When to cleave spam?

[Cobalt Winter]

Hi guys, 

 

I recently checked out this video:

 

 

 

I see that this guy is spamming cleave a lot. How can he spam it so much without losing too much focus? Even after mighty cleave, I can't spam cleave that much. It's probably the weapon effect right? Is there any way to see when it procs, besides from watching the focus bar?

[TJXX]

You want to spam cleave as much as possible, if you have raven/dawnforged/riftwalk during the reset period you get focus regen, also during soul/pet procs.  Using Q to get 200 focus usually makes it easily possible with focus reset procs.  I generally only start animation cancel again under 50 focus.

[Cobalt Winter]

7 hours ago, TJXX said:

You want to spam cleave as much as possible, if you have raven/dawnforged/riftwalk during the reset period you get focus regen, also during soul/pet procs.  Using Q to get 200 focus usually makes it easily possible with focus reset procs.  I generally only start animation cancel again under 50 focus.

Hi thanks for your reply.

 

I know that I need to cleave spam as much as possible, but the question is when do you do it without losing too much focus? Im at balefull stage 6 atm so I don't have raven resets and I only have stage 1 soul and stage 1 pet aura.

[TJXX]

8 hours ago, Cobalt Winter said:

Hi thanks for your reply.

 

I know that I need to cleave spam as much as possible, but the question is when do you do it without losing too much focus? Im at balefull stage 6 atm so I don't have raven resets and I only have stage 1 soul and stage 1 pet aura.

 

15 hours ago, TJXX said:

 Using Q to get 200 focus usually makes it easily possible with focus reset procs.  I generally only start animation cancel again under 50 focus.

 

[Cobalt Winter]

1 hour ago, TJXX said:

 

 

So use q whenever wep procs? if i use q randomly i will still be at 80/100 focus. Somtimes i need the iframe version for harder dungs.

[Cnupo]

But aren't we doing more damage with ani-canceling than with spamming cleave only? Cleave cast speed seems to be the same, but you also get LMB hit.

[TJXX]

On ‎6‎/‎18‎/‎2017 at 5:51 AM, Cnupo said:

But aren't we doing more damage with ani-canceling than with spamming cleave only? Cleave cast speed seems to be the same, but you also get LMB hit.

Cleave is WAY faster without LMB involved.

[SoulsHunter]

3 hours ago, TJXX said:

Cleave is WAY faster without LMB involved.

Although I also usually spam cleave as much as I can because my ani-cancelling sucks, but I am not so sure about that. It seems to me ani-cancelling is faster, but because it is very hard to do it perfectly over a long time. Maybe that's why you think spamming cleave is better? At least that is why I think spamming cleave is better, but if possible I would stick to ani-cancelling.

[TJXX]

It's much slower to ani cancel, If you had infinite focus you could do 200 RMBS in around 1 minute, doing the same with ani cancel takes about 1 minute 45 seconds.  Here's a video.

Animation cancelling about 200 cleaves.

https://youtu.be/RpTqR5XNf_U

 

Holding RMB for about 200 cleaves.

https://youtu.be/dJC-r1vya2I