Laosduude Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Dropping this here if one does not visit reddit https://bnstree.com/news/SJ5qNgnez/11.29-kr-test-server-patch-summary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyokushinkai Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 gunner nerf, DOPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimoir Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 ikr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neriux777 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Next level after Aransu lvl 9 introduction, whatever what gonna be in year or two, or not at all. 12 level difference, and they will reduce 60 daily gold from quests, WE GETTING SO MUCH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyokushinkai Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 neriux777 i have no idea what u want to say >< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beleth Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Aww aren’t you guys happy now? I just hope you won’t get too bored because you won’t have to bash Gunners now and have to wait for a bit on which class to whine about c: Also, I wonder what’s your next excuse gonna be when you get ravaged in BG and won’t be able to blame Gunners anymore to hide your inexperience. Probably next “OP” class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephy Kun Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 26 minutes ago, Kyokushinkai said: gunner nerf, DOPE it's only a nerf for shadow fire got buffed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiroBlank Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Guys who whine abt gunners having top dps should think about this for a second 1) Gunners are only pure dps . 2)They have no other utility other than reset which has a 5 min cd. 3) Even now most people dont want gunners in party because all the other classes are enough most dungeons dont require use of alpha call 4) Its just 9 seconds of burst, everyone knows what a gunner does.. everyone does.. then why do you let it hit you in the first place dodge it resist it what ever 1 cc and gunner is done... 5) NO party protect NO heal nothing and you guys complain abt gunner insane burst in pve and pvp... seriosuly if thats nerfed the class becomes OBSOLETE Whats the point of calling a call pure dps if it cant dish out real damage.. I totally agree they are strong in pvp but nerf the dmg in pvp why does pve players have to get affected along with it ?? After than 9 sec burst guners dps is kinda normal a bit higher than everyone and tank wont have problem in holding aggro... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katjes Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 The so called nerf to gunners is minimal and if you look at the overall picture they just moved around values. There are some small changes in it's base but it won't make big difference in the end result. So overall gunner will still be top dps and we will still see complains about it and requests to be nerfed even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimoir Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 12 minutes ago, ShiroBlank said: Guys who whine abt gunners having top dps should think about this for a second 1) Gunners are only pure dps . 2)They have no other utility other than reset which has a 5 min cd. 3) Even now most people dont want gunners in party because all the other classes are enough most dungeons dont require use of alpha call 4) Its just 9 seconds of burst, everyone knows what a gunner does.. everyone does.. then why do you let it hit you in the first place dodge it resist it what ever 1 cc and gunner is done... 5) NO party protect NO heal nothing and you guys complain abt gunner insane burst in pve and pvp... seriosuly if thats nerfed the class becomes OBSOLETE Whats the point of calling a call pure dps if it cant dish out real damage.. I totally agree they are strong in pvp but nerf the dmg in pvp why does pve players have to get affected along with it ?? After than 9 sec burst guners dps is kinda normal a bit higher than everyone and tank wont have problem in holding aggro... There are some flaws in your points: 3. People want them especially for the reset to clear dungeons faster. 4. Gunners hard-hitters ignore defense and projectile protections so....that doesnt help at all. 5. The HP gunner receives back just from his right mouse button is more than enough. Also here below dps meter from a HM dungeon where there is no blue buff and no soulburn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriShadow2 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 BD is cancer and they still buff it? Good job killing another project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiana Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 all class got some buff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriShadow2 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Just now, Fiana said: all class got some buff BD need nerf. He is too broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beleth Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, Grimoir said: There are some flaws in your points: 3. People want them especially for the reset to clear dungeons faster. 4. Gunners hard-hitters ignore defense and projectile protections so....that doesnt help at all. 5. The HP gunner receives back just from his right mouse button is more than enough. Also here below dps meter from a HM dungeon where there is no blue buff and no soulburn: And I bet they were geared equally, had same ping and Gunner wasn’t using TAB - Soul Buff - Bracelet Buff all of them together, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyokushinkai Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 beleth tilted lulz. and fire gunner got burst nerf but got buffed with sustained dmg, which is fine as long as they dont burst the fuk out of everything :^). and all u guys that said that people whine about gunner and are inexperienced or w/e, check urself before u rek urself. ur class is only 1 button anyways and class that doesnt require much skill like bd :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiroBlank Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Grimoir said: There are some flaws in your points: 3. People want them especially for the reset to clear dungeons faster. 4. Gunners hard-hitters ignore defense and projectile protections so....that doesnt help at all. 5. The HP gunner receives back just from his right mouse button is more than enough. Also here below dps meter from a HM dungeon where there is no blue buff and no soulburn: by heal i meant no party heal all classes have life steal thats different case And your dps details is incomplete if you dont show the gear a bale 12 gunner dont do this lol xDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenB Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I don't know about you guys, but my noob gunner with baleful stage 3 weapon with all pinnacle accessories and only MSP 8 set (no enhancement and no crit damage on most ss pieces) and no soul (AP 770) and can get up to floor 50 in TOI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimoir Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 23 minutes ago, ShiroBlank said: by heal i meant no party heal all classes have life steal thats different case And your dps details is incomplete if you dont show the gear a bale 12 gunner dont do this lol xDD The gunner was geared same as me: BT accessories awakened stage 1 heptagonal gems stage 10 bracelet stage 10 belt stage 10 elemental necklace raven 9 gun aransu mystic badge VT soulshield set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vexthal Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 But where are the nerfs to classes in pvp? Seems its gonna be another year of watching WL + SIN + DESTRO + BD. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rysa Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 4 hours ago, Kyokushinkai said: gunner nerf, DOPE Not at all. Shadow gunner maybe, but fire got buffed with increased sustained DPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Falz Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 11 hours ago, Rysa said: Not at all. Shadow gunner maybe, but fire got buffed with increased sustained DPS. Actually both fire and shadow gunners are seeing about a 20% decrease in overall dps on the KR test servers. The buff to unload didn't cancel out the nerf to their burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suna Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Gunner damage nerfed bit but I would say they get buffed in pvp because. 1. New guard break can disable block 2. Aerial is in different button, allow aerial opponent before they tab escape 3. 360 block is lot easier use after hooks 4 let you use extra daze after ss Summoner also get little buff as well that 1.5sec iframe after ss is pretty strong. Other changes not make any difference in arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amokk Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I dunno how you guys can say "fire got buffed, shadow nerfed". Fire got hit WAY harder than shadow here. Burst drastically decreased, while sustain was buffed a bit. Fire even had its base multiplier reduced on F (instead of 12.5 -> 11.5). For shadow, we lose about 30% elemental damage on some buffs, but get 20% increase on our main skill through VT shields. Also, bracelet uptime was reduced, which again, hurts Fire way more cuz of less resets. Fire +% on weapons was reduced (shadow untouched). With this, Fire gunners will want a short CD soul with holy fire badge(+fuse), insteead of long cd and primal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimoir Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 3 hours ago, CattoV said: LOL???? Do u think that we are stupid or what? 1- is not a BOSS 2- why do u hide the names? 3- a summoner with that GEAR.. 94k? REALLY? the problem is yours not the class better quit the game. 4- the burst is not real dps, the dps decreases after burst. 5- im sure that party used SB, show the % . The people that comment here are crybabies in all threads. i never saw much noobs asking for nerfs in pve... The problem here is pvp, but WLs, Sins, BDs , ICE FM are broken and nobody says anything. Our party had no warlock, no assasin/ kfm for blue buff. and its throughout the entire fight its not just burst. The other bosses had same dps ourput for the gunner. Hide the names because its not allowed in the forums, educate yourself before you make dumb remarks. I do more dps than 94k i stopped attacking when i saw the gunners dmg, and in the start of the fight that dps was much higher. So...it clearly shows how broken the class is, i get a class can be pure dps but this is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amokk Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Grimoir said: Our party had no warlock, no assasin/ kfm for blue buff. and its throughout the entire fight its not just burst. The other bosses had same dps ourput for the gunner. Hide the names because its not allowed in the forums, educate yourself before you make dumb remarks. I do more dps than 94k i stopped attacking when i saw the gunners dmg, and in the start of the fight that dps was much higher. So...it clearly shows how broken the class is, i get a class can be pure dps but this is ridiculous. You know it's bullshit. 1m dps throughout the fight? LUL. Even max geared Fire Gunner Essail / Giraia or whatever his name was just got to ~430k solodps on Moyun. What you see here is fire gunner burst, which is sick and OP at the moment, but it drops very fast after 8s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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