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Noface007

We've finally gone full on p2w boyos!

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HM master scrolls (can buy up to 5)

1 million xp charms

 Wonder Ascension Stones

9 oils 

9 pet pods

Gem Powder pouches

 

"but all these things you can get in the game!"....lul. 

 

This is actually a relief, I can finally officially start looking for a new game. 

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itsthem   

Went pay to win a long time ago, this type of cash in I have only ever seen just before a game closes down.

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2 hours ago, itsthem said:

Went pay to win a long time ago, this type of cash in I have only ever seen just before a game closes down.

Oh everyone knows that, but this is a whole new level, not only P2W none of it is even a good value.

 

It's good though, can finally call it quits, I'm not even gonna try to keep up with this garbage anymore.  

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KzE   
4 hours ago, itsthem said:

Went pay to win a long time ago, this type of cash in I have only ever seen just before a game closes down.

Want to say the same. Its like the final big sale before the end. Many other games did this before the service end.

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Asuramon   

Don't know what's p2w about it. It's available for hongmoon coins too, which I still have 20k leftover from season rewards :HajoonLaugh:

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vor 38 Minuten schrieb Asuramon:

Don't know what's p2w about it. It's available for hongmoon coins too, which I still have 20k leftover from season rewards :HajoonLaugh:

I would agree with that logic if we didnt just had a big ass Tresure thingie Event which most people used their HM coins for. 

 

Now you might say but you can get HM coins even without Season rewards which would be simply false cause gold is by far not worth 1:1 and you cannot sell lower. In addition to that thoose items they sell are either not obtainable at all via free to play or need years or atleast months to obtain. 

 

I dont think i am gonna come back unless UE4 amazes me cause of such practices. I want reasonable ways to farm stuff not gear gated behind real money ! 

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KzE   
22 minutes ago, ImoutoMaster said:

unless UE4 amazes

If a dev cant make a proper coding in UE3, it wont do in UE4.

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Rysa   

Makes me wonder why they bothered posting the producer's letter. When a game goes P2W to such an extent, it's a clear sign it's going to die in a matter of months. Wouldn't even be surprised if they announced servers closure before summer.

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This only reconfirms (in my mind) that we will not be getting a "Frontier" type server, and this game can be added to my "Dead" list.

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Mhiska   
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P2W IN HARD MODE :tmi:

 

 

But they don't care. Blade and soul are being loaded the same way they were loaded aion

 

Shame!!!

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Mhiska   

 

It is the fault of the producer but also of the community that allows the production team to laugh at the people who keep their products alive.

 

No honor No shame.

 

That today is the same page as yesterday in the store, is nothing more than the last statement of the producer, to this type of comments. I AM IMPORTED A ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAYS: We are going towards a p2w salvage and a total abandonment of the game.

 

It was already abandoned, there are no real maintenance, it is an absolute nonsense the bad optimization they show.

 

The community is looking for other horizons, other games for a long time.

 

It is the nshoft cross, they never learned from their mistakes.

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Nemises   

Well it's these times, in which revenue of gaming companies is the only thing that matters. Money is the only language the shareholders speak, the reputation of a company doesn't matter anymore. Sadly it is more economical to develop a MMO, milk it and throw it away than further developing it for a stable or growing community.

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Rich whales just buy gold from gold farmers with their paypal since not even worth it to them to use f9

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kiroasw   

At the end of the day this game is a business like any other business and the aim is to make a income to sustain the business and build upon it, it has a F2p option but the construction, maintenance and development of this business had and will continue to have a cost,

 

would you go to work for free? as wanting every thing in this game to be free is like going to work for free, life does not work in such a way and every thing has a cost,

 

The f2p players can play the game free, by choice, but the business needs to make its income in some way or any business will not survive, they have many costs and over heads that need to be paid like staff and power consumption being basic ones, you think all this is free?

 

It would seem many people who complain about such thing's live in a delusional or ignorant reality constructed by there own mind and perception, from the random f2p player to those like Keroppi and Jarke who make youtube video's and cry about the ''option's'' this game provides to continue this business model that is Blade and Soul the game,

 

And the ''option's'' they offer for IRL money are optional and you have a choice at the end of the day, buy or do not buy it is your choice,

 

I ask again would you go to work for free? can a business be a business with no income to sustain it? 

 

To those who cry, wake up from your disillusioned reality and ignorant mind set, nothing in this world is free even if it has the F2P option that this game does, the need to make an income is still required, possibly even more due to so many F2P players taking and not contributing to the business, how could any business hope to survive if every thing is free?

 

This is why such games like World of Warcraft has never and will never go F2P,

 

So all that being said, if this game and business does fail, it will be due to the F2P option it provides and those who do not contribute to the business at all but expect all thing's for free,

 

Consider all that before you cry about the people who work at the business every day to bring you this game, should they go to work for free? would you? I doubt it very much....

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vor 31 Minuten schrieb kiroasw:

At the end of the day this game is a business like any other business and the aim is to make a income to sustain the business and build upon it, it has a F2p option but the construction, maintenance and development of this business had and will continue to have a cost,

At the end of the day this business decide if they want to destroy the potential of their product or not.

At the end of the day this business decide if it fine managed or not.

At the end of the day the COSTUMER decide if its fine or not. If not its their right to complain and critize it.

 

vor 33 Minuten schrieb kiroasw:

ould you go to work for free? as wanting every thing in this game to be free is like going to work for free, life does not work in such a way and every thing has a cost,

vor 33 Minuten schrieb kiroasw:

Consider all that before you cry about the people who work at the business every day to bring you this game, should they go to work for free? would you? I doubt it very much....

Pretty lame excuses tbh... many games (and even actual games) show that its possible to get managed well with a fine community without totally ignoring them and their problems.

Also the ways to get money out of a game without making the players angry isn't impossible.

 

The problem here: NC$oft dont care about its COM and dont care about unfair advantages... they JUST care about money... no matter how horrible their PRODUCT for us COSTUMERS is.

 

Consider all that before you whiteknight what NC$oft do here. In the end of the day the majority who COULD pay won't pay for a bad product aswell. And instead of changing it NC$oft gets more and more aggressive. They dont want and will ever understand what the western COSTUMERS want/need.

 

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@kiroaswYour way of thinking is what's ruining modern games. There is a big difference between healthy monetization and outright pay to win. Have you seen F10 in the past week? But hey, I guess you can get those items in the game and have that sense of pride and accomplishment, right? Seriously, you should probably go work for EA or something.

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KzE   
5 hours ago, kiroasw said:

Consider all that before you cry about the people who work at the business every day to bring you this game, should they go to work for free? would you? I doubt it very much....

No, they should get a lesson from Riot, how to manage a game.

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iClean   

Leave if you want to, they won't stop you. But one thing for sure they can't stop the whales ..they always came back.

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20 hours ago, kiroasw said:

At the end of the day this game is a business like any other business and the aim is to make a income to sustain the business and build upon it, it has a F2p option but the construction, maintenance and development of this business had and will continue to have a cost,

would you go to work for free? as wanting every thing in this game to be free is like going to work for free, life does not work in such a way and every thing has a cost,

 

No I wouldn't work for free and yes they do have costs. 

 

However, I wouldn't be stupid enough to LOSE money selling literally infinite pixel items to players through gambling. They are not taxed like a casino, not regulated like a casino. How do you possibly LOSE money selling people trove keys, treasure keys, RNG boxes and now they're selling straight up POWER. 

 

They come up with a dungeon every few months and a raid a year? That's the only content, all the other stuff like new classes and new specs are just a way to milk players re-rolling. 

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Arohk   
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They just added squared pet jewels, really are you totally insane?

It already takes a good year to get triangular pet jewels and you add another tier already?

 

This has became so ridiculous, my premium sub ends in 10 days i think i need a break of this game, every time you make a little bit of progress there is another tier added that takes 2-3 years of grinding.

The sheer amount of pet pots & oils (which now cost ~800 gold) is completely absurd.

 

Can'T you just stop adding new ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ to the game no one ever can afford? even is you pump 50.000 $ into this game you wont get that crap.

 

Combine that with the garbage events we got recently where you can't buy a single oil a week... just stop guys, stop adding new stages of what ever for at least 6 months , give people time to catch up a bit

 

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Rysa   
8 hours ago, Arohk said:

 

This has became so ridiculous, my premium sub ends in 10 days i think i need a break of this game, every time you make a little bit of progress there is another tier added that takes 2-3 years of grinding. 

 

or 2-3 days if you are an absolute whale, which is mainly the population NC$oft caters to. They don't care about us mere peasants, the devs themselves claimed so. 

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Am 2.3.2020 um 01:57 schrieb kiroasw:

I ask again would you go to work for free? can a business be a business with no income to sustain it?

This questions is stupid sorry but even if its a free to play game this dosent mean it needs to be pay to win to sustain itselfe.

 

Looking at how much they work their cost cant be that much i think Premium may already be enough for them to nearly sustain themselve and now imagine if they would care about their players. 1. we would have alot more players. 2. we would have alot of people paying for Premium and we would have alot more players that may buy Outfits for example.

 

I doubt their income would be muss less than right now but the playerbase would be far more if they would actully listen to the community.

 

Of course no one expects them to work for free we just want them to work to keep the game alive not to destroy it and pay to win means quitting players which means less potential customers and this results in a smaller playerbase which results again in less players wanting to play this game and this means less potential customers.

 

I dont know how you think but more potential Customers > Less Customers that pay alot cause if you cannot give a big playerbase to your customers even the biggest whale will eventually stop playing. Is freaking risky how their buisness is only relying on Whales. What happens if they quit and trust me alot of them did already due to the performance issue.

 

Instead of actively working against the demise of the ammount of players they decide "lets make it easy and put in more pay to win" lookin at the past we had way less pay to win but still NC had more income how do you explain this ?

vor 11 Stunden schrieb Noface007:

all the other stuff like new classes and new specs are just a way to milk players re-rolling. 

Looking at the balancing of their classes i dont think this is a secret anymore. Everytime a third spec or new class comes its op af and it stays like this. Awakening needs alot of changes already but then they gave us third specs and every single third spec is op af. I am not 100% sure about assasin yet thou it dosent feel that strong to me.

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