Feature: Alt control in game / Clan

[Xenosaga]

Too bad we have not feature thread, like other mmo forums. Ideas from players are welcome to improve the game.

 

Here is my idea to improve the Alt Control inside the game, especially inside the clan.

We all known we can make at least 1 alt as F2P. But Premium users can even have 6 alts, total 7 characters.

Now there are problems:

- The clan is first 50 people big.

- Upgrade clan goes until 80 people. Sounds not very big. (if you know Swordsman as example, the clan size can even big as 200 members!!!) 80 members is just 30 members more but it needs already level 13. That is way more ahead and more expensive. I cannot see because slider for level 15 won't go more down and stay unreadable.

The game has no control over alts. Which means the alts will also use clan spaces.

That is a big problem. If we allow main+alt in a clan, we have 50/2 = 25 real players. 2 alts makes it only more worser.

What about 6 alts? Forget it. That looks clan more less active and you cannot invite more. It's already full. Full of alts.... it's wrong this way.

 

Now, i know many players want change later to alts and join the clan. Bu the leader player has also own problem if he has 6 alts. As leader you want also keep clan in eye, but changing to other alt is problem, you only waste the room, even you put all 6 alt in the clan. Pretty bad idea and not good idea because the clan room limit.

 

I have the idea to solve the alt problem. We need some alt control mechanism in the game.

 

I try explain how the system works:

- When you make as leader with your main a clan...

- and at later time you want use your alt #1 in the clan. Alt is not in the clan yet.

Here the game will help you.

- Open the clan window (Key H).

- You will see the game recognize you as real owner of the clan, and will ask you with a question:

"One of your characters is already registered in the clan XXXXXX"

"Will you add your character to your clan in the place of the registered character?"

[Yes] - (The character will take in the place of the registered character)

[No] - (Your character wil not register in your clan and stay alone. Here you can even go to other clan for example.)

 

If you made a mistake, you can go to Clan Management window and request the joining in your clan.
Even you left other clan and want come back, you can do it.

Of course if you change to another faction, the game won't ask you if you want join the clan. It's not possible and you stay seperated.

Only if you're back at right Faction side, the game can ask you again if you want add your character to your clan.

The main wil NOT deleted but it shares the same spot with the alt. It changes only if you log to another character.

 

What happended if you let add your alt to your clan:

- your main name will changed automatic to alt name in Clan listing.

(That is good, you don't waste more clan rooms, it's still one room.)

- The spot will shared this way between characters.

- you gain automatic all leader rights (game know it already from your main - so it's basically locked at your account)

- This way, you can add more alts to your clan, the game will control the alts for you automatically. Easy and it's very beautiful.

 

The alt control will solve the alts room problems in the clan and you can focus on real players. No more room wasted for extra alts. This is exactly we all wanted.

You know the Character Search know already and show even other characters below your found name? Did you see many names below it? The server knowns it already!

 

For players it goes also same way with Alt Control:

- Player add one of the characters to the clan (invited by leader ofc)

- Now later if player want add the second character to the same clan.

- The game will recognize you if you press H key for clan window and will ask you:

"Will you add your character to the clan in the place of the registered character?"

[Yes] - (The character will take in the place of the registered character)

[No] - (Your character wil not register in the clan and stay alone. Here you can even go to other clan for example, or another Faction.)

 

The problem is ofc if some characters are in one Faction and some are in second Faction. That is bit strange right (not tested it) and it might cause peek to other side.
But most players will choose one Faction side.

 

The Alt Control system has strong points:

- No wasting clan room because many alts...

- Easy add to the same clan like earlier character. No need ask leader over and over again, join and kick over and over again. That is just more annoying.

- Better helping clan with spending mats and money.

- Better helping others with right class.

- And much relaxing with changing characters, you stay in the clan and you can play normally.

- Very easy for leader to change between some characters he like. No problem in leader rights, it stays same.
- Less work for leader, to invite and kick player characters again and again if they want change to alt.

- Clan has pure amount real players, more active!!! No "empty alt spots" because you cannot play 2 characters at same time!

I think it's not allowed with multi-client with same account. Bots use multi-client and as possible one account.... that is very wrong.

 

Can NcSoft make the Alt Control system possible for the game? It solves many alt problems because the clan room is "expensive", and clan will not very big like 200 or 300 members room (compared to some mmos who will allow very much characters - alts no problem there)

As programmer this system should not very hard to make it possible. It has clear check points:

- Player must have at least one clan registered clan in the account.

- If registered, game will ask you if you want join the registered clan.

- If game see 2 or more clans registered at your account, the game can show you a list of registered clans. You can choose which one you want join.

- Game will not ask your if none of the clan is at correct Faction side of your character. (might show error message or clans grayed out)

- Game will not ask you if you have not choosen Faction side. (it can show warning)

- Game will only ask you if Faction matched with one of the registered clans. Same if you have just one clan registered.

- Game will not ask you if you are not in clan registered. This way, it goes at normal way and you need invite for a clan. (there is no warning need, just not visible)

- After invite in the clan, you can let other character connect with the clan. Game will check it if you press key H for Clan window and show your the question.

- If you don't want let another character join the clan, game will not ask you again. You must go to clan management and re-activate the question check.

- The clan management is not active if there is no clan found in your account. (just not visible)

- When game found you're leader of the clan, you will receive automatic the leader rights for other characters if they're added to same clan.

- Same for if player has higher rank rights, the another characters will also get it. Leader will know it because he see linked characters and recognize the names.

 

Because account is always same, there are no risks to abuse the system. Leader account is linked to clan leader position, so no one can steal it. The characters of leader are all same and will get all leader rights if leader choose it. But if leader let one character stay outside, this character stays seperated. The separated character can go to other clan or make second clan, or go to another Faction side. To recover it, go back to right Faction side, then request the Alt Control system again and you're back in the clan. Perhaps with some delay to avoid clan-hopping.

 

What are your thoughts for this Alt Control system?

[Xenosaga]

Bump this thread.

[Teiji]

Great idea. I like it.

 

If (BIG IF) they do implement this idea, it might take awhile cause they gotta overhaul pretty much the whole guild system.

[Xenosaga]

I also want it, because it solved the clan space problem at more easy way.

If the MMO has clan with 200-300 characters room, Alt Control is not really needed.

 

The MMO Skyforge has no problem: because ONE char has access to all 13 classes. Skyforge has never room problems in this way.

But this game Blade and Soul has small clan size: 50 members. Upgrade clan goes slow. At level 13, then clan is 80 members big. That is not much and it's very expensive.

 

Not sure what max clan size in the game might have, but i know for sure: we need Alt Control system. Much easier, safe and less troublesome, especially for leader.

With Alt Control, you can change easier to other class without wasting extra spaces in clan.

 

7 characters is pretty much, and too much for clan. It's no fun if your alts cannot or may not join clan because there is no room for it. Leader also cannot keep clan in eye while leveling other characters. Not great. Alt Control will solve this problem.

[Xenosaga]

Bump because too much new topics in Bug forum. Can NcSoft not make FAQ for many common problems and bugs?

[Xenosaga]

Too much bugs posted, this goes quickly away to other pages. Bump again.

(or moderator may move this to more calmer General part, but why not newly made Feature/Request forum?)

[Xenosaga]

Because Friendlist is already shared in account, so if you log in with another character, you see immediately other friends. No need to rebuild whole list again. (Many mmos has no shared friendlist - so this is already possible)

 

Which means adding the Alt Control system to Clan system should no problem.

We need more upvotes for Alt Control system, because it's really solution for clan room problems.

Even in my clan, i see more alts since other players are started to play other classes because first character is already at level 45... But i cannot add alts because the room is limited and expensive. It's just stupid to kick mains for alts and when after some weeks come back as main, kick again alts?

How can i talk with them in clan channel? That is the problem now in BnS.

[Xenosaga]

Endless bumping up, because no one reacted.

 

Still very useful feature for BnS... Can NcSoft READ this thread too?