Dreadomir Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 As far as I know, Desolate Tomb has no mechanics whatsoever on last boss. What other dungeon's were affected by this update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenB Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 19 minutes ago, Dreadomir said: As far as I know, Desolate Tomb has no mechanics whatsoever on last boss. What other dungeon's were affected by this update? All big 4 dungeons normal mode were nerf'ed. Jesus Christ, now new players won't know the mechanics for hard mode and old players will have no way to find out if people know mech or not for hard mode. Why the heck they make normal mode and hard mode so different now? They should make the mechanics to be exactly the same, but nerf the overall damage (like not party wipe if failed the mechanics for normal mode). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadomir Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, FrozenB said: All big 4 dungeons normal mode were nerf'ed. Jesus Christ, now new players won't know the mechanics for hard mode and old players will have no way to find out if people know mech or not for hard mode. Why the heck they make normal mode and hard mode so different now? They should make the mechanics to be exactly the same, but nerf the overall damage (like not party wipe if failed the mechanics for normal mode). Seems like a double edged sword. ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fufia Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I done DT now and is patetic! And good job NCS inform us of this just phenomenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinmage Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Fufia said: I done DT now and is patetic! And good job NCS inform us of this just phenomenal why are u blaming Na nsc u ppl forget its kr game an they get update form kr so blame them Na nsc have really no say how game is done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fufia Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 44 minutes ago, Twinmage said: why are u blaming Na nsc u ppl forget its kr game an they get update form kr so blame them Na nsc have really no say how game is done What??? I just blame NCS for dont inform us that DT get Nerf. is this not NCS eu/na fault? And i dont speak Korean :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwalien Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 how bad is it? is it at the point where people will start soloing it like yeti? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnugglesFairie Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Did yeti, lair, and those other dungeons get another nerf too? Or is it just the DT, NF, EC, and NS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadomir Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, SnugglesFairie said: Did yeti, lair, and those other dungeons get another nerf too? Or is it just the DT, NF, EC, and NS? Think they only nerfed EC, DT, NF, and NS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura099 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, SnugglesFairie said: Did yeti, lair, and those other dungeons get another nerf too? Or is it just the DT, NF, EC, and NS? Yeti lost hp i believe, soguns was untouched,. unsure about the other dungeons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura099 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Twinmage said: why are u blaming Na nsc u ppl forget its kr game an they get update form kr so blame them Na nsc have really no say how game is done Just because KR ncsoft created this game does not mean we are following them. First off we got bt before ns. That did not happen in kr. In kr there's fair exchanges and easier way tog et mats, unlike NA NCsoft KR and NCwest are two entirely different companies. Sure we take after them somewhat, but not entirely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raiklock Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 4 hours ago, FrozenB said: All big 4 dungeons normal mode were nerf'ed. Jesus Christ, now new players won't know the mechanics for hard mode and old players will have no way to find out if people know mech or not for hard mode. Why the heck they make normal mode and hard mode so different now? They should make the mechanics to be exactly the same, but nerf the overall damage (like not party wipe if failed the mechanics for normal mode). This nerf is meant for CASUALS and non-skilled players, so they can have a good time playing and enjoying the game. This kind of player brings A LOT of money to the game, so they are important to NCsoft. Don't worry, your HM mode is still there untouched, you and your elite skilled friends can farm HM mode without problems, you don't even play with low-skilled players, why do you care? These players usually don't even care about HM mode because they are happy doing normal and that's it, they're not competitive like you, they don't aim to be a skilled player like you. Don't worry, you and your elite super skilled friends will not be bothered by "plebs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedonia Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 2 hours ago, hwalien said: how bad is it? is it at the point where people will start soloing it like yeti? Did it solo for testing and yes, it's possible but not worth. Takes too long for that few chests and if you can solo it, you wont need the necklace (maybe for an alt but not worth for that). Even the new dungeon is easy going in normal mode with not too shit dps and all normal mode dungeons before automaton are braindead shit now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alysha Hawkeye Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 From what I know: -Desolate Tomb: First boss no wipe if you kill wives. Third boss has no lightning orbs and get overloaded only cause damage. -Ebondrake: not sure. It is too easy that we can just run Hard Mode. -Naryu Foundry: First boss only spawns two flowers now, and both of them cause damage on the boss. -Naryu Sanctum: not yet check it so not sure. But Xanos should not bother to do the marking phase anymore. -Irontech Forge: Fail in mechanic only result in prolonged fight, or maybe a few deaths. You can skip mechanic with whale DPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinmage Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 plus most of ppl doing nom dont even do hard mode so it wont effect hard mode ppl ppl can always look up guide on youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liene Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Why don't they remove the enrage timer at normal mode as well? ;D Edit: I think they can just simply release easy mode like this, then normal mode as like before patch and then hard mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadomir Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 @Liene Not a bad idea. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liene Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Dreadomir said: @Liene Not a bad idea. xD Not bad huh? xD I like easy dungeons but sometime I'm still keen to learn the mechs mostly for outfits from hard mode. Watching guide at youtube is nothing compared to experiencing it first hand and in my opinion normal mode like before patch is the best way for us to learn mech and try hard mode. Except DT of course. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadomir Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 @Liene Completely agree, if not easy mode at least a practice mode with mechs. Hongmoon training room don't do much for me when it comes to mechs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, Dreadomir said: @Liene Completely agree, if not easy mode at least a practice mode with mechs. Hongmoon training room don't do much for me when it comes to mechs. I think they should of just allowed you to enter hongmoon training room with a party, that way people would be able to practice mechs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin2win Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Can't believe some are actually whining for this. If you want a challenge do it on hard mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexipoo Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 New players won't learn mechanics anyways, who are you trying to fool here? If you're poorly geared you'll get either super-carried or kicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFer Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 This had to be released when they introduced normal and hard modes, but they decided to let it be for then, and now you see too many people crying over nothing. Run hard mode if you want the challenge! Let the plebs live their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieIsBoss Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 5 hours ago, raiklock said: This nerf is meant for CASUALS and non-skilled players, so they can have a good time playing and enjoying the game. This kind of player brings A LOT of money to the game, so they are important to NCsoft. Don't worry, your HM mode is still there untouched, you and your elite skilled friends can farm HM mode without problems, you don't even play with low-skilled players, why do you care? These players usually don't even care about HM mode because they are happy doing normal and that's it, they're not competitive like you, they don't aim to be a skilled player like you. Don't worry, you and your elite super skilled friends will not be bothered by "plebs". your use of the word skilled is pretty bogus. i'm casual and VERY skilled at what I do. in fact I bet you 1000 gold I get knocked down by barakan less than you if we both solo him with a silverfrost weapon and take all energy off and shields off. I even teach people how to dance with the bosses if they are having trouble. bring it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirectorTseng Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 I actually found the were easier before.. at least DT was. Ran it twice tonight and the second run he was all over the place the PT was dying. He was constantly lighting people on fire it got to the point there was no safe spot. Only time I have ever died in DT is when I play mark and no one gets the orbs behind me.. this time I was dying left and right to fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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