Issue with Demonize in Scarlet Empress encounter

[Azaethal]

It's become a commonly known fact that reentering the Demonize stance in the Scarlet Empress encounter does not work shortly after Demonize has expired. What's interesting is that there's an unused icon in UPK file 00052219 (file Buff_Debuff_Icon_12_result) on row 4, column 8, that I've yet to see during any part of the boss fight.

 

Either there's meant to be a debuff effect that does not show up after Demonize has expired to show when you can reenter the stance, or it can just be a simple bug. Regardless, it would be nice to know whether not being able to reenter Demonize is intended or not. There's an example of the issue in KFM Alisa's YouTube video of their boss clear at around 09:08 that demonstrates the issue.

 

I'd be happy to explain the issue further if need be. :)

[Grimoir]

It is an intended raid mechanic:

 

Entering the pool will give the status effect Injection.

Injection immobilizes and kills the player after 10 seconds. By both players entering the pool, Injection will be removed. Be sure to have both Demonize players communicating through voice chat as to which Firefall they should enter.

Having Injection removed will give you the status effect Demonize.

Demonize lasts for 60 seconds. That means the raid is without any Demonize targets in between Firefalls.

During Demonize, you’re immune to Crimson Energy - the damage over time status effect.

During Demonize, you cannot benefit from Soulburn or Soul Flare effect.

After Demonize expiraties, it’ll trigger instant death.

Once both players enter the pool, a link will be connected between you. Breaking the link will grant access to the most notable damage skill. You break the link by moving very close to the other player in Demonize.

 

Some things might have changed after the set of nerfs we got.

[Azaethal]

On 7/14/2020 at 9:02 AM, Grimoir said:

It is an intended raid mechanic:

 

Entering the pool will give the status effect Injection.

Injection immobilizes and kills the player after 10 seconds. By both players entering the pool, Injection will be removed. Be sure to have both Demonize players communicating through voice chat as to which Firefall they should enter.

Having Injection removed will give you the status effect Demonize.

Demonize lasts for 60 seconds. That means the raid is without any Demonize targets in between Firefalls.

During Demonize, you’re immune to Crimson Energy - the damage over time status effect.

During Demonize, you cannot benefit from Soulburn or Soul Flare effect.

After Demonize expiraties, it’ll trigger instant death.

Once both players enter the pool, a link will be connected between you. Breaking the link will grant access to the most notable damage skill. You break the link by moving very close to the other player in Demonize.

 

Some things might have changed after the set of nerfs we got.

I meant after Demonize has expired, the 60s demon stance. You can't enter again without being stuck for a while.

 

By the way, thanks for referring to the guide. I wrote it.

[DerDani]

Last thursday it was about 4 secs after demonized until the next pool spawned (<20%phase). I could do demon almost intant again.

 

(Sry for my bad english, i hope you know what i mean)