pikapikapika Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I bought 300 keys, no gem. Not only i did not any gem, none of my friend got any. If you click on the trove icon, you can see no one else got any either. People are paying 40-45g a key, and getting 1 evolved stone back. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastorix Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, pikapikapika said: I bought 300 keys, no gem. Not only i did not any gem, none of my friend got any. If you click on the trove icon, you can see no one else got any either. People are paying 40-45g a key, and getting 1 evolved stone back. RIP blah blah blah same story same thread same whiner that buys lots of keys but is never satisfied and never learns his lesson to do it again. the cycle repeats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikapikapika Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 NC, did you see Bastrix's reply? That is my point exactly. Soon everyone to behave like Bastorix, thanks to your empty trove boxes. Empty trove box = No one pays = NC Broke, sell it self to 10 cent = Entire staff fired = You move back to your mom's basement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikapikapika Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Remember when 1g = 10 hm coins? Earlier troves were give out stacks of 70 elysians and evolved. Now 1g = 1.3 hm coin, and you give us stack of 10 evolved on crit? And you wondering why i was only swiping a fraction of what i was swiping b4? It is so bad, it is becoming laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racingwind Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, pikapikapika said: I bought 300 keys, no gem. Not only i did not any gem, none of my friend got any. If you click on the trove icon, you can see no one else got any either. I got a gilded crit in 100 keys. I didn't buy them, instead I got the sacred oils. Last trove I used 500 keys, I didn't get any gilded crits. It's rng. If you think you are guaranteed to get what you are looking for with 300 keys, sadly that's not how probability works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcnighthawk Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 What's funny is nobody expect RNG to be like it be, but it do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milennin Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I used 200 keys and got an Octagonal crit, as well as a couple of lower Obsidian crits. It's all luck, as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racingwind Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Skyhaven said: Same situation here, I mean look what u did lol, u got the gilded but instead got oils and when u did last trove for 500 keys u didnt get it when u wanted it. Not sure why u took oils, btw Gilded is around 23k gold to make from scratch, so not too sure unless u were desperate for soul True, I would have liked the gilded gems last trove since they were useful to a degree. This trove they weren't. I took the oils because it would get my soul to the next break point. The gilded may take over 20k gold to make, but that's over 20k wasted if I'm not going to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyva Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Eh, this trove was boring for me simply because it was a pile of crap and nothing was of interest for me. Nothing worth wasting $ on for me unless I just went specifically for exp charms lol. Try harder next time NCSoft. If the trove was actually any good, I may have wasted a good amount of $ on it. Gilded? Can some of you guys go play at a actual casino and see how it works lol? Just have enough for the car ride home is all I'm gonna say lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laosduude Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 >spends actual money on keys >didn't get wanted item from gamble system >plays the blame game Nothing new here and this applies to anything with a gamble system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyroxion Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 300 keys? that's sweet. I opened 800 keys and guess what, no gilded gem, no big oil crits (like 30 or w/e), no PTS (well I had one crit with 3 oils, 3 PTS in same line but there was also 62 ap gem so I picked the gem). Am I mad sad about it? Yes I am. Did I get what I wanted? Yes and no, I did get materials I wanted and some gems I wanted, but didn't get best pulls while some opened 8x less and got way better crits than I had. Am I blaming NCsoft? No, because it is RNG, who knows, maybe on free daily key I will get gilded gem or 30x oil crit, you never know. RNG stands for Random Number Generator. RANDOM. If you decide to do something that is clearly random, don't blame others, just take it with grain of salt like big boi you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacey Banks Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 21 hours ago, pikapikapika said: NC, did you see Bastrix's reply? That is my point exactly. Soon everyone to behave like Bastorix, thanks to your empty trove boxes. Empty trove box = No one pays = NC Broke, sell it self to 10 cent = Entire staff fired = You move back to your mom's basement nah don't worry, there's always gonna be enough people willing to throw money at trove or whatever. What I don't understand is, like Bastorix said, even if people get burned cos they spend big cash and get "nothing" in return, they still come back for the next trove and do it all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacey Banks Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Laosduude said: >spends actual money on keys >didn't get wanted item from gamble system >plays the blame game Nothing new here and this applies to anything with a gamble system. Don't gamble if you don't wanna lose I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellonora Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Hey there, i bought on the first trove Eventday over 1000 Keys and what did i got ? Nothing ! ( i tried to get a triangular gem) thats disappointing ! So i wrote the Support if they can give me a part of my keys back or similar things. But unfortunately they said "No we cant do it because with every pull you have a minimal dropchance to get a gem. thats the Worst trove event ever !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicorns Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, Ellonora said: Hey there, i bought on the first trove Eventday over 1000 Keys and what did i got ? Nothing ! ( i tried to get a triangular gem) thats disappointing ! So i wrote the Support if they can give me a part of my keys back or similar things. But unfortunately they said "No we cant do it because with every pull you have a minimal dropchance to get a gem. thats the Worst trove event ever !!!!! Well thats like going to a casino and ask for a refund because you didnt win. Gambling is gambling. I do agree this trove is crap tho, which is why although i had planned to buy nccoins to get 100-200 keys i did not. I regreat spending 3k hm coins on it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcoleptic Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, Ellonora said: i bought on the first trove Eventday over 1000 Keys and what did i got ? Nothing ! ( i tried to get a triangular gem) thats disappointing ! So i wrote the Support if they can give me a part of my keys back or similar things. But unfortunately they said "No we cant do it because with every pull you have a minimal dropchance to get a gem. thats the Worst trove event ever !!!!! [Gif deleted by Amraith] Feels great not to throw money at these crap rng "events". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellonora Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Last event i were a lucky. thats the reason why i chashed in this event ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 You gonna go burn to some toast now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quizotic Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I threw $50 at it just to see, seems like a waste :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacey Banks Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Skyhaven said: The problem isnt because RNG. when do u rng events especially paying ones with real life $$$, u dont expect the rng to be this bad. Thats why China made games reveal loot box chances, so at least you know what ur getting. BNS doesnt tell u how bad the chances are, thats the difference, Who knows the chance of gilded might not even be more than 0.5%. I mean if you spend over $200 in this one event and dont even get anything good, then there is a problem. Even if you were the most unluckiest person on the planet. Hence they introduced the 40 keys big crit, even then sometimes the big crit is worse than the little crit. Even if they show the chances, I'm sure not much would change and people will pay a lot, cos they think they might be lucky. I mean, everybody and their moms should know, that the chance to get the best items is very very very low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Valent Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Spent 100 keys (included hmcoins) and I stopped. Literally much less in return. Lost around 1.5K gold. I agreed with @Skyhaven. The odds/chance of critical is controlled by NC and it keeps getting worse trove by trove OR rngbox by rngbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyaha Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 You guys are looking funny. Going crazy about some gem that gives like 10-15 more AP than you can easily get from a cheap hepta... Going so far as spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars on that thing. And as new content will come out - they will make those guile-bla-bla gems easier to get so everyone will be able to catch up. So you are wasting so much money and buthurting about some stupid gem that will give you like +10 ap more, than a regular one, and that you will eventually get anyway... It's just so absurd that i can't stop smiling :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swpz Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 "I walked into a casino, gambled away my life and am left with nothing. Could I have it back, please?" I think sooner or later the government is going to have to legislate laws against this sort of online gambling (same with all these online cash shops). That's what it is, nothing more, nothing less. They get away currently by not having cash payouts (which would make it actual gambling going per the legal definition), but it's gambling in every sense of the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyroxion Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 @Skyhaven dude, what if I told you that buying Trove keys is not mandatory? That it is your choice to do so? No one pulled a gun up your head and told you to buy it. You decided to risk on your own and you didn't hit the jackpot so do not come here crying. You knew very well that it is Trove and it is RNG and inside NCsoft and yet you took the risk and didn't get the best pull there is and now you come complaining no. You ask for staff to move things to other chars that is not how the game was intended, you got tons of HMCoins as "compensation", you still not happy. You went and bought Trove keys and didn't get best pull there is while this gem can be made in game. It is expensive but can be made. Seems like as soon as something doesn't go the way you want in easy route you come to forums to complain. Stop. It's not good for your health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCSOFT Aurinya Posted March 25, 2018 NCSOFT Share Posted March 25, 2018 Greetings! For the sake of the longevity of your thread, please remember to always discuss the topic at hand, not each other. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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