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Then the grand celestial weapon is a little pitiful, since it increases only the ap, in the rest of the bonus it is equal to the aransu. The only thing is mystic +20 to 50. What do you think about it? Since to have the Gc + 9 is a long way.

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stats change at stage 1,3, 6, and 9. weapon buff per stack respectively:

+30/32/34/36 AP and +6/12/20/30 boss AP

+4%/5%/5%/5% crit chance, +8%/9%/10%/11% crit damage

at 5 stacks, for 10 seconds:

+150/160/170/180 AP, +30/60/100/150 boss AP

+100% crit chance, +40%/45%/50%/55% crit damage

stacking elemental damage buff is 50 per stack, a total of +500. skill modifiers are identical to aransu stage 9 and do not change

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Grand Celestial 3 is    -5% / +10% - Damage Increase over Aransu 9, Since it has a Negative effect of -5%, Using Aransu 9 is more efficiently on damage, While using Grand Celestial 3, You will be Depending on RNG to Either have Negative Effect of -5% or Positive effect of +10%, It's a Gamble. So sometimes you will feel like you did more dps with Aransu 9 then Grand Celestial 3, and sometimes you will feel opposite, Different Classes will have Different Effect, For Example Some Classes are not depending on Critical as much as others, Other classes are Heavily Depending on it like Warlock. Best thing to do is, Upgrade Aransu 9 to Grand Celestial 6 Straight away.

 

So like other people mentioned, It's intended this way. and it's not a bug, This game is Turning into RNG combat. I believe on Awakening Update. all classes also received RNG buffs, on skill-Use it can trigger either level 1, level 2 or level 3 buff. Weapon buffs are also turning into RNG. I remember seeing on Korean forums that people are complaining, but I can't seem to find source anymore.

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It's becoming a well-known fact especially among TT raiders that GC3 does less damage than A9, and is always better to make the jump from A9 -> sky/shadow 6 -> GC6 with a few exceptions to a couple of classes to stay sky/shadow 6.

 

This should not be a problem if you have the GC steels for it, otherwise you're better off sending a ticket and reverting it back to A9, as owning a GC3 serves virtually no purpose than to flex you have a GC weapon minus the improvement.

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As people have said, GC3 is not better than Aransu9....

 

.....especially if you have a slow attacking class and have bad RNG with stacks, your DPS will be underwhelming compared to A9. Sucks for me as a fire KFM.

 

Not sure if I'm willing to switch to wind to compensate for this. Might have to think about that...

 

...and if you plan to go GC path, be sure to accumulate enough celestial steel to make the jump straight to GC6-9 after the upgrade....

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9 hours ago, Battery Butt said:

Makes sense to upgrade an item and end up getting weaker... yep..

You dont end up weaker.... the moment you get 2-3 stacks you are already over aransu 9. The reason it "feels" weaker is because the weapon stat changes, from now all weapons will have the crit procs added into the weapon stack buff.

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  • 1 month later...

https://i.ibb.co/JzwZykx/GC1-9.png

On 5/9/2019 at 3:32 AM, MaiTraha said:

The best way to upgrade to GC weapon on class basis would be Aransu +9 to GC +9 for best performance so save up for those mats for super big upgrade. GC +3 bleh, GC+6 hmm meh but upto person :D

U ALL saying "1 -3 not so good" "from 6 similar to aransu 9", what a bullshit u writing, GC doesn't have any stat changes in entire line from 1 to 9, its all same just with +10 ap for each level. So if you "say" its bad at 3 it's gonna be BAD at 9 also just with more AP, like 50 from 3. So 1 of you stupid makers or you.

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Reason why stage 1 or stage 3 in this case feels weaker and worse is not just the stat increases but also the chance to get stacks. 

At stage 1 of any weapon you have lowest chance to get a stack. At stage 9 you have the highest chance to get a stack.

That is why when you upgrade from stage 9 weapon to stage 1 weapon you think that stage 1 weapon is weaker, because the stack trigger chance goes back to lowest chance. Thus lowering your dps since you now get less stacks due to lower base trigger chance.

 

Stage 1 = lowest trigger chance, Stage 3 = low trigger chance, Stage 6 = medium trigger chance, Stage 9 = highest trigger chance

 

That's why GC 6 to 9 becomes better than Aransu, you get more stacks more frequently. Also GC does not have Aransus random 1500%-2000% additional attack power boost you get so that also decreases your dps. GC's main damage boost comes from 500 mystic and 55% crit damage boost at stacks 4-5 which is enough to make it better at stages 6 above.

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7 hours ago, Indifferent said:

https://i.ibb.co/JzwZykx/GC1-9.png

U ALL saying "1 -3 not so good" "from 6 similar to aransu 9", what a bullshit u writing, GC doesn't have any stat changes in entire line from 1 to 9, its all same just with +10 ap for each level. So if you "say" its bad at 3 it's gonna be BAD at 9 also just with more AP, like 50 from 3. So 1 of you stupid makers or you.

Just a Friendly suggestion: Next time do some research or read this thread properly because it contains all the information you need to understand how the weapon works and why it's worse in early stages and why it's better in later stages, No need to insult others by telling them they might be stupid or writing bullshit when you're the one who is lacking in knowledge.

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