed every time you get rooted. After reading through our skill trees a bit there are a few ways to consistently get out of those roots as kfm. Remember though some skills are only available at a certain level and you might not have them unlocked yet. Without those skills it's pretty damn impossible to put up a fight at all. Check the lock to the left of a skill in the Martial Tome (skillbook) to see on what lvl you unlock them if they aren't unlocked yet. Backstep on SS on a 8 second cd. It breaks the root and you can always use Tiger's Pounce on LMB afterwards to do a 6-16m dash with a 2 second knockdown on them which puts you right into their face. Avenging Fist Tier 3 Stage 2 on RMB on a 18 second cd can be used after a successful Counter to do a 16 meter dash that breaks the root and puts you right into their face. So if you're lucky and can get one counter proc to use Avenging fist you can use that, otherwise you're stuck with the 8 second Backstep cd as our main tool to deal with those roots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yongnian Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Stay close to the FM and use your SS, Q, and E to break the roots. Use your knockdowns and stuns to screw with the FM, as they don't have many ways out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XER0SIGHT Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 4 hours ago, Goukei said: Avenging Fist Tier 3 Stage 2 on RMB on a 18 second cd can be used after a successful Counter to do a 16 meter dash that breaks the root and puts you right into their face. This, I did not know! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukran Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 why it happens that my specced avenging fist doesnt move me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nachtdrache Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 49 minutes ago, Shukran said: why it happens that my specced avenging fist doesnt move me? If you mean while frozen, all snares and roots disable charge effects. You have to SS to break snare/root and then you are able to use movement spells again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shukran Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Nachtdrache said: If you mean while frozen, all snares and roots disable charge effects. You have to SS to break snare/root and then you are able to use movement spells again. but it state that - purge immobility - resist dmg and status effects what i misunderstand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nachtdrache Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, Shukran said: but it state that - purge immobility - resist dmg and status effects what i misunderstand? It sure does I'm not actually sure hopefully someone more experienced can tell you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmoe33 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Well one thing to note which u may or may not know is if u see 3 blue things spinning around them on hit u will get instantly frozen, trick is to either get in a few hits before dat happens if u can or stun and start comboes ull need to get in dere face. Trust me im an FM and i get DESTROYED in pvp mainly cause i suck but basically if u get a few comboes off theyll be dead in no time. also block is ur best friend but dont spam it in case of being punished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyFu Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 You can also spec your Ice tab ability so that you can break the roots and clear all stacks of the frost buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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