What's with the Assassin's reach?

[Freyar]

They're managing to pull me back over 22m, and then they get all that time to stay hidden. Starting to get stupid-annoying since that's all that's out there in Open PvP.

[Aziraya]

Different skills have different ranges. Looking at their skill tree online though, their range seems to be around 16 meters for a lot of their skills. 22 meters can turn to 16 meters in the blink of an eye if you're moving toward each other or he uses some kind of dash skill or if you're experiencing lag.

[lmaogg]

There is no 20+ range I believe. And you got body swapped which changes your location with his, back facing him. Pretty annoying skill to get hit by since it goes through blocks and mini stuns you.

[Dulap]

i dont know about the 20+ but i can say the assassin is op.. Well i play as a blade master and i stand no chance. Always same thing , gets behind me stun and im dead in 1 sec :D

[Roxysox]

Honestly, if you can grapple an assassin, we're pretty much toast. The only issues with classes I find are Blade Dancer and KFM. If either one of those jump on me, I'm screwed and I know it, I still get angry though, because they can somehow manage to combo grapple and I can't even use my escape techniques to get away and locked into stealth. It's infuriating, since that's a large reason why an Assassin is an Assassin.

So as much as I don't want to give advice on how to beat me, use grapples if you've got em. We have a hard time against them.

[Freyar]

19 hours ago, Roxysox said:

Honestly, if you can grapple an assassin, we're pretty much toast. The only issues with classes I find are Blade Dancer and KFM. If either one of those jump on me, I'm screwed and I know it, I still get angry though, because they can somehow manage to combo grapple and I can't even use my escape techniques to get away and locked into stealth. It's infuriating, since that's a large reason why an Assassin is an Assassin.

So as much as I don't want to give advice on how to beat me, use grapples if you've got em. We have a hard time against them.

 

Once I got to mid 25's, the Phantom Grip combo isn't doing as much as it used to.

[Kiara]

Their tab (bodyswap) can actually be blocked with a defensive skill (BM's block, KFM block, SS, etc, etc)

[MangoHam]

On 20-1-2016 at 6:51 PM, Roxysox said:

Honestly, if you can grapple an assassin, we're pretty much toast. The only issues with classes I find are Blade Dancer and KFM. If either one of those jump on me, I'm screwed and I know it, I still get angry though, because they can somehow manage to combo grapple and I can't even use my escape techniques to get away and locked into stealth. It's infuriating, since that's a large reason why an Assassin is an Assassin.

So as much as I don't want to give advice on how to beat me, use grapples if you've got em. We have a hard time against them.

 

Don't think you've found FM's with a good build yet. Me and a few others have been dropping assassins like flies. Pretty sure not all of them are "noob".

[Gullerback]

Sounds to me like he was using High Wire.  You can run any distance for the duration and one of 3 combos of it pulls target to location and dazes.

 

As for phantom grip,  Force the sin to use Stealth (Flashbang+stealth effect) THEN phantom grip.  Stealth with 2 points will remove ALL CC except knockup

[lmaogg]

On 21/01/2016 at 7:33 AM, Kiara said:

Their tab (bodyswap) can actually be blocked with a defensive skill (BM's block, KFM block, SS, etc, etc)

hmm, I always thought it goes through parry. Might need to test again.

[Zaker]

As an assassin I can say, Yes we kill fast, if we have the element of suprise it's even faster. But when it comes to someone who knows how to counter and has a fast reflex (CC is a pain in the ass too). We can die just as fast

[Freyar]

I must be having some difficulty somewhere. My damage output is awful.. (and mostly because I'm stunlocked. One dash really makes it hard to break..) but other guys manage to hit for 30-60%.

[Magozz]

Tab swap doesnt go through block fyi. Just block it and you'll be fine.

[LadyLuxuria]

On 1/20/2016 at 5:46 AM, Dulap said:

i dont know about the 20+ but i can say the assassin is op.. Well i play as a blade master and i stand no chance. Always same thing , gets behind me stun and im dead in 1 sec :D

You uh.. do realize blade master is one of the hardest assassin match ups, right? Well.. Well played blade master's anyways.

[SinNoAria]

I had one guy grasp me from halfway across the map. Like you know the Misty woods pvp area? Like from the other side of the dragon, grasped me into the spawn area.