Spyroxion

700 tokens is far too easy for swordsmans hat + they are account bound so it is not that fair. Naksun hat can be exchanged at NPC already in Mushins Tower

You see, thing is, as I said before, I have my self infinite challenge, swordsman hat, obsidian serpent outfit and black veil (these 2 are also hard and painful to get), got red mask from farming and it just shows nothing. Why? because it's RNG. No one knows how many runs I did for those outfits, how much patience it cost me, heck I was farming Obsidian serpent with black veil and Infinite challenge back in lvl 45 cap on BM who has pretty much weakest PvE class at that moment while now its farming few buttons and dead. Furthermore, while one farms his behind off, other gets in 1-2 runs. Like one of my friends who quit BnS ages ago and doesn't care about game at all, got swordsman hat in about 5 runs while I started my farm on first night of Mushins Tower release and got it like a week ago. It would be one thing if it was hard and tedious to get but it's 100% but it is completely different thing when it is hard and tedious and it's RNG. So to sum up, fancy outfit doesn't show your hard work because no one knows if you got it in 1 or in 1000 runs. P.S.: don't get me wrong, I do enjoy using rare cosmetics, especially Black Veil, don't remember last time I saw someone using it, however, I wouldn't mind if others could obtain it more easily (and i bet that only old school players knows how to farm for it).

Oh hey look another "I already have this so go and enjoy this pain as well" person. How you guys simply do not understand the concept of MMORPG and outdated continent. In decently published MMORPG old continent stuff should be easier to get than was before. You know how hard it was back in the day to get True Scorpio weapon + true boss accs? Then later on Baleful/Seraph? You had to grind A LOT to get them. Now Baleful/Seraph is 5 Naryu Silver. So what? It was inevitable that it would happen as with the time it got outdated. And I am outfit farmer my self, I am proud of Infinite Challenge, Obsidian Serpent outfit, Black Veil, Red Mask, Swordsmans hat, for some of them I did hundreds and hundreds of runs like boi.... And if they would have add now them to achievement vendor - I wouldn't mind - let people go and get them, I would know for my self that I farmed them and got them in that way and I would have been proud, no one would care but I am playing for my self and not to prove someone that at some point RNG blessed me and dropped the cosmetic. And the main thing it is RNG, people might be farming 12hrs a day, every day for entire year and not get certain piece since it is RNG + outdated continent that no one does. Let people be happy, this game is already sad enough.

No you are not alone and I am glad to find people who are like this as well, it's rare to find someone thinking like this :D I mean, play the game for your self, not others. Classes, cosmetics or what ever else, doesn't matter if it's overused or not, as long as it makes YOU happy - use it, wear it, it's a game at the end of the day, it's supposed to make you happy of what you are doing and not adjusting your self by others.

I am not saying cosmetic is outdated, Tower it self is outdated 1 to 7f with all these doors and npc talking after each boss. And I am not a clan leader nor I have the clan leader always online. And no I do not need to "complain" about others because as I said, other can be farmed in a normal way, not with 95% of what you doing is waiting and loading (because boss fight lasts what? 2-5 secs?).

Good for you, now please go away, people who don't get drop for years of farming talking here

Because your question doesn't fit my suggestion. I am talking about one specific cosmetic that you need to farm on old, outdated, time wasting system (you can see the difference between how floors go 1-7 and between 9-20 just by doors alone). My main point is that it is OUTDATED. They didn't repeat the mistake with doors on further floors but didn't handle their first mess up + amount of loading screens that is way more and more often than farming any kind of dungeon + extremely ridiculous drop rate. I am not talking about any others because others can be farmed in normal dungeons, even in outdated ones like Bloodshade harbor if you want mask or some outfit can be just simply ran as a normal dungeon. So I am talking about one thing and you ask me why get rid of ALL which completely doesn't fit my query.

Were you here when Merchant of Wonders would spawn in Cold Storage and Heavens Mandate and had oils and good gem (good in those days) inside? People were buying resets like CRAZY. SO yeah, they can make quite a profit to say the least.

Enjoy? I am sorry but I can not get this cosmetic for what now, over 2 years while some people get from few runs? And I have even now deal with so much time waste on doors and loading screens n stuff like that and it doesn't drop. So you want to say person who got from 8th run deserves but me who is trying for years to get I don't? It needs alternative man. I want to enjoy cosmetic, but I can't because it doesn't drop and there is NO alternative.

That's why we need adjustment.... I'm farming for Junghado hat from day 1 of it's release and never saw it since and here people get it within few runs, like one of my friends who quit the game now, got the hat in first few runs...

Well it is nice when they put some cosmetics into Trove or other events but it's not nice when it's off the chart xD That's why I won't farm 4th floor costume although I like it, will only keep on trying to get the hat but doors alone is driving me nuts... Preach. I am an outfit farmer (have obsidian serpent outfit + black veil, red mask (farmed), infinite challenge, poharan stuff (ghee had to run few hundred times to finish collecting stuff) and all kind of other outfits that are not so easy to get in my wardrobe..) and the one who can run hundreds of times just to get one piece of cosmetic, like now with Jinghado hat I started farm upon Mushin's tower release back in lvl 45 cap. Yup started farming one cosmetic years ago. Never seen it drop. Never got it on any character. Only stupid bodyguard outfits. And indeed, I would love to finally somehow get it (not by Merchant of wonders or trove) but that wouldn't be RNG. I really don't think that getting one cosmetic part should be harder than gearing up with entire end game set up.

Red mask was in trove? Oh ffs... Well usually my standpoint is that cosmetics from old continent should be easier to get and from current one you should work your behind off in order to get them. And since Swordsman's hat is from old continent it should be easier to get, either by achievement points, as I said like 1500-1700 or some certain achievement, like 100 Junghado kill one, something that is not RNG but you still need to work for, or improving farming conditions (like at least make gates open right after boss dies, teleport not to outside but to room where you enter tower, cut the talks in the Dreadtide aren etc. However, they should stop putting those rare cosmetics in merchant of wonders, this thing for sure just gives out for free rare and nice cosmetics...

I think we differ at this situation. For me personally, I do not care if cosmetic is being widely used or not, nor I get something rare just to show off (if I wanted to do that, I would use cowboy set from founders pack + red mask from one place that I got from (seriously, since I came back I am yet to see anyone using red mask)). For me it's like, I play the character, I get to see characters look all the time and if it looks good for me - I'm wearing that despite if it is being widely used or not. Sometimes I put on completely generic outfits (I change my outfits like my socks) just because it looks nice. If person doesn't wear something because other guy is wearing that is more of a personal problem and makes me question: "do you play for your self or just to show off for others?" But I guess that's just different points of view towards the game.

You see, thing is I farmed my ass off back in the day for blackwidow mask, what as the result? Appeared in Merchant of wonders and people just grabbed them for few gold. I farmed something else - appears again in some event/sale. I farmed my ass off and was saving up for months to go from true boss to Bale 6 what happened? It's free now. Or 5 silver if you want to re-roll for 6 gem slots. All the hours and days/weeks of event grind I used to do on like 3-4 alts for a gem that now can be bought from dragon express and few times better, what about that? Should I go and cry about how it is unfair that I had to work so hard for worse gems than can be gotten really easy now? heck gems you get from story are better than from events few years ago. A lot of things I worked like hell is now basically free. But I don't ask for compensation because they can get for free. Why? Because updates happens, old continent gets pushed back, it becomes more of a nuisance rather than enjoyment. Like look at 1-7f, it is completely outdated, even doors don't let you speed it up. People complain about F8 of 3 loading screens, ghee go try farm Jinghado in current gear meta, that thing is 10000000000x worse than going to F8 dungeons via loading screens. It was fun to farm him at lvl 45 cap upon his release but now.... Just give it a shot... If 1250 seems to small, maybe something like 1500-1700? For newer characters it is something that they should spend time in reaching (characters from day 1 of course will have tons of achievement points from farming old dungeons that are not even on F8 now). Problem is not the farming it self but how game system it self stops you from decent farming and makes it painful. Like also look at dreadtide arena, my god I'm beyond happy I got Infinite Challenge within few runs (meanwhile Junghado in total 500+ and counting) because of how much time you just wait for NPC to finish talking. And to be honest, if they would add Infinite Challenge to Achievement vendor I wouldn't be mad, why? Well because I know what kind of pain is to do this dungeon, what kind of nuisance it is + I got it a while ago, I could enjoy this outfit for longer time then people who would have gotten it from Achievements.

A reason for "no" would be? It's an old continent, it has no profit in it, "farming" it is spending time in loading screens and wait time for doors to open (unlike 9+ floors where you can instantly after fight go through the gate). I don't really see a reason for no, but if you have please state why.

Hello, so, our beloved Junghado on 7th floor of Mushins tower drops this really rare Swordsman's hat. And it is hard to get (since it's release on lvl 45 cap, from all my chars I did in total maybe 500 runs or so and never saw it). If you want to farm it now.... Well it goes like this: Loading screen to room, loading screen from room to tower it self (let's say you use 5th floor ticket) > you kill boss within seconds > you wait until door opens to go further (old system) > your run next floor > kill boss within seconds > wait until door opens > run next floor > kill Junghado within seconds > teleport out (loading screen) > repeat. So, end result is you spend 90% of time farming this hat on loading screens and waiting for door to open to progress to next floor. In the past it wasn't that tedious because it took some time to clear it so you was spending most of the time fighting instead of waiting and loading. But that's not the case with current gear standards. My suggestion would be either 1) add exchange to get hat for Warrior tokens (drops 1 - 7f); 2) Add at achievement merchant for 1000 or 1250 achievement points + gold + fabrics (the usual). Some of cosmetics from old continent was added to Achievement merchant or other exchanges, why not add this hat considering the fact that you have to farm with old system of Mushins tower that just stops you with loading screens and wait times for doors to open.