Crazylime Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 The ability to stun, hold, and spin to parry attacks. Don't you think that is a bit too overpowered when it comes to arena? All they have to do is spin and wait for the right moment to grab you knock you up in the air and do their ultimate skill. Should really look into revamping this class a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerkmind Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 As a sin player I couldn't agree more . there is litterly NOTHING a sin can do to beat a blade cancer as five point strike can't be countered parried or blocked . the only way we can stop five point skill is by using our lotus strike BEFORE they use five point skill. But that means guessing when they're gunna use it .GUESSING. Seems balanced to me. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuidokas Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Personally i find good KFMs much harder to deal with. Against DB just don't hit into spin parry (wait 0.5 sec after spin start then you can damage them for free), iframe/SS their 1 and they will be focus starved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazylime Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 KFM and Sin are also overpowered as heck too. KFM are allowed to stun, then hit hit hit hit, stun hit hit hit, stun hit hit hit. Sin = invisible, thunder attack, daze, thunder attack, slit throat, daze, slit throat, throw up into air, daze, thunder attack, slit throat, daze rinse and repeat. If that doesn't work hit until half HP for sin, and then wait until timer is done, stay invisible, then win. At least people can get out of destroyer's grab and hit them. Some can also beat an experienced one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraDraco Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 As BD I can agree that assasin is weaker than us,but thats because you try to rush us in start of the game,because 99% are think that being invisible is God mode for you ppl. And thats how I make assasins fly in first 5 seconds of match. And God help you if you dont have any way to brake my force chocke... Btw flash bang is not making you invisible too - if I can see your healt bar and my Z is off cd you will fly. But there is always that 1% games where assasins go full pasive and just play whit theyr counters and stay stealth and atack from range when all skills are off cd. That the only time I can tell that assasin is equal to me. Other than that - its easy win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decider Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 10 hours ago, Crazylime said: KFM and Sin are also overpowered as heck too. KFM are allowed to stun, then hit hit hit hit, stun hit hit hit, stun hit hit hit. Sin = invisible, thunder attack, daze, thunder attack, slit throat, daze, slit throat, throw up into air, daze, thunder attack, slit throat, daze rinse and repeat. If that doesn't work hit until half HP for sin, and then wait until timer is done, stay invisible, then win. At least people can get out of destroyer's grab and hit them. Some can also beat an experienced one too. KFM? Have you tried not blowing your tab at the first cc you get hit with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foomps Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 19 hours ago, Nerkmind said: As a sin player I couldn't agree more . there is litterly NOTHING a sin can do to beat a blade cancer as five point strike can't be countered parried or blocked . the only way we can stop five point skill is by using our lotus strike BEFORE they use five point skill. But that means guessing when they're gunna use it .GUESSING. Seems balanced to me. :/ Spec into lotus fury and use your 5point when they use their 5 point, or 2->SS->Q if you're a god sin. BD are one of my preferred matchups, if you're complaining about them as a sin then you need to "git gud". If they're spinning, back off to 15m away from them and let them spin it cost them 2chi per spin, after they stop spinning most likely they gonna pop immunity and go for an aerial into phantom grip for chi steal or try to get some chi back with throwing blades. If they pop immunity then drop your lotus, if they try to use their throwing sword drop smokescreen or just ss it. Your tab->1 out ranges their dashes so you should be winning neutral games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakunDes Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 52 minutes ago, Foomps said: Spec into lotus fury and use your 5point when they use their 5 point, or 2->SS->Q if you're a god sin. BD are one of my preferred matchups, if you're complaining about them as a sin then you need to "git gud". If they're spinning, back off to 15m away from them and let them spin it cost them 2chi per spin, after they stop spinning most likely they gonna pop immunity and go for an aerial into phantom grip for chi steal or try to get some chi back with throwing blades. If they pop immunity then drop your lotus, if they try to use their throwing sword drop smokescreen or just ss it. Your tab->1 out ranges their dashes so you should be winning neutral games. I play both Sin and LBD. Flower doesn't work sometime even if you spam V, you can only use flower on the first hit, the second hit onward doesn't work even if you ss or q . the animation to sent you to the sky is way too fast. Sin needs the legendary skill woodblock to be able to fight LBM tbh. a good LBD will just wreck a good sin. they have 3 invulnerable skills which makes them very strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragoshan Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I cant touch blade cancer as a KFM. I can hold my own against any class with equal chances, but those little shits are just out of this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foomps Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 15 minutes ago, TakunDes said: I play both Sin and LBD. Flower doesn't work sometime even if you spam V, you can only use flower on the first hit, the second hit onward doesn't work even if you ss or q . the animation to sent you to the sky is way too fast. Sin needs the legendary skill woodblock to be able to fight LBM tbh. a good LBD will just wreck a good sin. they have 3 invulnerable skills which makes them very strong Probably a ping issue but i can woodblock->ss->q a pentaslash, if i have to, most of the time but yeah legendary woodblock would make it a lot easier being able to resist 1 attack but the whole point of speccing into lotus fury to to counter pentaslash so you might as well do that instead of blowing 3 escapes/counters. I wouldn't say that a good lbm will rekt a good sin but the odds are definitely in the lbm's favor. Lbms have too much dmg and sins don't have enough escapes rn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DankDuck1 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 13 hours ago, Crazylime said: KFM and Sin are also overpowered as heck too. KFM are allowed to stun, then hit hit hit hit, stun hit hit hit, stun hit hit hit. Sin = invisible, thunder attack, daze, thunder attack, slit throat, daze, slit throat, throw up into air, daze, thunder attack, slit throat, daze rinse and repeat. If that doesn't work hit until half HP for sin, and then wait until timer is done, stay invisible, then win. At least people can get out of destroyer's grab and hit them. Some can also beat an experienced one too. Sin and KFM are not overpowered lmao... KFM is the hardest class to master, while sin is second hardest. Of course they're gonna be good if someone practices. Also, no shit sin = stealth, the entire class is based around stealth & crits. Plus, it's easy as *cricket* to get a sin out of stealth, especially as a destroyer / blade dancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DankDuck1 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, dragoshan said: I cant touch blade cancer as a KFM. I can hold my own against any class with equal chances, but those little shits are just out of this world. As a sin I can't touch blade dancers and destroyers... I get hit out of stealth so quickly, all they have to do is spam the spin button... Even if I get into stealth and manage to get away from them, they just spam spin until my stealth runs out or I run into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foomps Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 10 minutes ago, DankDuck1 said: As a sin I can't touch blade dancers and destroyers... I get hit out of stealth so quickly, all they have to do is spam the spin button... Even if I get into stealth and manage to get away from them, they just spam spin until my stealth runs out or I run into them. You know you can tab them while they're spinning right? Tab -> 1 -> 100-0 combo to bait out their tab escape then stall for 10 sec and do the combo again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DankDuck1 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Foomps said: You know you can tab them while they're spinning right? Tab -> 1 -> 100-0 combo to bait out their tab escape then stall for 10 sec and do the combo again. Huh? Every time I try it gets blocked or resisted.... do they have iframes that I'm somehow hitting every time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subpargamer Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 So much butthurt in this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DankDuck1 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Subpargamer said: So much butthurt in this thread... Bet you're a Blade Cancer lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subpargamer Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Just now, DankDuck1 said: Bet you're a Blade Cancer lol... I don't know what a blade cancer is... but i do have a blade dancer, along with a kfm, destro, fm and sin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DankDuck1 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Subpargamer said: I don't know what a blade cancer is... but i do have a blade dancer, along with a kfm, destro, fm and sin Well, at least you play a variety of cancers. characters* I mean characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subpargamer Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 1 minute ago, DankDuck1 said: Well, at least you play a variety of cancers. characters* I mean characters. Don't worry, when i pass you in pvp ranking, i'll be sure to smile and say hi! I'll make sure to do it on all the characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DankDuck1 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Subpargamer said: Don't worry, when i pass you in pvp ranking, i'll be sure to smile and say hi! I'll make sure to do it on all the characters. It's just a prank bro! No seriously though that comment was *cricket*ing gr8 m8. and I was joking about my last comment, the only classes I'm butthurt about rn are scummoner, blade cancer, and destroyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subpargamer Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Only class i know out of that group is destroyer, are these classes that are going to get added? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DankDuck1 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Subpargamer said: Only class i know out of that group is destroyer, are these classes that are going to get added? Yeah bruh, planned for release in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subpargamer Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Just now, DankDuck1 said: Yeah bruh, planned for release in 2012. Sounds like a plan, look forward to trying them out and seeing what all the crying is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DankDuck1 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Subpargamer said: Sounds like a plan, look forward to trying them out and seeing what all the crying is about. I'll make sure to wave back when you pass me by. I got a nice glass of salt here for you too, I produced it all myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subpargamer Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, DankDuck1 said: I'll make sure to wave back when you pass me by. I got a nice glass of salt here for you too, I produced it all myself. That'll go very nicely with the steak i am going to cook, thank you for being so thoughtful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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