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Silverfrost transformation stone prices hurting new players

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The price of Silverfrost Transformation Stones has jumped 40% with the new need of 10 for a sacred oil vs the previous 5. This 40% price increase is hurting newer players who are trying to gear up, I know the hopes is that the new 1v1 3v3 event will help alleviate the problem but I think things will get worse with Wednesdays patch when people will be buying more STS and the price will still go up. Something needs to be done to reduce the cost ASAP, not in phases.

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While this item will be in demand in the coming weeks, the price is going up because two of the core components are getting rarer due to the server merge. It seems that a lot of servers collectively have less channels now than they had before the merge, so Quartz and Soulstones' prices have increased by at least 30% in the past week.

This was expected, sadly, and the coming event isn't going to help this situation at all.

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Leyren   

The main reason for the price increase is not the quartz. It jumped up when people saw that they will change the crafting materials for the sacred oils, costing the double amount of transformation stones. But where do you see 40%? It was 12-13g the last few weeks, now it  is rather 15g. This isn't hurting new players anyway, to get to true ivorymoon, you need 3 of them, and you get more gold than you need from the quests... And even considering higher upgrades.. 2-4g more per stone? That won't kill you, it's not like it is a desaster.

The price will possibly fall again anyway, after the panic about new crafting, merge, etc is gone.

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1 hour ago, Leyren said:

The main reason for the price increase is not the quartz. It jumped up when people saw that they will change the crafting materials for the sacred oils, costing the double amount of transformation stones. But where do you see 40%? It was 12-13g the last few weeks, now it  is rather 15g. This isn't hurting new players anyway, to get to true ivorymoon, you need 3 of them, and you get more gold than you need from the quests... And even considering higher upgrades.. 2-4g more per stone? That won't kill you, it's not like it is a desaster.

The price will possibly fall again anyway, after the panic about new crafting, merge, etc is gone.

you are delusional if you think that they will get cheaper over time, the quatrz is becoming harder and harder to farm with all the quatrz mining bots in every channel at every major node, People have been crafting STS at a net loss for a couple of months now and its only going to get worse, these people will stop selling sts and then eveyone else will try to craft them themselves, only to find that quartz is near unobtainable. This is a serious problem, mostly due to the large number of mining bots that have every major node on every channel on a timer. Just like with the Arena bots back in the day, deal with the bots and things will improve

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The gold sellers bought a bunch of valuable materials and uses them to craft STS. Then they sell the STS at a premium rate. Where did they get the gold? They hired a myriad of gold farmers (paid probably around $3-$5 per day per 12 hours) to farm gold for the gold sellers. This easily allows them to play the market.

 

I know a gold seller that has 20K moonstones sitting in one of their 'bot' accounts and 20K quartz in another account. Then they have like 20 chars that craft STS and oils. 

 

And given that the devs purposely did nothing, we know they are part of the problem. This is pretty much the case in all MMORPGs.

 

Leyren is probably a gold seller. Gold is not easy to farm, dude.

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You can see the price of STS have been about 10 gold each and now they are up around 14+ gold that's a 40 percent increase, give or take. One of the things you need to realize is that noob players struggle to do dungeons, they have to LFP and get kicked out of F8 lobbies if they don't join a good clan with strong players who will carry them. They do not earn the money that experienced players earn.

When the servers merged the number of Silverfrost Rich quartz was reduced from around 42 spawning every 3 hours and being farmed to around 14-16?. This combined with the 2x demand of STS that existed previously is driving prices up. Also the number of players able to farm soulstones has been greatly reduced. where before we had 12-16 SSP chs going across 6 servers, we now have 8. This is even worse as where before players were spread out and able to farm a substantial amount of soulstones, now they can not.

 

We have 2xs the previous demand and in many ways 1/3rd the available resources.

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Reijuna   

I started 2 days before merge and I can clearly say one thing, the STS sky rocket after the merge idk why, still working on getting STS, and Quartz, it is a pain to farm for

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Malign   

15g isn't high enough to start screaming it's hurting new player. The SFTS costs and upgrade costs in general for weapons is way down compared to before. The storyline straight up gives you true ivorymoon. It would be more accurate to call the price increase more of a nuisance. You really don't have to run many dungeons to get the 15g they currently cost. Costs are going up cause the mats to make em are up and the demand increased.

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I mean as a returned scrublord of a player 15g does hurt a little bit (seeing as i am wanting 12 for stage 6 seraph) but its bareable and earnable for now... so sure its annoying but i dont mind

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NightFer   

Maybe you should start thinking of other ways of getting more moonstones and soulstones. SSP is not the only way. This only hurts the smaller factions in number cause they cant farm at all. So what do we do? We play arena :D

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Knoxz   

Shiiieeettt I remember when they were like 150g+ and then for awhile being like 40g later down the road as we got newer content gold was harder to obtain then too and your complaining of an increase of 3-4g... D:

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new players can make themselves, recieps are cheap and you can farm the mats easy enough, the first 10 stones will level your weapons extensively, they still need to farm gold to buy the upgrades so it will be enough for a great start.

 

I know some veteran people make them on 10 chars :) thats like 1500g a day

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On 8/14/2017 at 11:04 PM, GonnaNeedaMontage said:

you are delusional if you think that they will get cheaper over time, the quatrz is becoming harder and harder to farm with all the quatrz mining bots in every channel at every major node, People have been crafting STS at a net loss for a couple of months now and its only going to get worse, these people will stop selling sts and then eveyone else will try to craft them themselves, only to find that quartz is near unobtainable. This is a serious problem, mostly due to the large number of mining bots that have every major node on every channel on a timer. Just like with the Arena bots back in the day, deal with the bots and things will improve

They won't get cheaper. They will be removed. All pickaxes,jars along with moonwater,viridian and cinderlands transformation stones and all old materials will be removed soon. Crafting system is about to be redone. For better one. Experience charms,soups,2× purification jars instead 1,craftable brilliant silverfrost keys  forgekeepers  crafting silverfrost transformation stones and more. And they still don't have gunner. Yeah...max lv55 but still no gunner. Compared to our dark origins patch they have: 2 more dungeons; 2 more raids and 2 more solo dungeons. Oh and act VIII. But all those things might be included in September patch. After all...they promised gunner this year so changes for crafting might happen on September 12...

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