Jump to content
Forums

Onbekend

Members
 View Profile  See their activity

  • Posts

    276

  • Joined

  • Last visited

 Content Type 

Posts posted by Onbekend

    Which outfit would you like to see back to the shop?

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    1 hour ago, MassiveEgo said:

    Let's assume I'm a collector as well. How do you suppose I should collect the grand phoenix set at this point in time (I don't really like it tbh, but roll with it for the sake of the argument), especially after it has been made eligible for coloring? Any bright ideas? We are talking about pixels in a game, which is supposed to be enjoyed by everybody. Availability is key for costumes and that's that

    One thing collectors like, is to have something very limited. Since you're basically asking for all limited things to be made common, I doubt you are, or even understand, what a collector is.

    Which outfit would you like to see back to the shop?

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    11 hours ago, MassiveEgo said:

    Why are you still here when Night Luna and the Convus are in the game? Do you realize that the fact they were "un-uniqued" and you still being here to argue makes your whole argument look like just a pretense?

    Also there are things which you possess (at least I hope you do) which make you unique - your skills with your characters. You can be the most dull looking player in the game, but everybody that ran with you will remember you if you're really good at what you do. And what BnS is about is beating enemies with your mastery over your skills in combat (gear doesn't need mastery so it's just means to an end), not mastery of your costume. The costume won't make you a god. At most it'll cause envy and ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ people off. Do you want people to be ****ed off and envious in a game cause of your fleeting exclusivity demand? Remember. Some of these people never had the opportunity to get that costume cause they simply were not here when that "one time exclusive offer" happened. And considering we don't get such "good" costumes (I wouldn't call Grand Phoenix good, it's just less mediocre) as often as you say (more like one outfit of this intricacy once a year)

     

    Do you know why the french revolution happened? Exactly this thought train of exclusivity was the reason.

     

    Costume tax for the topic - Harvest Moon is also one that I'd most likely get if it pops up.

    I'm sure I'll be beheaded by guillotine for wanting a few outfits to remain unique.

     

    I don't understand the Night Luna/Regium Corvus example. You're arguing that, since 2 uncommon outfits were made common again, there's no reason to argue other uncommon outfits should stay uncommon?

     

    Wearing a unique outfit doesn't rule out skill. Those can go hand in hand very well.

     

    We're asking for maybe half a dozen outfits to remain exclusive. Stop acting like we're asking to only allow other people to wear the hongmoon uniform. We're collectors, and we like having at least 1 or 2 rare things. Sorry for not suiting your utopia.

    • Like 1

    Which outfit would you like to see back to the shop?

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    10 hours ago, MassiveEgo said:

    1. They already gave away an originally limited item in a giveaway, so consider that sentiment ignored.

    Grand phoenix was a limited time offer pretty much like 99% of all the other costumes (or costume sets) that popped in and out of the store. Also your suggestion means we would never see anything that we saw in the past;

    2. Hard pressing people to purchase under the pretext that it will never come to the shop ever, is how you get fashionistas to hate you;

    As a fashionista, I completely agree with Raid. I would rather miss out on a cool set or 2, than play a game where every outfit is common.

    [Suggestion] Other ways to obtain Swordsman's hat

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    5 hours ago, Dereon said:

    Sorry but your opinion is somewhat invalid.. How many people spent hundreds of gold of mats to get from baleful 1 to raven 9 back then? Do you realize how much different upgrade paths with alternate cheaper mats that are significantly less today?  I started playing since beta and I still dont have that hat. and it was apart of my dream costume for this game. I gave up on that because I have a life that also needs my attention. I even told myself that they must have removed it from the loot list.
    So if your advice is to farm more for it it.. you're crazy.. Tower has too many unnecessary loading screen and unstoppable useless npc dialog.

    Ah yes, as we all know, weapons and cosmetics hold the same value. It's not like one of these 2 is literally needed to make any progress past lv55.

     

    My opinion is rare things should stay rare. I don't see how weapon upgrades getting cheaper makes that invalid. Weapons/gold/mats aren't rare. 

    [Suggestion] Other ways to obtain Swordsman's hat

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    11 hours ago, Pekingduckman said:

    The sense of entitlement is strong with this one, but I'm glad that Bethany proved you wrong. And I spent 120 runs on Infinite Challenge, 200+ boxes on Wild Horse and Bully Wrap, 98 runs on the Obsidian Serpent set, 70 runs on Secret Agent, and 88 runs on Junghado's gear, but you don't see me saying that just because I spent a long time farming, everyone else must too. Spending hours killing the same boss for a minuscule drop is not fun, it's a waste of time which not everyone has. And considering that none of the costumes are bound to account, what if you also want it for an alt? What then?

     

    And FYI, in the Korean version of BNS, all dungeon cosmetics can be bought via the achievement merchant with 10 runs of a dungeon, making the grind in the NA version even more pointless.

    Agreeing with the opposite side doesn't prove me wrong.

     

    Having 4000 kills to get an rng drop and wanting other players to have it in 10 kills, also doesn't prove me wrong. Good for you, are you a saint? Some people, including myself, want to wear actual "rare" items. 300 warrior tokens is the opposite of rare.

     

    If you want it on an alt you can get it again. Did I need to answer that?

     

    And FYI, this isn't KR. People in the west care way more about fashion and rareness.

     

    I don't care about how selfish I sound. Humans like rare things. Whether it's meeting a celeb, owning a limited edition car, or spotting an uncommon bird. Humans like rare things, and I like to keep rare things rare.

    Please add Wild Horse and Bully Wrap to Achievement Merchant

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    4 hours ago, Spyroxion said:

    You see, thing is, as I said before, I have my self infinite challenge, swordsman hat, obsidian serpent outfit and black veil (these 2 are also hard and painful to get), got red mask from farming and it just shows nothing. Why? because it's RNG. No one knows how many runs I did for those outfits, how much patience it cost me, heck I was farming Obsidian serpent with black veil and Infinite challenge back in lvl 45 cap on BM who has pretty much weakest PvE class at that moment while now its farming few buttons and dead. Furthermore, while one farms his behind off, other gets in 1-2 runs. Like one of my friends who quit BnS ages ago and doesn't care about game at all, got swordsman hat in about 5 runs while I started my farm on first night of Mushins Tower release and got it like a week ago. It would be one thing if it was hard and tedious to get but it's 100% but it is completely different thing when it is hard and tedious and it's RNG.

     

    So to sum up, fancy outfit doesn't show your hard work because no one knows if you got it in 1 or in 1000 runs.

     

    P.S.: don't get me wrong, I do enjoy using rare cosmetics, especially Black Veil, don't remember last time I saw someone using it, however, I wouldn't mind if others could obtain it more easily (and i bet that only old school players knows how to farm for it).

    That's why I said (likely).

    Please add Wild Horse and Bully Wrap to Achievement Merchant

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    2 hours ago, Spyroxion said:

    Oh hey look another "I already have this so go and enjoy this pain as well" person.  How you guys simply do not understand the concept of MMORPG and outdated continent. In decently published MMORPG old continent stuff should be easier to get than was before. You know how hard it was back in the day to get True Scorpio weapon + true boss accs? Then later on Baleful/Seraph? You had to grind  A LOT to get them. Now Baleful/Seraph is 5 Naryu Silver. So what? It was inevitable that it would happen as with the time it got outdated. 

     

    And I am outfit farmer my self, I am proud of Infinite Challenge, Obsidian Serpent outfit, Black Veil, Red Mask, Swordsmans hat, for some of them I did hundreds and hundreds of runs like boi.... And if they would have add now them to achievement vendor - I wouldn't mind - let people go and get them, I would know for my self that I farmed them and got them in that way and I would have been proud, no one would care but I am playing for my self and not to prove someone that at some point RNG blessed me and dropped the cosmetic. And the main thing it is RNG, people might be farming 12hrs a day, every day for entire year and not get certain piece since it is RNG + outdated continent that no one does. Let people be happy, this game is already sad enough.

    Nice, you don't care about being unique, or showing (likely) evidence of hard work. Others, such as myself, do want this.

     

    As I said in the post about the Swordsman Hat, this hat, Bully Wrap+Wild Horse, and Infinite Challenge are probably the last remaining of actually "rare" cosmetics (since even Spider Fang, Red Mask and High Dragon set have been in trove, making them not as rare). You've said that you personally wouldn't also ask for the other 3 items, but now we're a few days further and in the last 7 days, all of these 4 items have had an active topic, asking to make these easy to get.

     

    So on this topic too, I will ask, what will remain for the people who want to wear a "rare" outfit? At this rate, it would be nothing..

     

    Should we also make the season winners outfits from 1v1, 6v6, toi, and outlaw, basically free to get? Because screw people who put effort into things, right? (Keep p2w and wintrading in a different topic)

    [Suggestion] Other ways to obtain Swordsman's hat

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Spyroxion said:

    I am not saying cosmetic is outdated, Tower it self is outdated 1 to 7f with all these doors and npc talking after each boss. And I am not a clan leader nor I have the clan leader always online. 

    And no I do not need to "complain" about others because as I said, other can be farmed in a normal way, not with 95% of what you doing is waiting and loading (because boss fight lasts what? 2-5 secs?).

    Ask your clan leader about rank permissions.

     

    And the example I gave, Zaiwei Ruins, is more waiting than you can imagine. Plus, it's very difficult to solo. So if you're alone there, gl farming.

    [Suggestion] Other ways to obtain Swordsman's hat

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Outdated? Junghado's hat is one of the most timeless cosmetics in the game. And once again, that "one cosmetic" is one in maybe 5. And if this gets an alternative, you go to complain about Zaiwei Ruins cosmetics needing an alternative, etc.

     

    By the way, you can put a clan teleport in front of the entrance, upstairs. 1 less loading screen. Buy a few 5f tickets and you'll only meet 2 of these doors. So that issue is solved now.

    [Suggestion] Other ways to obtain Swordsman's hat

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    5 hours ago, SalemK said:

    Some of your responses come off that way as if people that don't have it, haven't tried to work for it. Like this one that you tell the OP:

    Also just because someone farmed for it doesn't mean they necessarily "worked for it:, as I said before some people get it on their first try. What about those of us that farmed for a cosmetic for months and still haven't gotten anything? That's why there needs to be an alternative option. Bad enough all the new cosmetics that people want are being put into rng but now you mean to tell me I can't get an ingame outfit within a reasonable time frame as well. I'm a huge cosmetic collector so I don't mind farming but again the line has to be drawn somewhere.

    The main post says he has done 500+ runs. Me being aware of that should already disprove that I assume he hasn't worked for it.

    5 hours ago, Spyroxion said:

    Enjoy? I am sorry but I can not get this cosmetic for what now, over 2 years while some people get from few runs? And I have even now deal with so much time waste on doors and loading screens n stuff like that and it doesn't drop. So you want to say person who got from 8th run deserves but me who is trying for years to get I don't? It needs alternative man. I want to enjoy cosmetic, but I can't because it doesn't drop and there is NO alternative.

    And yes, some people get stuff on their first attempt (if you can even call it an attempt). That's RNG. You probably got something on one of your first attempts as well sometime. What's are you trying to say? Nobody should get stuff on their first attempt? (Also, someone who got it after 500 runs is more proud to have it, than someone with 8 runs.)

     

    Also, that wall of text didn't answer my question in any way, so I'll ask again: why don't we leave some rare cosmetics as they are: rare. Every game has cosmetics with a 0.1% (or lower) dropchance. Why get rid of all of these in B&S?

    [Suggestion] Other ways to obtain Swordsman's hat

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    1 hour ago, SalemK said:

    Why assume that those who are asking for another way to get the item haven't farmed for it and just not gotten it? Nothing wrong with having an alternative option to get things. I remember when I farmed dreadtide arena for months for infinite challenge, hours a day and still never got it so I gave up. Meanwhile others brag about getting it on a first try or 10 tries. I didn't mind farming but after months of doing it and having no sense of progress it gets redundant. So atleast have an achievement for kills or items that drop from the boss itself to exchange for the outfits.

    Never assumed that. I'm just against making all rare cosmetics common, as I said before. Why can't there be any cosmetics left for farmers to enjoy?

    [Suggestion] Other ways to obtain Swordsman's hat

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    16 minutes ago, Spyroxion said:

    A reason for "no" would be? 

    It's an old continent, it has no profit in it, "farming" it is spending time in loading screens and wait time for doors to open (unlike 9+ floors where you can instantly after fight go through the gate). I don't really see a reason for no, but if you have please state why.

    Dozens of people spent hours/days on farming this. You're now asking it to be free. Everybody has 1250 Achievement Points, and gold+fabrics are nothing. I'm tired of people wanting to make every cosmetic that farmers can be proud of, a worthless item everyone can just get by paying a 5 minute visit to the achievement vendor.

     

    The profit you ask for is the hat. Also, Junghado actually has a decent chance of dropping an Elysian Orb. That's profit, too.

     

    Anyways, unless you find a way to compensate the people who spent weeks, or months, farming to get it, it shouldn't be given away for free.

    (Because both options you gave are basically no different than giving it away for 1 copper.)

     

    You want something? Work for it.

    Can there be a return of Dreadtide Weapons?

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    F5 is cross server. Only region (NA/EU) has a different marketplace. Your personal experiences with outfits being released in merchant not only are irrelevant to this conversation, but I've had the exact same experience as well. And you're asking for it to happen again.

     

    Also, I don't care if its 5k, 10k, or 10 tags. The value will drop either way. Everybody has an equally fair chance to get this as I did, so you can stop calling it unfair.

  • © 2020 NCSOFT Corporation. All rights reserved. All trademarks are the property of their respective owners.
×
×
  • Create New...