BOTS, BOTS AND BOTS !!

[Wolfveleon]

Well i so impressed now how u proud and support with this multibox and bots.

This 2 *cricket* things are part of the reason why we always play lag game in NA and SEA.

Also main reason why other need to queue for hour just to get in here.

This is the main reason why japan actively ban any other country ip when they try to get in their server

especially from NA,SEA and China.

[MuadDib]

5 hours ago, Ninfu said:

Im gonna say this now and i dont mean that they're not bots or anything but its completely plausible that someone is just multiboxing which is NOT BOTTING

ROTFLMAO 

 

Dude, please spend some time and learn the difference between bots and multiboxing. It is physically IMPOSSIBLE for you to multibox, and have 2 chars follow/perform the exact same actions within 0.1 second of each other.

 

They are bots.

 

Go ahead, prove me wrong.

[SasamiMasaki]

5 minutes ago, Ninfu said:

 

Yup its true theres bots and ncsoft does what they want with them. Been trying to explain these ppl that there are those are legit players just doing multiboxing for fun which is in my opinion just fine

ANd now we know the real reasoning why he wants to draw his 'distinction' between the two various forms of cheating.  He thinks it's 'legit'.  

No..no it isn't.

[Yushiro]

2 minutes ago, SasamiMasaki said:

ANd now we know the real reasoning why he wants to draw his 'distinction' between the two various forms of cheating.  He thinks it's 'legit'.  

No..no it isn't.

 

Exactly, the only reason why WOW allows it, is because it's subscription based, why would they deny extra income lol. It's all symentics, both are botting. NCSoft already made a stand on it, Unless a human is controlling it then it is illegal.

[Monoe]

3 minutes ago, Ninfu said:

 

those are legit players just doing multiboxing for fun which is in my opinion just fine

Normally, I'd open two clients (if it's allowed) for games that heavily relies on buffs, or if there's a marriage/lover system where you'll get certain benefits by doing stuffs together. But for game like BnS, I don't see any reason for it. 

[Ninfu]

7 minutes ago, MuadDib said:

ROTFLMAO 

 

Dude, please spend some time and learn the difference between bots and multiboxing. It is physically IMPOSSIBLE for you to multibox, and have 2 chars follow/perform the exact same actions within 0.1 second of each other.

 

They are bots.

 

Go ahead, prove me wrong.

 

You do realise bots are players who are not controled by humans. Computers control them

Multiboxing software allows human player to control several accounts at the same time while pressing commands from one keyboard. This is not botting. Its nothing more than just 3rd party software. If computer controls everything then it becomes botting but if human is in control then its just multiboxing

 

[MENT]

seriosly make this game 5$/account cost, this for sure will stop all of them..

[Ninfu]

1 minute ago, MENT said:

seriosly make this game 5$/account cost, this for sure will stop all of them..

That wont stop anything. Having f2p or b2p wont stop botting / multiboxing / hacking and so on. It might reduce it bit but they will always be around

[Drklf]

Bots = Automatic software that plays your character for you
Multibox = Third party software that sends YOUR MANUAL commands to multiple windows.

Botting = Not legit
Multiboxing = Legit unless the company says it isn't.

 

The video on the OP is people multiboxing, not botting. Seriously, if you don't know what you're talking about, don't talk at all. You're just making yourself look VERY stupid.

[Wolfveleon]

Its nothing more than just 3rd party software.

 

nice one for just a 3rd party software. *clap clap clap*

[MENT]

1 minute ago, Ninfu said:

That wont stop anything. Having f2p or b2p wont stop botting / multiboxing / hacking and so on. It might reduce it bit but they will always be around

 

this will stop gold sellers from recreating everysec account.

bots and hacks will be but from normal players, this is never can be stopped.

[Ninfu]

Just now, MENT said:

 

this will stop gold sellers from recreating everysec account.

bots and hacks will be but from normal players, this is never can be stopped.

Nope they wont stop. Go check FFXIV or WoW both sub based and theres more than enough gold spammers around

[MENT]

1 minute ago, Ninfu said:

Nope theywont stop. Go check FFXIV or WoW both sub based and theres more than enough gold spammers around

 

i played wow for years, saw so few  gold sellers...

[Wolfveleon]

nothing much can change for bots in any mmo, unless people change the attitude which hardly happen.

[SasamiMasaki]

8 minutes ago, Ninfu said:

 

You do realise bots are players who are not controled by humans. Computers control them

Multiboxing software allows human player to control several accounts at the same time while pressing commands from one keyboard. This is not botting. Its nothing more than just 3rd party software. If computer controls everything then it becomes botting but if human is in control then its just multiboxing

 

He still doesn't get it.  To do what he describes (especially in this game) requires AUTOMATION BY THIRD PARTY software to do.  This means they are BOTS whether controlled by one keyboard or not, because they are multiple characters in which the control process is AUTOMATED and assisted by ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE.

Were it a person who basically logged onto more than one computer and divided his / her time between imputing at each, then that might be 'just multiboxing'.  But as he describes it, the process is BOTTING, whether 'multiboxing' or no.

[Dradiinmmo]

Hmm at the end of the day it really does not matter if it is bots or multiboxing. Either one is cheating in the eyes of NCsoft as there are no third party programs allowed in the game.

 

On a side note, to the asshat who claims that a MMO mouse is a form of cheating, i take issue with that because if you go watch the last live stream with the developers they talk about how they are working with Razer and how cool the Chroma software is when it interacts with the game. When you encounter a boos it lights up in a certain way or when the game starts up a pattern is formed on the Razer Keyboard.

 

Clearly the devs intend to support MMO mice and other peripherals, your attempt to paint players who use these devices in a negative light is patently wrong. Also if we went along with your line of thinking, all controllers would fall into that category, i can tell you there would be quite a few upset players who use x-box controllers in the game. 

[Wolfveleon]

 

 

I guess multiboxer will have this kinda feel when they multiboxing eh?

Even garrod asking from tifa act as 3rd party program to support him.

[Drklf]

3 minutes ago, SasamiMasaki said:

He still doesn't get it.  To do what he describes (especially in this game) requires AUTOMATION THIRD PARTY software to do.  This means they are BOTS whether controlled by one keyboard or not, because they are multiple characters in which the control process is AUTOMATED and assisted by ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE, making them BOTS.

Were it a person who basically logged onto more than one computer and divided his / her time between imputing at each, then that might be 'just multiboxing'.  But as he describes it, the process is BOTTING, whether 'multiboxing' or no.

Are people here actually this stupid or are you just trolling? Third party software doesn't automatically mean it's a bot. Multiboxing software sends your manual commands to multiple windows, nothing is automated. You press W and the character on multiple clients move forward. You press A and your character on multiple clients strafe left. If it was a bot, you would press start on a software and watch as your characters moved automatically doing stuff for you, such as farming mobs for gold.. If you can't understand the difference I'd suggest you to stick to games like tetris or pacman. =)

[Yui]

3 minutes ago, Drklf said:

Bots = Automatic software that plays your character for you
Multibox = Third party software that sends YOUR MANUAL commands to multiple windows.

Botting = Not legit
Multiboxing = Legit unless the company says it isn't.

 

The video on the OP is people multiboxing, not botting. Seriously, if you don't know what you're talking about, don't talk at all. You're just making yourself look VERY stupid.

You don't seem to understand what automate means. There is no such thing as Multiboxing software. Multi boxing is the act of having multiple computers running a game at the same time and playing both(or switching between windows of a game and controlling them individually). using third party tools to remotely control multiple accounts at once, is a bot, getting 20 accounts to follow you around and mimic your inputs is a bot. It is not being controlled by a human but a piece of software that just copies you. If you can't understand what automation even is then you have absolutely no right to call others stupid. Bot's are controlled by programs, when any program is controlling an account it is a bot, even if the bot just copies you... that doesn't change that the account is being controlled by a piece of software.

[Dradiinmmo]

2 minutes ago, Drklf said:

Are people here actually this stupid or are you just trolling? Third party software doesn't automatically mean it's a bot. Multiboxing software sends your manual commands to multiple windows, nothing is automated. You press W and the character on multiple clients move forward. You press A and your character on multiple clients strafe left. If it was a bot, you would press start on a software and watch as your characters moved automatically doing stuff for you, such as farming mobs for gold.. If you can't understand the difference I'd suggest you to stick to games like tetris or pacman. =)

 

1 minute ago, Yui said:

You don't seem to understand what automate means. There is no such thing as Multiboxing software. Multi boxing is the act of having multiple computers running a game at the same time and playing both(or switching between windows of a game and controlling them individually). using third party tools to remotely control multiple accounts at once, is a bot, getting 20 accounts to follow you around and mimic your inputs is a bot. It is not being controlled by a human but a piece of software that just copies you. If you can't understand what automation even is then you have absolutely no right to call others stupid. Bot's are controlled by programs, when any program is controlling an account it is a bot, even if the bot just copies you... that doesn't change that the account is being controlled by a piece of software.

Does not matter 3rd party software = cheating in the eyes of the developer. Botting or Multiboxing.

NO DISTINCTION FROM THOSE THAT MATTER... aka Developers.

[Yui]

Just now, Dradiinmmo said:

 

Does not matter 3rd party software = cheating in the eyes of the developer. Botting or Multiboxing.

NO DISTINCTION FROM THOSE THAT MATTER... aka Developers.

I was explaining that there is no such thing as third party multi boxing software. Yes third party programs are cheating, and subject to bans.

[Drklf]

Just now, Yui said:

You don't seem to understand what automate means. There is no such thing as Multiboxing software. Multi boxing is the act of having multiple computers running a game at the same time and playing both(or switching between windows of a game and controlling them individually). using third party tools to remotely control multiple accounts at once, is a bot, getting 20 accounts to follow you around and mimic your inputs is a bot. It is not being controlled by a human but a piece of software that just copies you. If you can't understand what automation even is then you have absolutely no right to call others stupid. Bot's are controlled by programs, when any program is controlling an account it is a bot, even if the bot just copies you... that doesn't change that the account is being controlled by a piece of software.

Where on earth do you get your information? You can have multiple clients running on a single machine. And even if there's a program that sends the commands, it's you behind the keyboard who's in control of them. Not an automatic software, aka a bot. If you people can't understand these simple facts I'm not even gonna bother with it. This community is full of ignorant little children that have no clue about anything and state their opinions as facts. 

[SasamiMasaki]

4 minutes ago, Drklf said:

Are people here actually this stupid or are you just trolling? Third party software doesn't automatically mean it's a bot. Multiboxing software sends your manual commands to multiple windows, nothing is automated. You press W and the character on multiple clients move forward. You press A and your character on multiple clients strafe left. If it was a bot, you would press start on a software and watch as your characters moved automatically doing stuff for you, such as farming mobs for gold.. If you can't understand the difference I'd suggest you to stick to games like tetris or pacman. =)

Once again for the reading impaired:

 

bot³

 

[bot] 

Spell Syllables

noun

1.

a device or piece of software that can execute commands, reply to messages, or perform routine tasks, as online searches, either automatically 

or with minimal human intervention (often used in combination):

intelligent infobots; shopping bots that help consumers find the bestprices.

Have a nice day now... ^_-

[Drklf]

Just now, SasamiMasaki said:

Once again for the reading impaired:

 

bot³

 

[bot] 

Spell Syllables

noun

1.

a device or piece of software that can execute commands, reply to messages, or perform routine tasks, as online searches, either automatically 

or with minimal human intervention (often used in combination):

intelligent infobots; shopping bots that help consumers find the bestprices.

Have a nice day now... ^_-

Yes, you don't seem to be able to read. Minimal human intervention DOESN'T equal to completely controlling the characters. 

[Dradiinmmo]

1 minute ago, Drklf said:

Where on earth do you get your information? You can have multiple clients running on a single machine. And even if there's a program that sends the commands, it's you behind the keyboard who's in control of them. Not an automatic software, aka a bot. If you people can't understand these simple facts I'm not even gonna bother with it. This community is full of ignorant little children that have no clue about anything and state their opinions as facts. 

You seem a little angry. . .