Remove Multitool

[sojaa]

10 minutes ago, Cupidstar said:

 

Those ARE cheating.

 

 

 

Multitool should only be blamed for the GCD edits, which can be done super easily by anyone who can read.

 

 

 

 

I totally agree with you.

 

Listen you do know what multi client is? Hmm might be a way you can open multiple toons? Noo I didn't think I seen multi client used for win trading. Not in bg or arena never ever said no one. I see all the time in combo with cheat engine. 3rd party tool is against terms and I see it used to pilot all the time which also goes against terms and agreements. You sign that contract every time you log. Right there your breaking multiple rules. You should read because no where ever, according to the rules will you be right. Its there in writing. Is the game publisher lying to you? Or are you trying to justify doing wrong because its easier. I mean do I need to post the user agreement or no?

 

[Cupidstar]

2 minutes ago, sojaa said:

Listen you do know what multi client is?

 

Lol... OFC  I do!

It's to allow more than 1 user to login at the same time, or to allow the same used to login to EU and NA at the same time.

 

 

3 minutes ago, sojaa said:

Noo I didn't think I seen multi client used for win trading. Not in bg or arena never ever said no one.

 

Nice sarcasm.......

Yes, that's the wintrading part. You don't need multi client to do that.

 

 

4 minutes ago, sojaa said:

I see all the time in combo with cheat engine.

 

Uh ... Ok?

 

 

5 minutes ago, sojaa said:

3rd party tool is against terms and I see it used to pilot all the time which also goes against terms and agreements.

 

Oh yeah, that's AutoHotKey. Maybe a custom-made program in C++, C# or Python.

 

 

6 minutes ago, sojaa said:

You sign that contract every time you log.

 

Jokes on you, you can bypass that contract on login.

 

 

7 minutes ago, sojaa said:

Right there your breaking multiple rules. You should read because no where ever, according to the rules will you be right. Its there in writing.

 

Obviously the agreement won't say that 3rd party launchers are their lifeline to keep the game running.

That's the type of stuff that the community managers say in the background, without letting the public know.

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, sojaa said:

Is the game publisher lying to you?

 

Yes! Everytime a community manager says they are listening to our feedback or says they are investigating cheating videos, they are lying.

 

 

9 minutes ago, sojaa said:

Or are you trying to justify doing wrong because its easier.

 

I've been using the 100% vanilla launcher.

It is horrible, but I've been using it.

 

You thought you would get me there, didn't you!?

Well, YOU DIDN'T GOT ME!

 

[sojaa]

7 hours ago, Cupidstar said:

 

Lol... OFC  I do!

It's to allow more than 1 user to login at the same time, or to allow the same used to login to EU and NA at the same time.

 

 

 

Nice sarcasm.......

Yes, that's the wintrading part. You don't need multi client to do that.

 

 

 

Uh ... Ok?

 

 

 

Oh yeah, that's AutoHotKey. Maybe a custom-made program in C++, C# or Python.

 

 

 

Jokes on you, you can bypass that contract on login.

 

 

 

Obviously the agreement won't say that 3rd party launchers are their lifeline to keep the game running.

That's the type of stuff that the community managers say in the background, without letting the public know.

 

 

 

 

Yes! Everytime a community manager says they are listening to our feedback or says they are investigating cheating videos, they are lying.

 

 

 

I've been using the 100% vanilla launcher.

It is horrible, but I've been using it.

 

You thought you would get me there, didn't you!?

Well, YOU DIDN'T GOT ME!

 

You have a funny way of thinking lol. Do you use this logic in everything you do? So, you're upset about your reports going unheard right? You're going to defend something that is seen as cheating because you believe it's not cheating and that it in fact helps the games survival. Well buddy people's terms of cheating sometimes exceed your standards. Just because you think you're right don't mean others think you're right. I mean you can go stream on twitch. I'll come watch. Just make sure you're using that 3rd party app that's saving the game. Also, I want you to stream everything its capable of. Since it is not used for cheating and all. You act like I've never seen multi tool lmfao or don't see it on a daily. Every match in battlegrounds last night there was 4 drops on the other team or my team due to 1 person. It's been like that since before patch (A very long time). Same guy. Then that same person speed hacked right to the horn and placed it on his point. Hmm that's not multitool or pvp breaking, is it? Naw not at all. Must be the wind. You know what give this forum more views keep talking I'll gladly humor you being a troll. You can state whatever you want about the tool because I mean all you are doing is giving people who review this forum information. It is a tool that can be used to cheat and more often than not it is used in that manor. You've even stated it multiple times with the addition of there's other ways to cheat. Which is exactly what I want and what this forum was intended to do. Your brain is going to travel to this, so I'll stop you before you even state it. When I play a game, I come to the forums to review if I want to play that game. Soon as that forum shows me that there is unpunished cheating being proven I'll look for another game. Guess what others that do too that's why there is absolutely a falling community. This is not to show the employees of the WEST. Rather to show legit game players who have standards against cheating. I mean most common concept amongst gamers is they prefer not to cheat. That is a fact otherwise they wouldn't have bans or rules even in any game. Dear future player if you are reading this scroll through this forum and decide if it's worth your time. It's not a fair game nor is it a cheat free game. Pay to win wall allowed for people to accept hacking because they are trying to level the playing field and reduce grinding times. Like the game shouldn't have an end game grind. There is trade winning which is people losing on purpose to one another to increase their rank. There are speed hacks and moon jumps. There are ways like gcd to increase your damage. There is abused bugs that are being sold that allows you to get more gear for a price. Multiple hack engines are used, and some are accepted as a way of life in this game. This forum proves that, and this was the point. Thanks to everyone who has participated and interacted. Thanks for all your views as well and your time. Please post here in the forums and nothing will ever be done. Submit a ticket and itll take eons for them to review.

[Cupidstar]

58 minutes ago, sojaa said:

You have a funny way of thinking lol. Do you use this logic in everything you do? So, you're upset about your reports going unheard right? You're going to defend something that is seen as cheating because you believe it's not cheating and that it in fact helps the games survival. Well buddy people's terms of cheating sometimes exceed your standards. Just because you think you're right don't mean others think you're right. I mean you can go stream on twitch. I'll come watch. Just make sure you're using that 3rd party app that's saving the game. Also, I want you to stream everything its capable of. Since it is not used for cheating and all. You act like I've never seen multi tool lmfao or don't see it on a daily. Every match in battlegrounds last night there was 4 drops on the other team or my team due to 1 person. It's been like that since before patch (A very long time). Same guy. Then that same person speed hacked right to the horn and placed it on his point. Hmm that's not multitool or pvp breaking, is it? Naw not at all. Must be the wind. You know what give this forum more views keep talking I'll gladly humor you being a troll. You can state whatever you want about the tool because I mean all you are doing is giving people who review this forum information. It is a tool that can be used to cheat and more often than not it is used in that manor. You've even stated it multiple times with the addition of there's other ways to cheat. Which is exactly what I want and what this forum was intended to do. Your brain is going to travel to this, so I'll stop you before you even state it. When I play a game, I come to the forums to review if I want to play that game. Soon as that forum shows me that there is unpunished cheating being proven I'll look for another game. Guess what others that do too that's why there is absolutely a falling community. This is not to show the employees of the WEST. Rather to show legit game players who have standards against cheating. I mean most common concept amongst gamers is they prefer not to cheat. That is a fact otherwise they wouldn't have bans or rules even in any game. Dear future player if you are reading this scroll through this forum and decide if it's worth your time. It's not a fair game nor is it a cheat free game. Pay to win wall allowed for people to accept hacking because they are trying to level the playing field and reduce grinding times. Like the game shouldn't have an end game grind. There is trade winning which is people losing on purpose to one another to increase their rank. There are speed hacks and moon jumps. There are ways like gcd to increase your damage. There is abused bugs that are being sold that allows you to get more gear for a price. Multiple hack engines are used, and some are accepted as a way of life in this game. This forum proves that, and this was the point. Thanks to everyone who has participated and interacted. Thanks for all your views as well and your time. Please post here in the forums and nothing will ever be done. Submit a ticket and itll take eons for them to review.

*Yawn* TL;DR please?

[LynMasterRace]

3 hours ago, sojaa said:

boring stuff

As already outlined in this thread, NCSoft does have the means to stop Multi Tool and BNS Buddy, but that would do little to stop cheating. It would stop CASUALLY doing so, but there's already ways to do it without even installing either. The only solution would be the often quoted server side validation, which will never happen.

[Cupidstar]

1 hour ago, LynMasterRace said:

As already outlined in this thread, NCSoft does have the means to stop Multi Tool and BNS Buddy, but that would do little to stop cheating. It would stop CASUALLY doing so, but there's already ways to do it without even installing either. The only solution would be the often quoted server side validation, which will never happen.

 

Exactly. And those who don't cheat at all would be greatly affected as well.

Like, people who want to play the game with a decent launcher.

 

[sojaa]

4 hours ago, LynMasterRace said:

As already outlined in this thread, NCSoft does have the means to stop Multi Tool and BNS Buddy, but that would do little to stop cheating. It would stop CASUALLY doing so, but there's already ways to do it without even installing either. The only solution would be the often quoted server side validation, which will never happen.

How about they do it all. Including and up to enforcing all rules with a indefinite ban policy. Then maybe they can focus on optimization after. How about we agree on that?  Server-side validation and enforcement. Then optimization with player feedback.  Hire someone with some balls to do something.

[Cupidstar]

1 hour ago, sojaa said:

Then maybe they can focus on optimization after.

 

They still would need to fix UE4, to match UE3 in terms of functionality.

 

They have their plate full of bugs that they didn't fix, yet.

 

[sojaa]

I seen it all just a min ago on a stream. Game guard is easy to bypass. Also 95 percent of the community is using multitool because they believe "its a way of life" because thats what they are told. Reasons why to keep multitool. We have a hacker community and bns has allowed it because it will totally demolish their player base greatly. They cannot do anything because they would have to ban the whole community in NA and EU. Most people who post on here to try and stop me from having a voice are the same people on multiple forum accounts . The honest truth is they are lying to keep this going. This is a tactic that they are using to beat your moderators and avoid bans. They keep spreading knowledge on how to hack so its accepted. I watched a stream of how all this is being done. All of which I know by name now. So all you people who believe your good should never have lost to me. I just seen you all. Some big names in there with people that are leading these clans. Even an ocean admin on discord is doing this. people who say they are not using multi tool for hacking. GCD all the way down to your MS you can mess with via tool. Example I have 34 ms so I could drop my value down to -0.1 or if i had 200 I could drop my ms and ping values to 0.5. So think on that reaction time vs your real ms and ping. This is where they will call it fair and leveling the playing field. Unless you're a legit player. Its basically having an ms of 0. In combination with cheat engine they can outburst of perform you on the only skill they have. Its not fair or legit in anyway. They must enjoy the Sound Of Our Chaos. There is no way a legit using true ms and ping can fight someone or pve the same using multitool fairly.  Also giving that company a horrible name. They are just going to make this Iconic. Which comes to my next Laughy. I've never used any of this and these people die using whale accounts combined with multitool and cheat engine and still think they can pvp. No wonder Thats poor and you're not earning hm coins. You're stealing from a company and its players. I've never in my life stolen from bns community either so. Its all one Puff away from me blowing this up on a reddit with videos. I must just be a Bork. Its like they believe that have Divinity over you. Also giving that company a horrible name. You guys have placed this company in a hard spot and legit players are spamming tickets like mad. All they do is remove the stuff your hacks are abusing instead of you. What good is multitool without the bypass on anti-cheat? Remove Game Guard and get a different kernel level Anti cheat. I have a solution that is cheap and affordable. It will cause massive dmg to the hacking community as a whole, It'll remove the cancer that seeped its way into Blade and Soul. It'll have to recover. People who want to see this game improve should quit using multitool and cheat engine. You'll suffer ms wise and for that I am sorry. I see whole discords that have moved on from bns.  Review this carefully.

[LynMasterRace]

1 hour ago, sojaa said:

 Remove Game Guard and get a different kernel level Anti cheat.

I refuse to install a kernel level anti cheat over concerns of privacy.

[unf]

any pearl clutchers in chat?

[Amane]

3 hours ago, LynMasterRace said:

I refuse to install a kernel level anti cheat over concerns of privacy.

 

And also are very overrated, because it takes competent people behind these kernel level anticheats to make them work efficiently. 

 

There's 2 games right now with a kernel anticheat, one is doing very well, the other one is in shambles with the amount of cheaters running around after finally adding anticheat... people might know the latter mentioned game. 

[swordin]

i just want to put on the record that being so deterministic is really bad for your health and mentality, furthermore: when i referenced past technical problems and then the consequences of cheating, 1 i dont have problems ever, back when i was using a really old comp in the first year or two i had GPU trouble that maybe caused one problem i had to simply try again before another period of relatively flawless gameplay before the gpu quit; and 2 the referred consequences are the way cheating kills your perspective, like if you pirate digital media youll never come to terms with the actual value of what you stole and from the system of reciprocal feedback for the developers, artists, and everyone else involved in the payroll which is more valuable than the monetary debt, money is a crutch true but since its still here it should never be divorced from the system that is all these artists have to support their well being.

 

arts will always be more about the love than about the capitalistic potentials, but if these thieves and corruptors continue bypassing components that are crucial to the system, the system has to adapt and that adaptation scars the art-form in a horrific and permanent manner, which draws power from the system away from natural growth, and before long the original idea of natural growth is contorted by all these tertiary aspects to support the core of the system which shouldnt have been necessary in the first place.

 

those beings corrupting and thieving will have to stop, itd just be better for everyone involved if they made the realization for themselves before its too late, and its true there are multiple tiers to being “too late” so even if you fatalistically think hopelessness, let me remind you that making better choices does have immediate returns.