gewd Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 What are the top Arena classes after everything gets rebalanced on the next update? I keep hearing conflicting information like FM are bad yet a lot of them were in tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zordinary Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Its hard to say whats the top classes since different matchups can be different difficulty, and then another layer of dilution based on player skill and another dilution on points and build strategies etc etc. BUT here are the frequency of classes in the Korean top 100 ladder. Im sorry if its not exact, but these are based on my memory. Blade dancer i believe is the most frequent, then the rest are fairly even out with blade masters, assassins, kungfu masters, then slightly less are destroyers, then less than that are force master and summoners who only had a few people. But also keep in mind that the champion Jaesung or whatever his name is, he won with Force Master. Just to prove that you can really just play anything if you understand your matchups well enough, and react properly and play properly and capitalize on enemy mistakes. FMs and BMs are bad currently because NA's patch isnt up to a balanced point yet. And even up to the balanced point they are still not the crowd favourites, however they at least wont be notably "bad" as ppl are calling them right now. So CURRENTLY, stronger classes are probably anything except FM and BM. Later on in the patches i would imagine they would make all the classes have less of a gap between one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewd Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Here's all the info I could find. http://www.bladeandsouldojo.com/topic/117812-2015-korea-s1-results/ https://www.reddit.com/r/bladeandsoul/comments/42ltnn/here_is_the_top_100_korean_rankings/czbn9gn http://www.bladeandsouldojo.com/topic/147873-what-are-the-best-pvp-classes-right-now-and-in-50-cap/page__view__findpost__p__901035 You can see that 3 FM and 1 kfm won a tournament while there are barely any in the top 100 rankings. And someone claims Jaesung said destroyers and assassins were good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skribble Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 click the link for my post on the top classes in korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewd Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 I cited that information already. People said that win trading obscures the results, and it doesn't match what someone said Jaesung said, that destroyers and assasins are top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukran Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 2015 season 1 torney i quote from other sites: 16 players single elimination class distribution: 3 FM 4 KFM 2 BM 1 WARLOCK 0 SUMMONERS 4 DESTROYERS 0 LBM 2 ASSASSIN if i rememberr correctly final 4 position were warlock 1th fm 2nd assassin ? destro/bm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxefeller Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 14 hours ago, zordinary said: FMs and BMs are bad currently LOL at this comment.. "FMs" in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixystix Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Season 1 Jae won (an FM) then they nerfed SS CD by a lot before season 2, then FM became very low on the totem pole and Jae lost to pretty much everyone in season 2. the results came out to be: 1.)Warlock 2.)BD 3.)Sin 4.)KFM 5.)I think another KFM, or another Warlock. right now it's pretty much warlock, bd, sin at the top as far as class balance in korea goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
848742_1452550186 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Pointless post is pointless. Unless you simply want to know just to know. If you want this information to "pick the best class" or something then you should stop rite now. Korea has level 50 content + a bunch of hongmoon levels. We do not. By the time we get to where Korea is in patches our game will look much different than theirs currently is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxefeller Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 15 hours ago, Pixystix said: Season 1 Jae won (an FM) then they nerfed SS CD by a lot before season 2, then FM became very low on the totem pole and Jae lost to pretty much everyone in season 2. the world championship came out to be: 1.)Warlock 2.)BD 3.)Sin 4.)KFM 5.)I think another KFM, or another Warlock. right now it's pretty much warlock, bd, sin at the top as far as class balance in korea goes. Did you even watch the 2015 World's Championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kutsuu Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Seems pretty well balanced to me. There are samples of all classes in the top 20 other than destroyer, but destroyers are high up in the top 100/500 rankings so it's less that they're bad and more that none of the "superstar" players are using them right now. Despite forcemaster being the least represented in top 100 and top 500, there are 2 FMs in the top 20... so let's not get too carried away trying to claim they're underpowered. Like others have said - it hardly matters how strong classes are when compared to player skill. You can play a "bad" (at 45 cap with no HM levels) FM/BM to 2100+ rating with the requisite skill. Top 500 Descending Percentage of total Kung Fu Master 19.4% Assassin 16.6% Destroyer 14.6% Warlock 12.6% Blade Master 11% Blade Dancer 10.8% Summoner 9.6% Forcemaster 5.4% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixystix Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 6 hours ago, Roxefeller said: Did you even watch the 2015 World's Championship? Season 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxefeller Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Pixystix said: Season 2. GG @ me x.x lol FM isn't so low on the totem pole anymore though as they were represented among the final group in the latest World Tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooks Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Saying FM isn't low on the totem pole because two of the best FM's in the world made it to semis and finals is a pretty big misrepresentation of the overall meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flareon Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 finals was BD and BM IIRC IIRC on their leader boards the most represented are BM Assassin BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tupan Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Some classes are just more harder to master and without option to screw abit(unless the other screw too)- there is no O nyerk button to save the day.And the said classes are more fun and rewarding in PVP. I play FM - they can nerf it to the ground all I care - I`ll still have my fun.Will it be cool? Well not really,but will it demotivate me? Quite the oposit.WE have in EU FM's on Plat/Diamond rank.I just make it to 1850 ELO with 70% win rate.Tommorow I`ll take the fancy icon.Not much time unfortunately for people like me working 5-6 shifts x12 from which often night shifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixystix Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 On 2/5/2016 at 4:30 PM, Roxefeller said: GG @ me x.x lol FM isn't so low on the totem pole anymore though as they were represented among the final group in the latest World Tournament. The world championship only takes 4 classes from each country, it took 2 FM's because they believe their country's 4 best players are 2 people who play that class. Everyone in the tournament got knocked out by Korean players, even the Koreans themselves. Since Koreans are much much better than the rest of the world there is no point at looking at the world championships to determine what classes are in the top meta, you look to the Korean seasonal tournaments. In the last of these tournaments the winner was a warlock, second place was a BD, third place was an assassin, fourth was a KFM, fifth and sixth were warlocks or KFMs, I can't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justsomeone Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 On 04/02/2016 at 5:16 PM, Roxefeller said: LOL at this comment.. "FMs" in particular. "FM isn't bad because a higher skilled player than others played it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxefeller Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Justsomeone said: "FM isn't bad because a higher skilled player than others played it" This game comes down to skill. Plain and simple. Practice and get better or don't practice and be stuck where you're at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbblade Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I tend to believe the top 20 in general is just because the players that are sitting there are really gifted players that whichever class they'd end up playing, they'd have the same result. I was watching a korean stream yesterday and he says that the current tier as it is is. 1) Destroyer 2) Assassin 3) LBD 4 ) Blademaster 5) everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukran Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 6 minutes ago, Pbblade said: I tend to believe the top 20 in general is just because the players that are sitting there are really gifted players that whichever class they'd end up playing, they'd have the same result. I was watching a korean stream yesterday and he says that the current tier as it is is. 1) Destroyer 2) Assassin 3) LBD 4 ) Blademaster 5) everything else. u have to take in consideration that those gifted players played the game hardcore in the last 4 years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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