Dest and Summ

[Sherizumi]

What the ever living &%$@ do you do against these guys. Des simply spins and spins and spins and spin, and nothing hits him. Nothing. I iFrame like crazy trying to find an opening, and there isn't one. No cc's land, even Howling Fist, once his defense is broken, immediately grabs me and starts wailing. Summoners, well, I think we all know about them.

[Pestiferius]

Except while redspin Destros can always be knocked down, so lag sweep, ground ripple and frost nova can work wonders vs them. also 3 sec counter works better then stun counter since they r immun to stun but not freeze ^^