Without reading everything here:
1st boss loot = no orb needed = free for all
2nd boss loot = orb user get all for 1 copper (even if a 10.000g ginseng would drop)
If the orb user is nice, he can pay more gold for the better loot. So, everyone get a little bit. But it's up to him. Without the orb user, you would get nothing. But with him, you get xp, some items, event-tokens. Be happy with this for free.
This is what it should be. Normally.
But don't underestimate the toxic, greedy B&S community.
Experienced two myself:
- 2nd boss, all in the group agreed in chat "loot for the orb user". Used mine. And then, someone bid. First saying your loot, then bid? Very toxic
- Group has beaten the 1st boss, and they start recruit again after this. Asking "You has orb?" after the new players entered. Is this a joke? Can't do the daily anymore, lost 10g, lost the loot, lost the event-tokens, and a 24h dungeon-lock. You ruined the dungeon for the new players and your are still asking them for there orb? To pay for you, so you can finish the 2nd and receive event-tokens yourself? Are those people even aware of what they are doing?
I know, you can choose not to enter existing dungeon-groups. Couldn't believe, that they would even ask like this.
Then we have other unfriendly manners
- the YOYL plague. (can't see this anymore)
- the liar: have orb, MOML, then leaving after beating the first boss.
- the alt plague. "carry me with your high hm. but i bid and get the loot. i'm small and need it more. and you, as high hm, has a orb for sure, right?"
- the orb combination group. 6 player, each has 1/6 shard a day. Let's share and make 1. One player is collecting the 5 shards from the other, then leaving. Selling them for gold or making a new group with MOML. It's impossible to trust this community.
- and so on...
This all is not new. But extreme at moment with the new orb-system and event. In the last 2-3 years, we complained a lot in this forum. Wanted a change. But what happend? It got worse. It is another prove, that no one from ncsoft is reading there own official forum. Of course no reaction either. It's just the "we don't care attitude". (look what they did with MxM)
At moment, i would say skip this event or better, quit the game and play something else. But everyone can choose this for himself.