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I just looked over the patchnotes and i just want to know some things.

 

1. Reaver Reinforcement Package: Its supposed to give a start to your new character but you get a free lvl 60 ticket. Do you know what you get from story ? This packet is useless its giving worse stuff than story. I cant think of any way this could be useful to anyone dosent matter how long the player is in this game its useless.

 

2. 1x free lvl 60 ticket: for anyone no matter how old the account is. Looking at the state of pvp thats the last thing that should be done ! we already have a huge huge problem with wintraders with this ticket everyone can create several accounts. Wintrading is not hard you just need more accounts. ive seen people in plat that would never even gotten to gold rank in the times we still had alot of players.

 

3. Reaver Support Package: not even VT Badge and a soul badge thats totally useless aswell. such a package is supposed to help out new chars so give them atleast 1 tier above what you get in story ! For example VT Badge, 1x Legendary Soul badge chest..........

 

4. Tringular non Hongmoon gems ? You get quad ones for free in this game then you want us to pay event currency for worse ones ?

 

Like most patches there is so much useless stuff pls stop putting in stuff that might sound nice but have no use at all !

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You can change your mystic/soul badge for basicaly free, so giving you an other one has no purpose. If you dont have badges yet, just do Junghado/Koldrak/Moon refuge for martial tokens and eventualy you'll get them.

A free lv 60 ticket is a great gift. If someone wants to wintrade, they'll just level up an other character anyway, so no point in crying because of it.

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Good gift indeed. Wintrading is the normal now and we cant post videos on the forums to show it. Eventually theyll all move to another game. Hopefully... 

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25 minutes ago, Kicsiduda said:

If you dont have badges yet, just do Junghado/Koldrak/Moon refuge for martial tokens and eventualy you'll get them.

This is my point why would someone need this packet they give us with all this crap if you get same or better stuff right out of story. For VT Badge id need like 20 minutes to get it as a totally new player. This packet is supposed to give us stuff to help progress. Hime even said that in stream.

25 minutes ago, Kicsiduda said:

A free lv 60 ticket is a great gift.

Dont get me wrong i think its a nice gift too but there are no restrictions to it at all. Once we had a free lvl 60 ticket but you had to have an account x ammount of days old to register at all making it way less problematic.

25 minutes ago, Kicsiduda said:

If someone wants to wintrade, they'll just level up an other character anyway, so no point in crying because of it.

Of course but this also includes that the player has to lvl a char like 18 hours beforehand and btw just 2 accounts are not enough to wintrade for most since to get to 1900 your 2nd char needs to be atleast 1750 to find ur 1st char.

 

Most people do not want to boother with another 18 hour story so this is not an option for the majoirty of players. My problem with free lvl 60 is it removes the only obstacle there is to wintrade. We should ban wintraders not support them !

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31 minutes ago, Immunity said:

how to remove wintraders 100%: remove pvp rewards. 

 

the people who like to pvp will do it anyways. 

the people who do pvp only for rewards will not disturb.

 

 

So basically pvpers should be punished because ncsoft is too lazy to do their job and ban cheaters?

Mkay.

 

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34 minutes ago, lillvargen said:

no? but why pamper pvpers? we are enough pvers, we want the same opportunity in pve

There is no need to do pvp at all in this game there is nothing thats being locked from pve while there is litterly everything locked out of pvp so if you want booth to be equal pvp rewards need to be seriously buffed or can you tell me one item thats not avaible in pve but is needed in pve that is availble in pvp ?

 

45 minutes ago, sFMos said:

So basically pvpers should be punished because ncsoft is too lazy to do their job and ban cheaters?

Mkay.

The system i wrote about didnt care if you are pve or pvp it cared about if your account is created before date x meaning you cant just create 1000 new accounts and get free lvl 60 chars. I dont ask them to ban pvpers i ask them to not make it easier to wintrade.

 

1 hour ago, Immunity said:

how to remove wintraders 100%: remove pvp rewards.

I was argueing alot that HM coins are needed to make pvp worth it but at this point id prefer it too if they would remove hm coins from pvp and let us farm non tradable stuff like elysian or a non tradable version of the stones you need to craft oils.

 

This way pvp would still be worth for the players and worthless for the goldsellers.

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16 minutes ago, ImoutoMaster said:

 or can you tell me one item thats not avaible in pve but is needed in pve that is availble in pvp ?

 

how about the Royal Zen bean for skills?

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23 minutes ago, Belido said:

how about the Royal Zen bean for skills?

touche an item you buy once which is farmed in 15 matches. While you have to litterly to do each day your pve dailys to even get some elysians.

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15 hours ago, lillvargen said:

whilst you pvp for hundreds of soulstones and moonstones

Royal Zen Bean was a pain to get for us non pvpers

We have to pve for all my pvp gear except 2 pieces. We have to farm all my mats except bloodstones, soulstones( which i got some 10k of those soulstone crystals through pve).  Means we have to do like 1600 runs for both my pvp/pve gear. I dont want to pve like that. Im sure other people don't either. Moonstones and soulstones are so cheap right now it isnt even funny. Go back 3 years ago. Anyway they cater to pve way more then pvp.  Go look at end gear tree and tell me which one is higher tier. look at pvp vs pve wep.

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17 hours ago, lillvargen said:

whilst you pvp for hundreds of soulstones and moonstones

You cant take Soul stones as an argument since you get it in SSP which yes is pve cause its super rare someone actully does pvp there. Same for Moonstones thoose are farmed way faster via pve than pvp.

17 hours ago, lillvargen said:

Royal Zen Bean was a pain to get for us non pvpers

4.5k beans is nothing compared to like 1800 runs of dollhouse alone.

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what do Zen Beans have to do with dollhouse

and SSP for blue faction is kinda not happening cause red one has taken over the place, actually almost everyone there takes the opportunity to take your faction points by killing you

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19 hours ago, lillvargen said:

what do Zen Beans have to do with dollhouse

Well while PVE people can obtain anything expect the Royal Zen bean which is 4.5k zen beans so around 15 matches maybe, PVP people need to do the following.

 

1. Get good enough PVE Gear to run the latest dungeons imagine you are a pve player and first have to get full pvp gear before entering dungeons would you do it ? 

 

2. Do your runs of the dungeons to get the accesories for example dollhouse has 3 accesories. You need up to 300 runs per accesorie depending on class you need whole stuff or just glove and 2x neck 1 or 2x Ring thats up to 1500 Runs for 1 dungeon alone which is not even giving you ur full stuff so you need to farm other dungeons the same way.

 

I could count somemore but i keep it at that. I am simply annoyed of people complaining they have to farm 1 royal zen bean and say pvp got it better. There is litterly no way someone solely interested into pvp could actully play pvp only while its no problem for pve player without touching pvp at all.

19 hours ago, lillvargen said:

and SSP for blue faction is kinda not happening cause red one has taken over the place, actually almost everyone there takes the opportunity to take your faction points by killing you

Red wants to pve farm there not a single one comes to ssp to pvp but if they see a blue one there is litterly only 1 purpose this player comes there which is to kill some people who just want to pve making the blue hated and hunted down so the risk of some blue attacking gets reduced.

 

Reds simply want to farm there and even if you are a blue who does not want to kill reds how are we supposed to know that ? So its better killing the blues before they can even think about attacking.

 

 

BTW. i am mostly pve player too i dont enjoy pvp since like 2 or 3 seasons but thats not the fault of players its the fault of NCwest.

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