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Easy, just run away whenever FM is in sheath, wait for CDs and try again. FM's sheaths are literally inconsequential to Archer. It's also crazy hard to even catch Archer in the first place as the only time you're ever able to hit it is when they won't be target-able (as in if they're not spamming iframes, they're too far away to hit). Worse yet is that the FM is no longer a threat to the Archer in that case, but the Archer is still a threat to the FM, as it has skills that can reach you from all the way on the other side of the arena. Archers also have crazy AoEs of their own that FM has to get through and work around, one of them being an iframe. Let's also not forget that airborne btw, where you can literally knock half off your opponent's HP out instantly and they're helpless to do anything about it. But perhaps Archer is just situational and the only Archers I've played against were actually good or something (doubtful but possible). Regardless of semantics both our opinions are rooted at a core issue: NCsoft doesn't know how to balance $h!T

The real irony here is that in real life people go on about how it's a miracle that human females even have breasts in the first place, while also stating that the disadvantages of having breasts would make it so that human females wouldn't be able to survive out in the wilderness, especially if they're large chested. Often they say that it'll slow them down too much and that they'd hardly be able to outrun any predators because of it, not to mention that it would impede their acrobatics and motion of their arms. All of which is utter BS as ancient women would probably be a lot more physically fit than our average woman today, just like how ancient men would be more fit than most men today. The argument over large and small chests is completely null and void for the simple fact that the problem with the average woman today isn't as physically fit as in the past, thus most all predictions are basically mute. But yes, Lyn are just an excuse for lolita crap, and for religiously chanting the demonstrably false phrase: "small superior" or the divisive phrase "flat is justice" (which is also kinda false).

Archer is just an upgraded GS. Their play style revolves around running away and not fighting while waiting for their CDs to reset, then charging in to do some damage which most classes can't avoid, and repeat. Worse yet, they have a skill that can basically half your health from anywhere as long as they're looking at you in one build, and have two skills that can insta gib you in another. Oh and did I mention their base damage is insane, and it's not counted as projectile when going through Divine Veil? Congratz, another FM hard counter, just what we needed. Agree with it or not, you have to admit that a class that heals and stealths that can dish out so much damage and avoid the fight altogether is something has to be dealt with. The real shame is that it'll have to be a hot fix, rather than them getting it right from the first time.....AGAIN!

Yes. I'm sick of waiting in the arena for hours just for some guy in plat to hop onto his alt and farm me out of gold because he got bored, thus convincing me that this game isn't worth my time, and get me to stop trying, thus someone else who would've been matched against me, ends up in the same spot.

I'd actually put FM thoroughly in the mid to trash tier. Unless you somehow manage a miracle and have enough ping for a full 100-0, you're going to have a rough time.

Don't forget their iframes make them untargetable, just like flashstep.

Remove the new stationary shield from Des. They literally heal fast when you get behind them and start doing damage to them, and they're immune to CCs throughout the whole duration of it. A des can literally sit in there and heal back to full, regardless of whether or not you're hitting them. It's stupid and completely unbalanced by all means.

So I noticed that matches as Warden are surprisingly enough, difficult. Everyone seemed to got a buff, even FM and SF if you squint hard enough, but Warden appears to be the only class that can be said to have been nerfed. Classes like BM on the other hand, or so ridiculously OP that they probably could've beaten WR prepatch. But BM isn't the topic for today. I want to know, is Warden the new bottom/low tier, or is it still broken?

So, apparently my constant harping about how broken BM is will now finally be taken seriously? Because giving a class like BM a second escape, and untargetables for their Q/E and backstep and the most insane and braindead damage ever (which they already had) while removing block disable as a mechanic in the game, meaning our only way to get past their defense is through carefully timed tech chases and sneaking behind them (perfectly behind them). GJ NCsoft, you somehow managed to make the most cancerous garbage invented in videogame history, and make it even worse.

Here's a simple thing to summarize western culture and its attitude to mature content: Boobs are evil and must be cut off of every woman to "liberate" them. But literally splitting a man in two and showing the split halves fly past you in slow motion so you can see their insides: perfectly acceptable.

Ya but it's the only legit form of PVP there is in BnS. Everything else is garbage.

Nope, just 3. The top 10 slots are filled with the same 3 guys.

If they tell you FM is broken or not weak, they're not pros. No pro I have spoke with has told me that FM is just fine now.

From what I can tell from FM PVP in my time playing it, and as someone who's reached the 6-10 and even top 5 brackets (and not at beginning of season), I can say with full certainty that FM is absolute garbage now. Good luck actually getting that 100-0 wall combo off, let alone mastering it (unless your name is Forsynthia, Darken, Taylord, or Antrax). The counter intuitive nature of the new build is going to render it impossible for most players to ever get that full combo off, let alone survive long enough to get it with all the buffs that broken classes such as BM (yes, I will never drop my belief that BM is broken, especially now) have received this patch. Give us back our air combo, remove the cast time from Frost Tornado, and move Frost Burst, and Tornado from fire stance, to ice, and move Heatwave and the Ice Ring from Ice stance to Fire. This way, the abilities used in the 100-0 wallbang are all in one stance, and the skills that people are used to being in Frost and Fire stance, are returned to their proper slots.

Traitor. The new FM sucks. Pro players from across all regions have told it's bad now.

So how's your experience with the class in PVP? Because I'm hearing completely different stories from what I'm seeing of Warden. People are saying it's an easy plat class, but honestly it could be a number of things that's getting people playing them to plat. Personal experience tells me that Warden is bugged and needs patching since half its CCs don't apply, its skills take too long to cast, and on top of that Blade Ward is an inconsistent buff.

@Liinxy Thank you for linking these in the public forums. Great to see the community manager making such useful information available.