Ppl complaining about KFM, meanwhile SIN and BM.

[TheNineTailedFox]

Pls explain. KFM was (according to many) a C-tier class during pre-awk. Perhaps even bottom tier during level 45 era. They now changed the class in a way it became better and (unfortunately) easier to play. Better but far far from "broken" as many people claim it to be.

 

Pls take a look at all ranking. Is it just me or does the majority on the first page exist of SUM, SIN, and BM?

 

No, I am not defending my own class nor demanding nerfs for the classes that I mentioned above. I just do not understand why people complain about KFM while not caring about how capable the actual A tier classes are.

 

Cheers.

 

 

[Ren36]

Thats easy, because they refer to random bg teams with their heavily uncoordinated attacks that trigger counter and that 1s immunity, which seems endless, while having 3 pull animations that can be anicanceled into their main dps tremor and 4.

 

Also the meta is dictated by bm, the reason why kfm is not in the top is because it only has 1 escape while bm has 4 cc that break guard. No other classes aside from sm, sin, fm can hold up against him, because sm can cc during airborne and avoid 100-0 by ccing spectral bm with cat, fm has bubble; 2 escape and wallbang 100-0, sin has many cc with very low cd; can disable target with stealth that is required by spectral bm and double escape. Thus making arena a hellish place for kfm, because it's the only classes left, aside from sm, if you are a good kfm.

Edited August 8, 2019 by Ren36

[sojaa]

I dunno my 3 sec maelstrom was nerfed and it had a 30 cd. Maybe counter should be upped to 3 seconds of i frame with a 30 second cd. Or maybe everyone should have a counter that stops being damaged or cced for 1 sec with a 1.3 second cd.

Edited August 10, 2019 by sojaa

[kakikookie]

I dunno about the complaints... from my experience KFM is just a boring matchup. The class plays super safe and still gets a lot of luxuries inside iframe windows that supercede its animation, which is kinda cringe, especially when you look at the clock, see the time pass, and they still have iframes available due to some... strange freak accident involving d-day excuses like 'desync' and terrible netcode

playing the matchup requires the timing of budah, something where when my eyes are tired, and my mind is lazy from a long day, i just dont have the attention span to deal with that class.

When you get bruised by a sin or a bd... theres always something you can learn, you know there was an option you had that could make you win the matchup if you played it right, and your reads are on point.

With kfm, its just a waiting game.. the last thing I want to do against that class

Edited August 13, 2019 by kakikookie

[ImoutoMaster]

vor 6 Minuten schrieb kakikookie:

With kfm, its just a waiting game.. the last thing I want to do against that class

Seriously stop complaining and learn how to counter KFM.

1. never focus KFM while you still see other classes in fight try to focus something else and attack KFM as last.

2. Wait for them to use their iframes he ist stunable a lil moment after he iframed.

3. Use AOE Stuns to open the fight. Dash stuns etc. can give him godmode due to his block.

4. if you are FM use ur Frosttornado this is currently the strongest skill ingame.

 

Its pretty much try to fight him alone and look at his movement. KFM is actully pretty easy to beat unlike FM.

[kakikookie]

2 minutes ago, ImoutoMaster said:

Seriously stop complaining and learn how to counter KFM.

1. never focus KFM while you still see other classes in fight try to focus something else and attack KFM as last.

2. Wait for them to use their iframes he ist stunable a lil moment after he iframed.

3. Use AOE Stuns to open the fight. Dash stuns etc. can give him godmode due to his block.

4. if you are FM use ur Frosttornado this is currently the strongest skill ingame.

 

Its pretty much try to fight him alone and look at his movement. KFM is actully pretty easy to beat unlike FM.

I wasn't complaining about the class, I don't recall saying KFM is 'hard' to beat, and I have a relatively good matchup rate against them. I'm just saying its a boring match up that offers very little learning outcome whether you win or lose. So don't get why you're quoting me on that

FM is also an easy match up too, so why you're bringing up FM, when you open your post with "seriously stop complaining", makes me want to ask you questions.

Edited August 13, 2019 by kakikookie

[ImoutoMaster]

vor 38 Minuten schrieb kakikookie:

I wasn't complaining about the class, I don't recall saying KFM is 'hard' to beat, and I have a relatively good matchup rate against them. I'm just saying its a boring match up that offers very little learning outcome whether you win or lose. So don't get why you're quoting me on that

FM is also an easy match up too, so why you're bringing up FM, when you open your post with "seriously stop complaining", makes me want to ask you questions.

Sorry didnt quiet get my message trough i wanted to tell. I dont mean you in general its just there so much people complaining about KFM while they just spam their skills and dont care what KFM abilities are they just ask to get some op stuff for their class. For example one guy actully wanted to get Blue Buff on Warden extra to his Soul burn and he was actully thinking that would have been balanced. Another example a BD wanted a second tab.

 

This "seriously was supposed to mean" "serisoulsy guys" and i didnt try to focus on you completly.

 

I brought FM up cause unlike KFM there is no skill needed to play this class. They can use their normal PVE stuff and have 2 tab escapes while having frost which protects them for 15 seconds and cant be avoided ot countered. In that time they usually get one or 2 skill resets. The only reason FM seems easy to beat cause most FMs are simply stupid and have no idea how to play this class.

 

I can cc combo then aswell most just insta tab but if you encounter a FM who got alot of gear and knows what he is doing you are pretty much ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ed since you cannot kill it and it does increadable dmg.  Atleast you can counter every other class with something but you cant counter FM frost.

[RinDman]

Even the sin in tower of infinity is cancer as ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤, try to glitch his script ( they read your input great ... ), not even need to proc his light weapon proc to reset his CD ... 

Edited August 15, 2019 by RinDman