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that build is crap, more pvp block mixed with pve skills, crap either way,

 

pve use last tier block for iframe and chi stack, also howling blast first tier 3 points in for another chi stack after q or e or resist with shield.

 

https://bnstree.com/tree/SF?b=S1ccdudhg

for hm 6, if he got hm rmb and hm block, then this build would be far superior for chi stacks , dmg and survivability.
for later hm lvl then u can use displace chi stack and ice coil chill, but not absolutely more important than howling blast or last tier hm block skill.

also if he doesnt have hm rmb, then earth build, as the stacks of energy r just far too slow to make ice superior, also even if he got hm rmb, then he needs at  least the toi breeze kick badge or 60%+ crit chance for the ice build to work.

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Hello my friend.

 

Well, before saying why you should use each build, i'll send a link of what i use on earth and on ice build.

https://bnstree.com/tree/SF?b=rkxV60Fpe

On this link you have both builds one in each tab.

 

Before consider going for a build, you should notice a few things:

How much is your critical change;

Do you have ToI Badges? Which one?

Do you have HM skills? Which ones?

Do you have a good ping?

 

This questions are important for that reasons:

Earth build is quite hard to execute without a good ping/fps;

Earth Build depends on a good critical change to trigger Iron Shoulder, your main source of Chii Stack.

Ice build depends much of the ToI badge to boost the kick to avoid problems with lack of focus.

Both builds depends HM skills, but Ice build depends more because of its RMB, since it stack more Chii.

 

You need to have in mind that your main source of damage is Dragon Fists, so you need to get 5 stacks of chii as much as you can to have a good dps.

With all of the items above, Ice Build is better to stack chii, since Iron Shoulder doesnt have CD from using with Full Bloom. And this build will get even better after the patch in april 12.

Without any of the things above, i'd advice you to get the earth build, so you can do the rotation without lacking focus.

 

 

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that's somewhat outdated and a little inaccurate in some places. also, dont see any tabs in your builds there, still no points in howling blast and still mid tier block, so still not a decent pve build at all.

 

earth build needs crit to proc f yes, but with hm lmb u should not have any problems procing it, also an att ruby works wonders here.

it is correct, that both builds depend on hm skills, but the main dmg will not be dragonfist anymore after 12th of april, which is in just a few days.

if u check all bonus procs on raven and bracelet, then go even further into the future and check the leg badges, then u will see, that cobalt punch is one of the most pushed skills, also the set bonus for the bt shields have changed to 15% dmg on rmb and f proc earth and rmb only ice, 70% kingfist and dragonfist.

so dragonfist is a very nice burst every minute at 3 golden dragon stacks, but nothing more, the main dmg comes from proc enhanced skills, which is cobald punch and right punch.

also ultimately i would recommend earth specc for players in for the long game, meaning endgame with bracelet, raven wep, leg badges, combined badges.

simple reason is combo badge iron shoulder cdr .5 sec on breaking claw plus 1000%ap dmg on kingfist first hit plus leg badge 2500% ap dmg on kingfist first hit plus 5 sec of 500% ap earthdmg on cobaltpunch and 150% on dragonfist after kingsfist, combine that with raven proc of max 430% add earthdmg on cobaltpunch and bracelet proc of 380% for 4 sec after each iron shoulder and 120% dragonfist and then get a warlock friend and perhaps even a kfm tank friend and start fight with:

sb+fs, rmb+f anicancel till kingfist,  stack 1 golden dragon, rmb+f anicancel till kingfist again, stack 2 golden dragon, rmb+f anicancel again till kingfist, stack 3 golden dragon, focus chi, dragonfist till done, kingfist, sb end......there is nothing that compares to that burst.......and sustain is also absolutely godly, compared to that the ice % bonus on items is a joke and there is no real comparable combo badge for ice either.

 

or to make it easier to see, earth sb rotation:

awaken skill plus 380% + 430% + 500%( after first kingfist onwards) on every rmb plus kingfist 1000%+2500% plus at 3 golden dragon stacks and focus chi another 80% crit dmg with awakend dragonfist and 150%+120% dmg bonus, all that then with vt or bt shields with 15% dmg total again plus on rmb and 70% for dragonfist and kingfist.

 

it's all about synergy, compared to that ice would be during sb:

awaken skill plus 120% + 250% + 150% (after first frost storm onwards) on every rmb plus froststorm 500% up to 5 targets, so 1 target only once..

 

the bonus alone makes earth hit so much harder and with wl in pt earth and ice get to 3 golden dragons at the same speed, sure after sb ran out, ice can build chi stacks faster, about twice as fast, but the far smaller bonus from badges lets kingfist and frosstorm total dmg during whole fight dmg be comparably the same with kingfist only hitting half as often as froststorm, but the average dmg for the optimal anicancel rotation of earth is also quite a bit higher than ice rmb spam.

 

basically the low dmg mod on right punch awakend skill and right punch itself combined with lower % bonus available from items/badges is what makes the difference. 

 

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On 08/04/2017 at 6:41 AM, Mutumi said:

that's somewhat outdated and a little inaccurate in some places. also, dont see any tabs in your builds there, still no points in howling blast and still mid tier block, so still not a decent pve build at all.

 

earth build needs crit to proc f yes, but with hm lmb u should not have any problems procing it, also an att ruby works wonders here.

it is correct, that both builds depend on hm skills, but the main dmg will not be dragonfist anymore after 12th of april, which is in just a few days.

if u check all bonus procs on raven and bracelet, then go even further into the future and check the leg badges, then u will see, that cobalt punch is one of the most pushed skills, also the set bonus for the bt shields have changed to 15% dmg on rmb and f proc earth and rmb only ice, 70% kingfist and dragonfist.

so dragonfist is a very nice burst every minute at 3 golden dragon stacks, but nothing more, the main dmg comes from proc enhanced skills, which is cobald punch and right punch.

also ultimately i would recommend earth specc for players in for the long game, meaning endgame with bracelet, raven wep, leg badges, combined badges.

simple reason is combo badge iron shoulder cdr .5 sec on breaking claw plus 1000%ap dmg on kingfist first hit plus leg badge 2500% ap dmg on kingfist first hit plus 5 sec of 500% ap earthdmg on cobaltpunch and 150% on dragonfist after kingsfist, combine that with raven proc of max 430% add earthdmg on cobaltpunch and bracelet proc of 380% for 4 sec after each iron shoulder and 120% dragonfist and then get a warlock friend and perhaps even a kfm tank friend and start fight with:

sb+fs, rmb+f anicancel till kingfist,  stack 1 golden dragon, rmb+f anicancel till kingfist again, stack 2 golden dragon, rmb+f anicancel again till kingfist, stack 3 golden dragon, focus chi, dragonfist till done, kingfist, sb end......there is nothing that compares to that burst.......and sustain is also absolutely godly, compared to that the ice % bonus on items is a joke and there is no real comparable combo badge for ice either.

 

or to make it easier to see, earth sb rotation:

awaken skill plus 380% + 430% + 500%( after first kingfist onwards) on every rmb plus kingfist 1000%+2500% plus at 3 golden dragon stacks and focus chi another 80% crit dmg with awakend dragonfist and 150%+120% dmg bonus, all that then with vt or bt shields with 15% dmg total again plus on rmb and 70% for dragonfist and kingfist.

 

it's all about synergy, compared to that ice would be during sb:

awaken skill plus 120% + 250% + 150% (after first frost storm onwards) on every rmb plus froststorm 500% up to 5 targets, so 1 target only once..

 

the bonus alone makes earth hit so much harder and with wl in pt earth and ice get to 3 golden dragons at the same speed, sure after sb ran out, ice can build chi stacks faster, about twice as fast, but the far smaller bonus from badges lets kingfist and frosstorm total dmg during whole fight dmg be comparably the same with kingfist only hitting half as often as froststorm, but the average dmg for the optimal anicancel rotation of earth is also quite a bit higher than ice rmb spam.

 

basically the low dmg mod on right punch awakend skill and right punch itself combined with lower % bonus available from items/badges is what makes the difference. 

 

I made a mistake on creating the link. Know i did it right.

https://bnstree.com/tree/SF?b=rkxV60Fpe

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