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I don't mean from the B&S Logo, I mean from the time you click the Start Game button from the NC2 Launcher or BnS Buddy Launcher to the pin screen. Edit: Well with those times I think it was timed from where I meant. Just saying from when the logo appears is different for me. It takes a while for it to show.

One more thing, so the difference between the 850, 970 and 970 Pro seems to be a few seconds each at most. But what about launching the game? Currently it takes me maybe 1.5 minutes to get from Start Game to the PIN screen with the 850 EVO in 64bit and maybe 20 seconds in 32 bit. Also I have the ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 motherboard.

Waiting for this info too.

Thanks for the replies all. I'm already using the 850 Evo and I could get a 250gb 970 Plus for $70usd or a 512gb 970 Pro for $110. Since I'd just be upgrading, it does seem kinda steep for little difference if any. 4 seconds consistently shaved off would be nice, but I don't think I'd bother spending unless it saved a bit more time.

Can anyone who's used both share whether there was a noticeable different in load and launch times for B&S? And is there a worthwhile difference between say the standard 970 vs Pro or Plus?

Just got to reading this, my bad. No one playing any class should full rely on Simple Mode, that's not its purpose. It simply does the tedious, repetitive rotations for people, but everyone still has to use other important skills alongside Simple Mode. So you're correct on Gunner, 4 > V > Tab > Simple Mode. With your ms you should be able to sometimes cast 7 Bullet Storms, which would show 35 hits in the parse, each one hits 5x. As Fire FM, Simple Mode doesn't prioritize using Dual Dragon before Inferno, so Inferno does not get the extra 15 second reduction needed to completely reset the cd. My Simple Mode is binded to RMB for me, so for me the correct way to start off would be something like LMB>RMB>2>LMB>2>1>4>X>Hold down RMB(Simple mode). The second LMB+2 gets me 5 Ember Stacks, so I can use Shock Fire for the Inferno insta-cast, then Simple Mode starts off with Dual Dragon(lowering Inferno's CD by 15 seconds), the additional Inferno cast and Blazing Wall(which also lowers Inferno CD by 15 seconds as well as resetting Dual Dragon), then it'll use Dual Dragon again, which lowers Inferno CD again allowing me to immediately cast it 2 more times. This maximizes your burst and it's how you're supposed to start every time you get a weapon reset. You want to get 1>4>X off before using Dual Dragon all the time. It can feel awkward and clunky, but get comfortable with it and you'll notice an improvement. The purpose of me using 4 in between is because often if you just try to use 1>X, the Inferno won't be instant, you have to give it a slight delay for the Shock Fire buff to actually work, but I prefer using 4 in between instead. For gunner, your opener is the same as mine, except I start with a stun for Hae Mujin, so 2>4>V>Tab, then I just hold down simple mode, during my 2nd Bullet Storm, I start spamming X and immediately after, continue holding down Simple Mode. If I'm fast enough, I can still get the 7th Bullet Storm before Tombstone is off, then immediately use my C, and continue on with Simple Mode. For gunner, you should almost never release the simple mode button. I try to line up my CDs, I don't like to use C if I don't have my badge up, so if the V is almost off CD, or I have a reset coming, I'll sometimes wait for Carpet Bomb before using Firefall.

One tip I can give you already is to add all points to HM Focus, especially as a gunner. If you prefer Offense because you like to see higher AP, then that is your choice. But, if your goal is to have better damage, then you go with 25 points in HM Focus. The bonus for reaching the thresholds in Offense doesn't at all compare to the amount of burst you gain from HM Focus. Some just think it's 50 Boss AP for 10 seconds and they'd rather go with the static Offense + bonus, but the extra AP toward your opening burst in just about every situation will provide the greater benefit. That aside, the rest would come down to improving gameplay. Both your gunner and FM are capable of clearing even with ping on the lower end. Can you send a parse next time you attempt so I can look at your counts and see if I can help from there?

I wouldn't suggest not bothering learning mechs for any dungeon. Albeit, lower dungeons, some things are just like QoL things to know, but I still see people getting bashed for killing guards in Naryu Sanctum on boss 1. And I've had a few groups that dismantled in TSM because someone would constantly drive boss 1 into a crystal after being told what to do and what not to do. People still wipe on RT, and it is very annoying on boss 1 in ST when one clueless person is too far from the group for the sandtrap and dies while getting everyone frozen. I've even had a wipe in DD when I was unfortunate enough to get a full group of newbies/bots/leeches and was on an alt too undergeared to pretty much solo and couldn't solo CC the boss for mech damage. He healed and we hit enrage. And before anyone replies with their useless "You should be bursting before mechs" comment, obviously that doesn't always happen. Sometimes on alts, you get full groups low dps alts/newbies/bots/leeches who can't do that. And before anyone replies with their borderline useless "Find a clan or I run with friends so I don't have that problem" comment, yeah it's nice to have a clan or friends to run with. But it's stupid to assume that doing this should apply to everyone. Some have too many alts to get a familiar group to run with on every toon everyday, some are newbies and still meeting people, and some just are more reserved and play on their own a lot.

I've been in your position before. Biggest thing is to prepare yourself as much as you can by researching mechanics and looking at videos of a dungeon before going in. Then, realizing it's not as bad as you think it is to mess up, and it helps a lot to let your party know it's your 1st time and/or that you're new. People tend to be more lenient of newbies if they're made aware you're new and not just a trap. We've all been there, so don't be afraid to speak up, people get more irritated when nothing is said and they're punished for it. If you want, you can send your in-game name and I'd be fine helping you learn dungeons from time to time.

OP is calling it easy and flaunting to be a prick, it's not really hard to see. It takes very little common sense to understand how the event works. I for one can do it easily with my gear, but probably still won't sense I couldn't care much less about the wings or title. But, I still can see why it's annoying having something so simple be gated behind a gear requirement. I'd much rather equalized stats with challenging mechanics for a reward, that way everyone can participate.

Warden has great damage in both. They have great burst, but your sustained is still good too. You may be confident in your ability, but if you're struggling on the event where others aren't then you're lacking somewhere.

I'm not defending the event, I'm against a dps requirement for something like this. But that aside, 1900 AP, gunners and FMs are definitely capable of doing this fight with relative ease. Yes, gunner is a bursty class with obviously lower sustained, but the fight isn't be so long and mech-heavy that your sustained should be falling that low with the kind of gear you should have at 1900 AP and honestly they should probably be doing 900k+ sustained anyway. I'm assuming you have high ms, need to work on your rotations, or you need to work on timing things against the boss. I.e. for gunner if you aren't using Bullet Storm 6 times with every Tombstone you're probably not timing things well. And I know majority of FM's I come across aren't playing optimally. Either they aren't using simple mode, or if they are, they aren't utilizing fused badge if they have it. They'll cast Dual Dragon before Inferno all the time. Regardless, unless it's your connection or a physical limitation, you should have room for improvement to beat it and I'd be fine helping out if that's the case.