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From the Silverfrost patch page. Anybody have any idea what this actually refers to? Did they just fix some typos and subtitles not aligning to what's being said in the voiceovers? Or did they actually correct the poor translation of the source material anywhere?

Still unfixed as of the recent major patch. Any news on this yet?

If you follow the links Grimoir you'll find out that this is not the case, which is why I posted this. It's not working and costumer support has given us mixed messages. Thus I'm hoping the mods see this so they can perhaps obtain some correct information for us and otherwise inform the right people so it can be fixed. Having a faulty mail system in this day and age, such a basic component of any MMO, does not speak well for the quality of your product. It would serve both them and us if it was resolved.

This, unsurprisingly, got utterly washed away by the Warlock patch when I posted it. So now that the forum is calmer I'd like to bring it up again as it is still an issue which has not been addressed.

Could we have an official response on how the pay wall with mail is supposed to work and if anything is being worked on? It says you need to charge up Ncoins at least once for it to work, but this process is currently bugged and a fair number of people who've charged up haven't been able to unlock their mail. Also, in the official blade and soul support article about mailing which you can find here, it states that "you can send mail to your alternate characters on the same account without restriction." This also doesn't work. So some folks made a thread about it in the bug forum here and have put in tickets regarding the matter. And that's where it gets confusing. Some of the people from costumer support have replied saying you need to meet certain requirements before you can mail to alts which is untrue as it still doesn't work when you meet these requirements and others say you aren't capable of mailing to alts at all without charging Ncoin first. There has also been mention that they are aware of the issue and it's currently being fixed. A complete batch of mixed responses. Would be ace if someone could actually do a proper check with the right people on what's up and let us know. It's really rather annoying that I cannot mail things between my own characters. Buying Ncoins is not at all a guarantee that you will unlock the mail either at present and frankly it's ridiculous that the mailing system is locked to begin with for an account that's been active for years on a daily basis and has spend a fair amount of money in the past.

Got a similar response from Hime in another thread about this. It's here if you want to look it up. Note how they both mention the skill descriptions but aside from that only use terms such as "localisation" and "other areas". That could then also mean a better launcher for the NA/EU game. That's essentially localisation as well. It's like asking if any work will be done on the pavement in the street you live in and they reply "We're currently working on the bridge three blocks over, and after that we'll continue work on parts of the neighbourhood." Yea that's nice, but what about my pavement? For all I know that will never get touched. You don't instill any trust in your company and its credibility that way. Though honestly it's not entirely their fault. They are constantly on thin ice. If they'd mention anything that could be seen as a promise to work on a specific part of the localisation and for whatever reasons plans change or they were mistaken they and the company will get lynched. And it comes back to haunt them at their job review. The fact that they have to cover themselves and basically can't say anything useful unless they are utterly and totally sure what they say is something that will happen, is because of their clients, the playerbase. You've seen these forums I'm going to guess. Rife with, frankly, socially inept folk who consider their own views to be the only possible correct ones, intolerant of anyone else's mere existence. Whatever the moderator crowd here does, they will get someone telling them off. And don't forget they are just messengers. They have nothing to do with the game's development in any way so it's even harder for them to know what will and won't happen until it's set in stone. This is naturally only my view on things, but from what I've seen NCSoft doesn't care about making quality games. They only care about making money. So being acknowledged won't do anything as they don't inherently care about a better product. As long as it's good enough to keep a certain amount of people around to spend money on their cash shop it works out for them. Heck I reckon a good number of NCSoft employees don't even really know what games are about and how they work. The developers that work under them can take care of such matters. Thus the only way we'll get any storyline translation improvements, as in not cutting content and giving correct and unmodified translations with access to Korean voice packs or otherwise good English voice packs, is if enough people complain about it and it becomes more viable for them to spend money on making it better than it does saving the money and letting some of the playerbase go. And the mod team won't tell us about it until they are fully certain these changes will happen cause otherwise it's their head that rolls.

You have the place all to yourself? I wish I had your luck. I play the game almost entirely solo anyway.

All right, thanks for the input.

Do you happen to have any idea if it's possible to acquire the EN1 version and mod that into the game client side just like you can with voice packs? I honestly have little faith in NCSoft ever translating the game properly so might as well see what I can get done myself.

I'm glad I use a Korean Voice pack. They should really just include the Japanese and Korean voice packs officially as an option for those who want it which, from what I've seen, are quite a fair number of people. To keep game data down they could make it so that those packs are only downloaded when selected. Sure what's being said in those voice overs won't line up with the bad translation efforts in our version but it's still highly preferable to having to listen to the English voice pack. Also that's "easily" solved by doing a proper translation of the storyline and replacing the unneeded dialogue alterations we have now.

Certainly Shuchin, I don't argue that. Just saying we'll probably need a good number of people who feel the same as we do before story elements and voice acting are addressed.

I did mention this on the previous page actually. Questionable quality aside, the lack of voice overs caused by generally only giving the yellow quest characters a voice, who sometimes even have lines missing, clearly shows how little effort went into voice localisation. I've put a link to the Dojo forums in that previous post for those wanting to give the Korean, or even Japanese, voice pack a whirl. I doubt it's an ongoing process though Shuchin. They put a minimum amount of resources in for a reason. Unless the game is successful financially here in the west I don't think they'll invest more into localisation matters. And even then they'll probably keep it to stuff like the skill translations which affect everyone and not spend money on a relatively small group of players who don't agree with their story translation and voice work. For that to happen we'd have to have far more people agree with us and voice their opinion here.

I suppose they deemed the quest with Wubaiku too plain and figured they'd spice it up, making it awful in the process. I just feel cheated out of a proper story that explores the Korean culture and mythology and isn't trying to be sensationalist.

I've replied about this in several threads now so I'll just mention here what I said elsewhere. They are shooting themselves in the foot with putting the wardrobe in the premium benefits. Right now it's just a lure to get people to buy premium but at the same time it stops a fair number of those who aren't interested in premium from buying cash shop costumes. This because there isn't any place to store them as the inventory and vault doesn't realistically have any room for collectibles. That's why the wardrobe was created in the first place. On top of that they take away one of the reasons for people to keep grinding places at end game. Namely collecting outfits. Which is a big thing in this game for a good number of players, like you folks in this thread here. They could just not do that, and make premium interesting in other ways that doesn't impede the will to play or buy cash shop items from part of their playerbase. I'd settle for a one time unlock on the cash shop for the wardrobe however as it doesn't have to be free. But paying a subscription for it is really unattractive. Then again paying a subscription used to mean you had access to the entire game, and not just a few measly bonuses and one or two locked features whilst you still have to content with cash shops.