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The wheel event was pretty fun, honestly. I got my chance to revenge on all the gankers who bullied me in the cinderlands. I don't have much faith in the NEO version: whatever this company does is half-baked, but I guess if they remove my barely functional 3rd spec and RNG, it'll already be enough for me to actually try the classic server. A good opportunity to re-launch the game? Definitely, if they change their approach to making PC games, which I doubt they ever will at this point.

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The game needs bigger population for pvp to be alive. How does the game get more players when it's already lost so many because of stupid game management? Looking at their new Throne and Liberty, it just seems to me they've completely lost the ability to make good games. Won't be surprised if it will just be BnS 2 but in a different wrapper. Since we aren't getting new players and proper game management, maybe they can fix the colors? What happened to the UE3 colors? Sometimes the palette shows one color but the actual color applied to the outfit is different (e.g. palette shows gold but dark red is applied?!?!). Fix them pls, I want to tailor my outfits.

"Lost 2 days of playing. Wasted 2 days of premium.". If only I had your life issues, man...

Ye, I did not mean F10. I was just referring to your previous post about having a vendor with time based gear.

Good point. I've been farming since Ascendant weapon times and I got so used to it that I did not even mind the whales. I'd been fighting whales for years but now I can't anymore. What if...instead of suffering in 6v6 I could just buy the gear? It'd free me from all the troubles and bring more players into 6v6. This would probably be a better solution if only NCSoft did not give up on the pvp part of the game. Now it's kinda late to take any action but if someday they launch a classic server and it succeeds, this might be the way to go. I'd still insist on disabling unity, compound and other systems though if such systems are present on the classic server.

Or just introduce dedicated pvp gear which would also include soul, pet, talisman and heart. You CANNOT p2w this gear and you have to actually play pvp to get it (maybe a bit of pve too depending on player feedback if such change is to be made). Change 6v6 and clan battle rules so that the lvl entry requirement is 60 HM 7 but players' levels would be equalized to HM25/30 (again, depends on what people would vote for). Disable unity, compound, insignias and all the other bs systems that make your character stats go through the roof. My problem is that any half-brained ape can sit for hours opening trove and have his Realmkeeper ST9 on the same day of its release AND without having to play a single 6v6 match. But, but, people on reddit keep telling me it's not p2w, it's p2progress! It does not matter anyway. They'd rather CTRL C + CTRL V a new tier of gear and make more p2w systems. I won't be surprised if I login in year 2023 and will see people having 5x more stats, 10x more hp and 20x more AP.

Neither do I. The release of certain broken 3rd specs was pretty much the end of it. I still stayed till the end even after losing all hope when they gave me a pile of crap instead of a proper 3rd spec BD. They have not been doing anything to improve pvp. So many years later we still can't get more balanced game modes and a proper clan battle system. What a waste. It's ironic how they went down pve route with BnS and now Lost Ark's pvp is thriving and blooming. Expecting NCSoft to actually take care of their BnS PC title is like expecting the creators of PUBG to remake the whole game from scratch (which they could have easily done ages ago). As long as BnS in their hands, it will stay a milking machine for its shrinking playerbase till its death.

It's too late for that. Just accept its death and move on.

I see people having 200k gold to spend on mythical accs. I only have 2000 gold right now. This stuff is whale-exclusive anyway. It's not like I will ever go higher than +7 as F2P player. Why are you complaining about gold income if you just swipe left and right all the time. Just...buy more gold? Actually, I have a better idea. Just farm aerodrome on 20 accounts instead of 1 for the copper. You are all botting it 24/7 anyway.

You need to understand that it was NCSoft who gave people the ability to turn HM Coins into gold by selling unlimited gem powder in the cash shop. Hence, more people would use cheats to get as many venture tokens as possible. I know you are gonna ask how people are supposed to upgrade gems if they can't get gem powder from the store but it's a completely different topic about gem progression system and gems altogether. You are partly right though, if the cheaters had more social responsibility and did not cheat, we would still have venture tokens and somewhat active 6v6. I don't mind anti-cheat as long as it removes a good chunk of cheaters from my games. If the players and NCWest wree to actually to work together to ban cheaters, NCWest would need to give us some guidelines on how to properly provide evidence. E.g., would we need to provide just the video or provide the video with timestamps and comments telling where and when The Suspect was seen cheating? We also need equal treatment from the support. Whales should not have immunity against being banned. We all know that even if at this point NCWest would start banning cheaters, they would not ban the cheating whales. Exactly. The publisher that would KNOW what to do with a game like this. The publisher that is run by gamers. Why do you think Valorant and LoL are so successful? I don't even mind a bit of p2w but only when you actually care about the playerbase and well-being of the game. Finally, someone, who actually pointed it out. When I tell people on reddit about how p2w 6v6 has become, they downvote me and just tell me to play the game to get to the gear levels that 6v6 whales have. Even if I had the time for that, it would still be a 10 hour grind each day. Can you still play 6v6 as a F2P player? Yes, but it's getting harder and harder and the struggle has become too much for me. Getting gold in 6v6 requires either super gear or a lot of luck. Getting 1400 in 6v6 requires a bit of luck, a bit of brain and a bit of skill. You don't need to be a cheater to get good amout of venture tokens from season rewards. Getting gold in 1v1 for the extra tokens was just a matter of being careful with the queue for me. If there were any sins or archers, I would not queue on that day.

People do use them in 6v6. Howerver, from my experience, the only people using them are gunners, kfms and sins because they don't know what to do if they miss their one shot. The sins are especially funny. I've seen them using it after realizing their minetoss did not one shot, so their best idea was to just use reset charm and minetoss again. Or, even better, that one sin who failed to approach and kd to instagib me in his 3rd spec using the charm to reset his approach and kd skills. He just did not know he could press other buttons too.

What's the point of torturing NCWest and us if every patch since UE4 has been broken in one way or another. If you can't organize our region/don't want to invest anything in it then maybe just don't bother? I'm surprised there are still people working at NCWest after receiving so many turds instead of proper patches. The temper and resilience these guys have... To add icing to this shitcake, I like how the patch notes still don't have any information on the skill changes. "Full details will be available later". Let me guess, KR did not even tell them what the changes are? I guess they'd rather invest in BnS 3 for your toaster and calculator.

Elaborate on this, please. Are you saying that those 99% are cheaters who are now unhappy because they can no longer get HM Coins by cheating? If so, then I'm sick of people putting me and other legit players in the same basket with cheaters. Also, where do people pull these numbers from (95%, 99%...), out of their ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤?

I have not been using any 3rd party launchers since UE4. I am also playing on a 100% clean client. I feel punished because now I don't have any reason to play the game; can't get HM Coins, can't afford NCoins. According to your logic, every single person being punished was a 100% cheater. Think better before opening your mouth next time. I might be really wrong and I don't like the guy you are talking about either but let me say this. You sound like one of those autistic german whales who tell me to just play the game to get to their giga-whale gear tiers. The sad reality is it does not matter how much I grind because I will always die in 1-2 hits to any maxed giga-whale. We, F2P players, simply cannot compete anymore in 6v6. The dudes, who call me trash because of my gear, don't know what it's like to play on F2P account. I've been watching them for years and they've always been spending. These narrow-minded pricks just don't see anything behind their mountains of gear. Does it mean I should not try to improve my gear? No. However, 6v6 will still be too p2w for us to enjoy.

I would play pvp for fun if they actually had balanced 6v6 and balanced classes. They don't and that's why pvp in this game is garbage (it's been getting worse and worse to the point where it's no longer fun). I play it for the rewards and not for fun. My friends, who played this game for pvp, have quit. The only friend, who'd still duo 6v6 with me now does not care either because he's sick of giga-whales. Inting happens in all competitive games and people would still int even if there were no more HM Coins. Killing the game to avoid rating loss is a problem exclusive to BnS (better games don't have it) and not always because people want HM Coins; they'd do it purely for rating too. Wintrading can also be done just for rating; it's no mystery to anyone that certain people would wintrade just to get to plat. Also, why did you assume that I expected the anti-cheat to solve every single problem?

Removing HM coins completely would be like punishing everyone just because some anti-social people decide to cheat. It's not our fault that the company does not care to give us better anti-cheat measures that are present in other mmos. It's not our fault that some people don't have the social responsbility and ruin other people's games. It's not our fault that the game has been in this state for years and nothing was done to fix it; it's just worse now because NCWest does not care about banning anyone. I know it's for the greater good and if it's a temporary measure till they find another solution to cheating, I'm fine with it. If they are to remove HM Coins from season rewards forever, then I might as well move to RU because I can't afford to buy NCoins with my worthless currency. I know it's selfish but I don't want to get punished for what I did not do even if remoining hm coins would benefit pvp enthusiasts.

Maybe they don't ban. But it's really fun when GMs change your name because some whales reported you and when you ask the GM why exactly is this name offensive or how it breaks the rules they just say they don't have to explain anything. Following this logic any GM can change anyone's name if some whale wants to, even if the name is *asdfsdf* because they aren't obliged to tell you how it breaks the rules. However, when you report them for speedhacking in front of you with a video, they don't even give them a warning. I guess some are just more equal than others when it comes to support.

Fighting 3rd party launchers is like fighting companies that create and sell cheats. There will always be other/new 3rd party launchers and companies that make cheats. Besides, people will probably find ways to cheat without using multitool. We need another solution for this. What's the solution? I don't know, but maybe one that already exists in other, better mmos. People are suggesting to ban everyone who did not log in using NC Launcher. I think that's too extreme. I understand why some people still use 3rd party launchers. The game is notorious for needing fixes that would make it playable. When it was still on UE3, I had to use BnSBuddy because it let me disable premium effects which would make me crash in 6v6. If it was not for BnSBuddy, I would not bother to play the game. This problem has been fixed with UE4 so I don't need to use anything other than NC Launcher. I don't know if people still need such fixes to make the game playable on UE4 but if you are to ban everyone who does not log in via NC Launcher, there's no guarantee that you are only banning people that used it for cheating/gaining advantage over other players. I know it's a meme, but Valve's VAC, despite being a useless outdated anti-cheat, has a good core idea. It's supposed to make sure that the person banned was 100% cheating (at least that's how I think it works). We need a similar approach: only ban people who have evidence beyond reasonable doubt against them. Like Cupidstar suggested, server-side validation should be enough, no? Botting Eva belongs to the same category imo; it's not any different from aimbotting, spinbotting etc. It's a bot doing work for you. I don't think our endless forum threads asking to ban cheaters will make any difference. The company killed the game, lost its playerbase and now can't afford to properly support our regions. We are left to our own devices here...

I've been thinking about our server quality for a while now. I've always wondered why on day X I have more fps and better ping and on day Y I have less fps and worse ping and we don't even have many players. I also heard that koldrak does not lag like this in korea. Could all this koldrak lag and ping/fps instability be due to the crappy (if it is) server we have or is it just our client that's messed up? I just have this paranoidal feeling that we have the worst server they could get because of how worthelss our region is XD. This is also somthing that I've always wanted to know. UE3 1v1 was absolutely unplayable for me. After playing 3-4 matches the game would start freezing on using certain skills. I mean, not micro-freezes but a good 1 second freeze on each skill use. It's got better since UE4 but the problem is still there. People say it's due to memory leak. Is it so? If it is, does it need lots of work to fix? It just seems odd to me that they'd rather create stupid challenges from Squid Game instead of working on the real problems the game has.

We, players, are the ultimate hivemind for suggestions. We've had so many suggestions to improve things but who'd listen to us. As for me, I'd add add a 3 second countdown before the 1v1 match starts and lock them in combat for the entire duration of the match. I think it's unfair how some classes clearly have much better openers, while others, like KFM, struggle. I've seen so many kfms having to waste their ice just to stop me from windwalking. Wallbanging should not be a thing either but if you look at trial arena Force Masters, they throw you against the wall and wallbang you to death. That's how the devs progammed them; I guess removing wallbang would require a class rework. The newest class, dual blade, does a similar thing. They just knock you back forever so you can't tab or wallbang you like FM. This makes me think they've completely given up on trying to make classes work in pvp. Maybe they've given up since warden. I feel like we have too many specs now and it's getting harder and harder to balance them. However, what they can do is to not make them broken. 3rd spec sin is not strong. It's not OP. It's broken. I have mixed opinions about 3rd specs. I don't feel like we needed them. The game did just fine with 2 specs. But I understand that some people really enjoy them and I have seen people rerolling to another class because it had a cool 3rd spec. I don't like 3rd specs because I hate mine and I get upset when I see other classes being absolutely broken because of it. I gave up on 6v6. There is just too much stuff, too much gear that F2P players don't bother with. I just get depressed when I see dudes having 2x more AP, 2X more defense, 1.5x more hp, 3x more crit defense, etc...If I were to make some changes, I'd start by adding all the pvp accs to the bg trader. I don't mind paying 25k battle points and 200 moonstones for it. He already sells gloves and bracelet, so why not add the rest? I'd also introduce balanced 6v6 and experiement with it (maybe the stats from 1v1 would not exactly work there) but I feel like we just don't have enough players interested in pvp to play it and give feedback. They can encourage players to play pvp by adding 2 vials/week to the trader. Like, winning/participating/weekly pvp quests give you a currency that you can exchange for vials. I don't know if this would actually work but I'm just one person out of many who can come up with suggestions. Other than that I don't care, I only play pvp for season rewards, not for fun. I'm ranting but I don't really know what else to do. People have already suggested all kinds of solutions for the problems we have but no one cares about us.

People were getting sick of broken 3rd specs. Force master has a 6 second godmode and blade dancer has a half-working static summon. If you are making OP specs, either give them to everyone or don't give them to anyone. People were getting angry at the huge gear gap between F2P and P2W, oh sorry, it's pAy To PrOgGrEsS. People had had enough of being called a mentally disabled trash alt because they could not catch up to whale tiers F2P way. People were getting annoyed at having to farm pve dungeons for pvp accs. Just remove the ability to swap them to pve and add them to the bg trader for 25k points or smth. People gave up on 1v1 when every trash sin or destroyer would get to plat solely because of their broken 3rd spec. People lost hope on getting improvements such as a simple 3 second countdown timer before 1v1 match start when the participants have loaded in. People were hoping for an actual balanced 6v6 but all we got was a one button fiesta even with all the dmg reduction and skill dmg modifiers for pvp. We have so much gear now that all this dmg reduction and modifers are useless. It seems to be that whoever is responsible for leading the game in this direction has little idea of what to actually do with a game like this. Follow the trends instead of working on what the game is good at. It went from one of the most spectacular fighting games to a soulless generic pve grinder. We have bdo for grinding. What made them think they could compete with better grind-simulator mmos? Hence, low playerbase even after UE4 and dead pvp.

First time actually replying to a forum thread. I'm getting sick of it too, honestly. There are all kinds of cheaters in 6v6 now. People floating in air pewpewing from above, like gunner. People teleporting all over the place or speedhacking at the speed of light. People elevating themselves to enemy spawn base. People quitting 1v1 repeatedly before the match even starts. People spamming skills with no cooldown and so on. At this point it feels like everyone is using some kind of cheat. I see people speedhacking even in aerodrome...