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Ive watched people in my clan do well over 5000 keys (discord stream) so far (1 guy even did 2000) and NOT ONCE did a mixed penta or even just a normal penta come up. WTF?

Twice a mixed square dyad came up in over 5000 keys and like 4 times a square gem came up?

This is ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤. WHY DO YOU ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ block us on gems so much? Even the people who are throwing money cant get them.

I was going to do 200 keys myself but have since decided not to. 

A REGULAR PENTA GEM DIDNT EVEN ONCE SHOW UP IN 5000 Keys WTF? I know a Mixed Dyad Penta is supposed to be super rare but NORMAL PLAIN penta not even showing up once?

We used to get gem powder refunds with new gem tiers, we used to be able to buy gems with gem powder and we cant do that anymore. 

Now you cant even trove for gems? WHY? 5000+ keys 0 pentas... Even the guy who did 2000 keys couldnt even make a single penta from the gems he got.

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Thanks @JonJonPoPong2,

 

Because of you I stopped myself from buying 4000 keys with the money I saved through this lock down. Just checked out some YouTube videos and the rates for high tier items in the trove are horrifying. I was really hoping to get some great gems and hopefully even the soul or heart but now won't even spend a penny on the trove. This trove is a complete waste of time not worth the money, time and effort just to disappoint myself. 

 

And 5000 keys? That's a complete and utter joke. Hopefully people will read this post and be reluctant to spend any money on this trove. Hopefully this will help the company understand we aren't gonna be pushed around anymore and take it. 

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Unicorns   

I have honestly never done a lot of keys, usually 100-200, just for gems and outifts. I've noticed that trend with the recent troves, even triangle and square gems are pretty rare. So this trove i didnt buy keys. Ugly outfits only made it easier. 

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Grimoir   
Posted (edited)

My friend got a penta crit within 200 keys. I did get some square dyads 2 times.

 

either way, fi they can afford 5000 keys, they shouldnt even be needing pentas / penta dyads from trove and rng is still rng.

Altho someone troving specifically for gems should really rethink his life choices.

Edited by Grimoir

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Troving is getting awful everytime they add more and more trash items to it decreasing the rates for higher rewarding items.

Back in the day there was 50 - 75 evolved stones crits now? u don't see those lol.

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Shekinah   

When I see topics like this one I always have to laugh.

Everyone should know that this is a gamble. One is not entitled to win at all ot what they want. Everyone is free to spend money on buying hundreds or even thousands of keys for trove, but you know what you are up to: a GAMBLE

Also I have never heard from someone in Vegas to demand to win for spending a huge amount of money. Or the casino giving them free chips to play some more for that matter...

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What a cry baby.  For every 300 keys you trove, you get a TRADABLE psyche worth 10k, plus a bunch of freebies, which almost paid for keys all by themselves,  and you still want penta.  Talking about fake news.

Edited by pikapikapika

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KzE   

You have better chance to get gems from the classic lootbox.

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I spent 600 keys myself and bought another 300 for friends and none of us saw any penta gems. I did get a single square though. Even the drop rate for sacred vials/oil was terrible. 600 keys and I got maybe 20 vials worth. The cost of the TRADABLE psyche being 8k is worth 100 keys, which SURE, covers 1/3 of the cost, but wtf? How much do I need to spend to finally get some pentas? my mortgage?

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Over 5000 keys and not once did a PLAIN PENTA never mind the dyad show up, thats ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤.

Plain and simple, a less than 1 in 5000 chance? come the ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ on.

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Nemises   
2 hours ago, JonJonPoPong2 said:

Plain and simple, a less than 1 in 5000 chance?

That's not how rng works. As Grimoir said a penta showed up in 200 keys, with your logic that would be a ratio of 1 in 200?

Even if the chance is 1 in 5000 you could spend 15000 keys without seeing one penta, while another person get's it in the first 10 keys, that's how rng works.

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15 hours ago, Shekinah said:

When I see topics like this one I always have to laugh.

Everyone should know that this is a gamble. One is not entitled to win at all ot what they want. Everyone is free to spend money on buying hundreds or even thousands of keys for trove, but you know what you are up to: a GAMBLE

Also I have never heard from someone in Vegas to demand to win for spending a huge amount of money. Or the casino giving them free chips to play some more for that matter...

I just said that same thing. People complain and whine but yet still throw money at this game lol

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Nemises   
13 hours ago, YungBlaze said:

People complain and whine but yet still throw money at this game lol

Yes, there are always some people who will learn their lesson in this game. But there are also addicted ones that will always try on gambling and keep on complaining.

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thank you for funding this game ,appreciate it , but with the money you spent on trove i swear i can easily make 2 characters full gear,gems ,everything only by buying everything in faction and F5. :YeharaBig:

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You have better chance to win at the lottery then getting a pentagonal gem in trove,thats why i stopped playing trove for a long time ago and will never play it again until they make it worth it,right now trove is just a huge scam where many players put alot of money and they dont get anything usseful.

Edited by AdrianWAR

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I agree with OP. Please pass our suggestions to development and adjust the appearance rates of these big name items (pentas/soul/heart/pet aura) since no one would be willing to spend that much on keys any more if future troves are just going to be this bad. I myself personally used 1825~ keys and did not see any of those things, really makes me reconsider whether or not if I will ever buy this many keys on trove again.

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Grimoir   
1 hour ago, CodeCrush said:

I agree with OP. Please pass our suggestions to development and adjust the appearance rates of these big name items (pentas/soul/heart/pet aura) since no one would be willing to spend that much on keys any more if future troves are just going to be this bad. I myself personally used 1825~ keys and did not see any of those things, really makes me reconsider whether or not if I will ever buy this many keys on trove again.

Hell No. Those items are far too good to be just spit out commonly. Trove should not be a freebie source for those items just cause someone can blow a paycheck on them to skip months of grinding.

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Gman   

There is a reason why lootboxes are forbidden in many countries..biggest scam there is.

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Trove just does not worth it. If you use your ncoins to sell premium memberships, you'll come out much better. Or if you only have hmcoins, Vials and premium stones are worth in F10 special offers.

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18 hours ago, CodeCrush said:

I agree with OP. Please pass our suggestions to development and adjust the appearance rates of these big name items (pentas/soul/heart/pet aura) since no one would be willing to spend that much on keys any more if future troves are just going to be this bad. I myself personally used 1825~ keys and did not see any of those things, really makes me reconsider whether or not if I will ever buy this many keys on trove again.

Hell yeah! :D

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Belido   
vor 16 Stunden schrieb Kicsiduda:

Trove just does not worth it. If you use your ncoins to sell premium memberships, you'll come out much better. Or if you only have hmcoins, Vials and premium stones are worth in F10 special offers.

Don't forget the Evolved stones for 15Hcoin each and worth 40+ Gold.

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Since the day of the first treasure trove people complain about: the -> RNG <- rates.... 
the content itself... 
the P2W factor... 
and many other things...

 

It CAN'T be that worse if people still spend thousands and thousands of keys every trove. Again and again.

There must be some advantage (=reason) for them spending that much into it (p2w btw^^). And they seem to be getting it, or they wouldn't be doing it.
RNG is RNG. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

 

It was never different! ;)

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Posted (edited)
On 6/27/2020 at 9:40 AM, Vaizard666 said:

Troving is getting awful everytime they add more and more trash items to it decreasing the rates for higher rewarding items.

Back in the day there was 50 - 75 evolved stones crits now? u don't see those lol.

The point of trove is take your money without giving you anything. It does fulfull it's purpose.

 

@CrazyDude90 It is that worse. When it comes ot this game and it's lootboxes, the chance of getting trash is astronomical. Being lucky is getting a square dyad in 50 keys. Being unlucky is everything above that, since making dyads right now, is basically locked behind this lootbox event. You're not making penta dyads with just playing the game. Not when there's no source for gem powders. Couple that with the fact that each subsequent dyad variety costs a LOT more than the previous dyad, with the fact that old dyads can be converted to newer ones relatively cheaply and are taken out of the transmutation menu so you can't progress gems cheaply and you get to a situation where NC are doing pure p2w - gems are gear pieces afterall. You either buy the necessary gem powders from the store in the rare occasions they're up in daily special, or you trove. There is no situation where NC are not getting cash for the gem upgrades in the game.

Edited by MassiveEgo

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Fynn58   

it's simple .... The people are running the troves like a Carnival with their events and troves rigged to make them the most money and the players loose well over 90% .... it's the seduction of being maybe i can get one if i go once more .....  Bottom line they are the Carney Hucksters with promises of possibility and the players are the "RUBES" playing a trove that is rigged against you.

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Belido   

for the files:

 

keys used: 320 for 335 troves

3 star crits: 2 times

no penta, no square, no dyad gem

3 times HM triangular

in total I don't think there was any loss from using trove, but it wasn't much thrilling either, at least not that much to buy more then 5 NCoin-keys, just for last reward item (DGS).

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