Seyd Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 minute ago, lithium14 said: So these are all PVE soulshields? I don't see any crit defense... Mushin bopae set can sort of work as both PvE or PvP. But I think Moonwater Arena bopae set are still the best in terms of bulk. The rest are PvE focused from the looks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwathreon Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I wonder where you get the information from, and why you post information that has already been proven inaccurate (such as the Endless Tower Soulshield - it was said to be the defensive version in the stream, not the DPS / crit version). I mean you do an amazing job, but sometimes the information is so obviously inaccurate that I just dont grasp why you post it :| Is it just to have a filler to edit later? Or did you really not notice that it was the wrong set? xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grievuuz Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 25 minutes ago, Kwathreon said: I wonder where you get the information from, and why you post information that has already been proven inaccurate (such as the Endless Tower Soulshield - it was said to be the defensive version in the stream, not the DPS / crit version). I mean you do an amazing job, but sometimes the information is so obviously inaccurate that I just dont grasp why you post it :| Is it just to have a filler to edit later? Or did you really not notice that it was the wrong set? xD I'm finding it odd as well. Because from what I can tell when comparing the two, I'll be using the full 8-piece Endless Tower set. It's slightly better than the BSH one :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvenmad Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 yes definatly wrong info, I have all 8 new shileds and none match, although I did kind of guess we would not bbe getting anything like in the Korean patch, even though NC stated we would be following the Korean patches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleina Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, Elvenmad said: yes definatly wrong info, I have all 8 new shileds and none match, although I did kind of guess we would not bbe getting anything like in the Korean patch, even though NC stated we would be following the Korean patches Could you please share the stats of your soul shield? Set bonus along with the stats on each? or pictures idk. Would be very appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvenmad Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 26 minutes ago, Myleina said: Could you please share the stats of your soul shield? Set bonus along with the stats on each? or pictures idk. Would be very appreciated. stil in tower running it again, because I'm sure i have not got the max stats, but all are different than those you posted also Bonus stats are: 3 set > increase HP by 650 5 set > increase defence by 196 8 set > increase HP by 2140, increase Block by 117 to be honest the sets you posted look very like the sets that were available on the RU server And in case anybody is wondering the wheels of fate near E-Fleet 24 entrance DONT drop gems, best item that drops is purple coin box, containing one coin !! so dont waste coins on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleina Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 22 minutes ago, Elvenmad said: stil in tower running it again, because I'm sure i have not got the max stats, but all are different than those you posted also Bonus stats are: 3 set > increase HP by 650 5 set > increase defence by 196 8 set > increase HP by 2140, increase Block by 117 to be honest the sets you posted look very like the sets that were available on the RU server And in case anybody is wondering the wheels of fate near E-Fleet 24 entrance DONT drop gems, best item that drops is purple coin box, containing one coin !! so dont waste coins on them. Sorry I'm not the OP, but I did make the same mistake as her when I posted my post on Reddit. Edited out after being pointed out that I was wrong. I just want to know if other informations I've gathered is right before I edit my reddit post. Dont want to make a fool of myself a 2nd time. And thanks for the gem thing for the wheel.. I was sure it would drop some.. Altho from people's drop rate it seems it's still worth using Coins on since you do get more than 1 silver per 20 coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvenmad Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Just now, Myleina said: Sorry I'm not the OP, but I did make the same mistake as her when I posted my post on Reddit. Edited out after being pointed out that I was wrong. I just want to know if other informations I've gathered is right before I edit my reddit post. Dont want to make a fool of myself a 2nd time. And thanks for the gem thing for the wheel.. I was sure it would drop some.. Altho from people's drop rate it seems it's still worth using Coins on since you do get more than 1 silver per 20 coins. to be honest I dont think it is wise making any predictions as to what a patch will bring, at least thats how i am looking at it, I know NC clearly stated we would be following Korean patches, but I think thats quite clear now we are not. I know I played CN servers pretty hardcore since they launched and also RU servers so I was predicting what was to come myself, but I have give up now, :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleina Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, Elvenmad said: to be honest I dont think it is wise making any predictions as to what a patch will bring, at least thats how i am looking at it, I know NC clearly stated we would be following Korean patches, but I think thats quite clear now we are not. I know I played CN servers pretty hardcore since they launched and also RU servers so I was predicting what was to come myself, but I have give up now, :P Yeah.... While my reddit post got a lot of attention, unfortunately a lot of the information in it ended up being wrong due to us not following the same path as other versions... I only wished to help out players get prepared for the patch with the only information that I was able to find.. but guess that's just a bad thing to do. Would just be nice if NCSoft were clear about how they're going to do things so we dont have to get false hopes from other versions and whatnot. This game has been out for years, you cant expect your players to not expect the same things every other version got :/ Like the Pirate soul thing.. would be nice if they'd tell us if it's going to be in NA or not instead of making us wait and wonder... Oh well. I'll try to stop making pre-patch pointers and just work on getting post-patch information and try to gather them into 1 big guide. Issue with that is usually lots of people do the same so I feel like it's pointless. And also that I actually have to gather all that information before posting it, which can take some time since I work full time and cannot just nolife on BnS to find out every little things :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihwK Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Alright, so we want the BSH one for DPS. Makes things more easy to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvenmad Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 15 minutes ago, Myleina said: Yeah.... While my reddit post got a lot of attention, unfortunately a lot of the information in it ended up being wrong due to us not following the same path as other versions... I only wished to help out players get prepared for the patch with the only information that I was able to find.. but guess that's just a bad thing to do. Would just be nice if NCSoft were clear about how they're going to do things so we dont have to get false hopes from other versions and whatnot. This game has been out for years, you cant expect your players to not expect the same things every other version got :/ Like the Pirate soul thing.. would be nice if they'd tell us if it's going to be in NA or not instead of making us wait and wonder... Oh well. I'll try to stop making pre-patch pointers and just work on getting post-patch information and try to gather them into 1 big guide. Issue with that is usually lots of people do the same so I feel like it's pointless. And also that I actually have to gather all that information before posting it, which can take some time since I work full time and cannot just nolife on BnS to find out every little things :/ I agree, I was kind of expecting pretty much same content in game as Korea had, even more as NC stated thats the version they were following, but guess they are not. Anyways for those that would like to know, ok I have previous experience in Tower on FM, BM and Sum in other versions but cleared it 4 times (no deaths) now today on Summoner, with Awakened infernal staff and Infernal jewellery , so its not hard and you dont need TOP gear for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvenmad Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, mihwK said: Alright, so we want the BSH one for DPS. Makes things more easy to decide. Tower set seems to be mostly HP , defence and block, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prototypemind Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Very strange that we're getting sets that are so different than KR. Doesn't seem like there's much in there from the set actually mentioned above except for face tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleina Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, mihwK said: Alright, so we want the BSH one for DPS. Makes things more easy to decide. Somebody posted a mixed set of the two that seems to yield better stats. But they are still not 100% confirmed until we can get good data running on the NA soul shields. But here it is just in case. Credits to Kirvin on the dojo. 1 Mushin 2 Mushin 3 Bloodshade 4 Mushin 5 Bloodshade 6 Mushin 7 Bloodshade 8 Mushin 1: 68 crit, +114 fused crit 2: 168 crit, 71 defense, +120 fused crit 3: 175 block, 75 crit, +125 fused crit 4: 183 accuracy, 78 crit, +131 fused crit 5: 199 crit, 84 defense, +142 fused crit 6: 206 defense, 88 crit, +147 fused crit 7: 214 crit, 91 defense, +153 fused crit 8: 221 crit, 94 defense, +158 fused crit Set bonus: 3BSH: 70 accuracy 3Mushin: 650 hp 5mushin: 196 defense. For a total of 2201 crit. If your accuracy is lower than 110% hit chance (620 accuracy), you may trade in the defense secondary rolls on 2,5,7 and 8 for Accuracy. Missing the HP Rolls since these stats are based on the old system where soulshields didnt have inherent HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvenmad Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 39 minutes ago, Prototypemind said: Very strange that we're getting sets that are so different than KR. Doesn't seem like there's much in there from the set actually mentioned above except for face tanking. Yup thats about it, I'm bored with it allready :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prototypemind Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Looks like the updated numbers are right, so the Endless pieces are indeed a good upgrade to replace Pohs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauneh Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 7 hours ago, Kwathreon said: I wonder where you get the information from, and why you post information that has already been proven inaccurate (such as the Endless Tower Soulshield - it was said to be the defensive version in the stream, not the DPS / crit version). I mean you do an amazing job, but sometimes the information is so obviously inaccurate that I just dont grasp why you post it :| Is it just to have a filler to edit later? Or did you really not notice that it was the wrong set? xD This is why I asked where she data-mined it from (and she didn't answer) It's been proven before many times, the information she takes is from MULTIPLE versions of B&S which creates an inaccurate database, you shouldn't use it for information. Our version of B&S is different from others, and they can change anything they want last minute to adapt to their "localization" I would never take information from anyone other than the official ingame information when it's released. Or of course if the files are there in the NA client to be data-mined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihwK Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Is there any information out yet with the best possible way to maximize DPS, which is not a maybe? I didn't feel like the Endless pieces are worth the money and time to replace poh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 On 2/11/2016 at 9:11 PM, mihwK said: Is there any information out yet with the best possible way to maximize DPS, which is not a maybe? I didn't feel like the Endless pieces are worth the money and time to replace poh. http://bns.endgame.pk/items/show.php?name=endless_tower&type=soulshield&stage=0 this is confirmed about the endless tower set. i can tell you 100% it is correct the same webpage has the bsh set too in it. but for some reason it only shows the blue one... the purple one seems to show 0 to all stats... dont know why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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