Astarae Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) In longgui-6 yesterday, I took screen shot of the problem I have -- the more people in a group, the worse performance gets -- and it isn't graphix power -- it's pure ping. The following shows screenshots about 5-6 seconds apart in battle: first shows 3 FPS and ping at 256ms 2nd shows 2 FPS and ping at 339ms last showed 1 FPS and ping at 453ms... Notice in each, damage numbers on the right at least 3 hits per image. But notice the DPS on the counters at the left -- mine was staying at 0. After last pic, I died...I got back before he died, but as soon as he died, the leader kicked me from group to keep me from getting treasure...Nice considering he started barely above me in DPS: How is this possible?? If this isn't indicative of a bug or a problem, I'm not sure what is. Edited April 22, 2019 by Astarae left/right correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarathiel Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 It indeed is a huge problem caused by very bad optimization. Basically what's happening is that your client and/or server for whatever reasons have insane loading times when it has to load what other people or monsters do and that's what is causing your ping to rise to high levels, game can't let you continue playing until it knows what they do thus a freeze occurs lol. It even affects loading screen times. Loading time when CTRL+F is enabled is significantly decreased which makes no sense. I get a small freeze every single time warlock uses SB or sometimes when bosses do certain attacks like what, Why, How? Everything should be loaded already. This should not be happening at all no matter what pc you have. I'm guessing loading assets is ordered by the server whenever the host client needs them and then instantly unloads them when done but it's somehow coded wrong or something else causes the server not respond quick enough. Can only guess how bad it's going to be when servers get merged next wednesday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astarae Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 FWIW -- I am not getting any "freezes" as I would call them -- not like when I had some ... I think reflex guide turned on -- that resulted in hard freezes of the game for more than 60 seconds at times -- but not the machine. Turning that off eliminated the long freezes, but the symptom above remains. I can go in smaller groups (6 people) and it isn't as severe as above -- but the above is what happens with 12 people in "party" going up against enemies -- happens in raids in BT & VT as well -- so basically its affecting my ability to do raids, AT ALL. In addition to being kicked from the party because of this, I also was kicked from a clan for "showing low-damage for my equipment", vs. in a smaller group of 4-5, of bursting a bit over 2m, and ending up @ 800k-1m on bosses where I can shoot continuously (vs. bosses that keep you knocked down). Like you, I'm also seeing the small freezes (sound drops) when I move cursor over an item and it has to go look it up again. Unfortunately, the game isn't using spare memory to cache things in memory. If it did, that problem would go away in large part. It seems like more and more, for games that are optimized for small clients like consoles, and worse, portable clients, the versions running on larger clients are performing worse and worse. It is no wonder the market for small clients goes up when games are optimized to perform poorly on larger platforms. I've specifically optimized my PC to be able to run multiple games and or multi-media tasks at the same time. Before *this* client (mostly because of its instability and hanging of my machine), I could run as many as 2 or 3 different games at the same time (only 1 "active" on the screen -- others minimized) and watch a 1080p video coming off my local network. When this game is running, I can't really run anything else because of the strong likely hood of it crashing (hanging) the machine. If I only use it for this game, I can stay up for over 24 hours str8, maybe topping 30 hours. Up-times without running this game at all can be measured in weeks. NOTE: this poor uptime (and the above poor performance in groups) has been since the ascension-patch in march. It's this lack of performance that prompted me to ask about getting alternate methods of getting the top-tier items or outfits like the blood-sports outfit being offered in the dragon-trader store. I know we aren't playing on a level playing field when I'm, 80% of the time, the last person in the group to get into a dungeon, or make it through a transition screen -- and that has nothing to do with load that I know of. I looked at a few other online games -- one had servers in the west, central and eastern areas. On the western server I was in the 20's for server ping. Too bad the game sucked so badly. I too, am more than a little bit concerned about the effects of the merger. Maybe it will kill off performance for another people that they'll do something about it. I remember the first time on one of the patches how the performance went down -- and I wondered if they'd compiled the game as a debug version because of bugs. Who knows, maybe they turn off optimization and keep debugging on all the time now? Certainly when it comes to getting items -- some of us are operating at a huge disadvantage and want to see alternative ways to get outfits. I'm not suggesting changing competition, but even getting a client that doesn't have XIGNCODE and excluding me from rankings would be a great start -- but why I'm getting slammed with downloaded info so bad that my updates can't get up to the server -- on a bidirectional line, is beyond me, though some of the people who brag about their response time are in the dallas area on 1g/1g fiber, compared to me living 45 minutes from silicon valley on 33m-down/8.5m-up. On any of Comcraptic's offerings, 10mb-up (which is what I, "technically" have) is the highest up-speed offered (with up to 100m down). *bleh*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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