zapzap77 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 As near as I can tell the one way in the game to get an asura weapon without beating the final boss of sogun's lament has been removed (heavenly energy from daily challenge) Asura weapon doesn't seem to be at the peach vendor. This means i actually have to a) learn soguns lament (hard without a helpful guild) and 2) buy antidotes (i understand that sogun's mechanics still can't be cheezed by high ap. I have just over 700 AP now. Is ther any way to avoid having to get a big repair bill learning soguns lament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saksoy Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Am in same position but in ebondrake trying to get the binding gauntlet. But after 30 tries I barely seen one classes weapon. Offering weapons need different ways to get them not just one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwalien Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 asuar is easy now. having antidote is good if the group your in doesn't have dps to burn the boss down but its not a must. most of the time you can kinna get by without use of any antidotes. just watch the guide few times to make sure you know what not to do instead of what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meginb Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Um, depending on the groups you get, you can cheese all the fights. Here's a breakdown for the place if you don't want to search for a proper guide or clan: Boss 1 - Twins: Don't use double knockdowns on these guys, it causes them to leap to the other side and pull whoever is highest on the aggro list over to them. This causes a huge dps loss unless other party members can iframe over the instant kill zone. I stay specced for double knockdown in case someone causes them to leap so that I can force them back over to the party. Boss 2 - Iruga: Green adds = double knockdown, Blue adds = double stun, with enough dps, you can skip the adds and just burn the boss down. If you decide to do the adds, kill the shieldbearers, grab a shield and reflect attacks until he stops moving, then toss the shield at him, he needs it tossed at him to prevent a big red attack from happening. (You can party protect through it if you're quick though.) Boss 3 - Birds: These guys barely count as bosses now, they're squishy and the only attacks to look out for are the area attacks that center around them which can hurt if you're melee. Boss 4 - Asura: He can be cheesed if there's enough damage. However, it's a good idea to know the fight mechanics anyway in case you get a nightmare group that fails hard. He will teleport to the middle and spawn a flame sword, group up in front of the Dragonblood statue and use projectile protect, stealth, block, parry, or counter to defend against the projectiles. He will then spawn 2 orbs. When done right, a person with parry, block or counter will run up to be nearest him (without standing in the area damage and stop the first orb. If you only have one skill to stop orbs with, stop orb 1 and backstep away from the party and run along the outer edge of the room. The one blocking the first orb will get a mark that flame swords will chase and they do a lot of damage, which is why the first orb needs to be stopped. The second orb can be stopped by the first orb's blocker or a backup blocker, nothing happens to them. After he finishes launching swords at the person who was marked, he'll do a room wide pull and a kick. This can party protected or you can use your singular iframes to dodge the pull effect and the kick. The first phase will always be Fire and the second phase will always be Ice. After those two phases, every phase after will be random. If he spawns the green flowers around the room, it's still a good idea to pick them up unless the damage is high enough that he won't have time to absorb them. This part is what the Dungeon Antidotes are for, they not only cleanse the current poison but also protect you briefly after using it so that you can grab more flowers. You can iframe through the flowers to prevent the snaring effect or you can skip the Dungeon Antidotes if you're confident in your self healing and survivability. Aside from healing Asura, the flowers will put a debuff that will wipe the party at 5 (I think) stacks. That's the fight in a nutshell, it gets easier and easier the more times you do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatDuke Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 It's not hard. No need for antidotes(haven't used any in a long time), when i do it for daily quest, i use lfg and so far everything went alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapzap77 Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 Hmm. i've just been getting rotten cross server finder luck i guess. i've also had a lot of trouble timing counters when i don't have a timing bar to help... to put it simply, my reflexes are not the best, and i haven't really needed to actually work out a rotation. i pretty much just mash the heck out of the buttons. :) i do know enough to not interrupt the q cat taunt with another cat attack though. (chuckle) There's also the question of which belts count now for removing asura's brand debuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meginb Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 There is no brand anymore, they removed both the debuff and the effect from belts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassiveEgo Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 If you're stuck, just invest into a silverfrost key from the broker. They sell for like 140 gold. It's not that much for one upgrade I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwalien Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 for person who doesn't want to buy antidote I'm sure 140 gold is a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenB Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Technically, there are 6 members in a party and if each one takes a flower, there is no way you would be dead from poison stack. If the people just lazy and don't move to flower, then just let the boss suck up the flowers and make party wipe. These people will only learn in a hard way. Antidote is for the time you took 2 or more flowers by accident. For example, the flower spawned right at where you are standing while you have 1 stack of poison debuff. For the weapon, I think nowadays last boss drop a lot of asura weapon for each class. (at least 1 weapon for each run, sometimes 2 weapons at once). If you are looking for accursed weapon, then I think it is better to farm peaches in basin map. It will be faster to get the weapon chest there. 700 AP is more than enough for Asura. Back in the old days, people do it with 500+ AP in 6m party and have to run through multiple flower phases. That's another down-side of the new patch because nowadays people don't even know the mechanics in the lower level of heroic dungeons. Either they burn through with DPS/high AP or they just die from mechanics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malign Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 if asura is gating you at 700ap you need to improve your character control significantly. That was whale ap when that dungeon was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassiveEgo Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 @FrozenB Asura is about coordination and mechanics insight, than about AP. Actually the only reason people want AP is cause currently the vast majority of peeps run around with 45% crit rate and 205-208% crit damage. One compensates for the lack of the other. If you sport something like 52-54% crit rate and 215%+ crit damage, you'll do more than decent enough damage even with 450 AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KzE Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Dont worry, you will be stuck on seraph 6 too :D Btw just spam lfp, you will get a party to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arti Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I'm in the same situation as u, trying to get Asura weapon. I did the dungeon 20 times in 2 days and only got the accursed one. As everyone said, usually u won't have any problem with clearing the dungeon. I think I had only 2 groups that wiped hard. My problem is that my game crashes every second time I get in the dungeon during Asura fight so I don't get anything at all. Also to those who proposed to buy the silver frost key, u actually need 3 of those so it makes it 420 gold :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimeGem Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, Arti said: I'm in the same situation as u, trying to get Asura weapon. I did the dungeon 20 times in 2 days and only got the accursed one. As everyone said, usually u won't have any problem with clearing the dungeon. I think I had only 2 groups that wiped hard. My problem is that my game crashes every second time I get in the dungeon during Asura fight so I don't get anything at all. Also to those who proposed to buy the silver frost key, u actually need 3 of those so it makes it 420 gold :D you don't need 3 keys........only 1 silver frost key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arti Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 3 hours ago, LimeGem said: you don't need 3 keys........only 1 silver frost key I've just checked it again and it still says 3 brilliant keys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwalien Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 18 hours ago, FrozenB said: 700 AP is more than enough for Asura. Back in the old days, people do it with 500+ AP in 6m party and have to run through multiple flower phases. That's another down-side of the new patch because nowadays people don't even know the mechanics in the lower level of heroic dungeons. Either they burn through with DPS/high AP or they just die from mechanics. This!!! we have too many people with 700 + AP that has no idea what they are doing. not only the mech but how to use their skills. since we are talking about Asura, good example will be second boss when failed to kill adds. boss is making a huge chi bomb over his head and everyone is still spamming RMB/LMB. no one uses iframe. just stand there and take the hit get back up continue on with RMB/LMB. i even had a group with 3 fm that told me FM doesn't have KD. i was more amazed at my RNG of having random 3 FM all HM8+ not knowing they have KD(really nice ranged AOE double KD!!!) in one group. this thing of people just stacking AP over brain is getting worst every time NC gives away free gears. I do understand why NC is trying to keep the gear gape not too far between new comers and whales, but something must be done so people would know at least what they are playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meginb Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 6 hours ago, Arti said: I've just checked it again and it still says 3 brilliant keys... It's only 1 key per box, I just went from Stage 1 to Stage 10 in two days and used 1 on Asura, 1 on Twisted, 1 on Wildwater and 1 on Accursed boxes. It could be a typo on the tooltip *looks at all the other typos in BnS* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBlackFyre Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I feel your pain 10 runs in one day 4 gauntlets 4 bracers and 2 axes...feels like my razor is never going to drop but I sure it will after I've given up all hope or I see it in a run after I buy a key since I'm planning on getting a key when I get a Asura box next. The last boss fight is easy, I find KD mech of the second boss more problematic what with a warlocks almost total lack of KD. What really annoys me is not being able to run EC I only see people looking for 800-900ap and I'm stuck at 735ap until I can upgrade since it was suggested that I don't upgrade my weapon until I get it to at least stage 4 in one shot to avoid DPS loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Shinwa Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 11 minutes ago, LadyBlackFyre said: I feel your pain 10 runs in one day 4 gauntlets 4 bracers and 2 axes...feels like my razor is never going to drop but I sure it will after I've given up all hope or I see it in a run after I buy a key since I'm planning on getting a key when I get a Asura box next. The last boss fight is easy, I find KD mech of the second boss more problematic what with a warlocks almost total lack of KD. What really annoys me is not being able to run EC I only see people looking for 800-900ap and I'm stuck at 735ap until I can upgrade since it was suggested that I don't upgrade my weapon until I get it to at least stage 4 in one shot to avoid DPS loss. My warlock is in the same case. Unfortunately, those summoner bots that spammed EC ruined for legit players, now everyone is looking for overkill AP for EC to avoid them >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoliDolly Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 all the legendary weapon upgrades can be attained in celestial basin with peach farming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arti Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 19 hours ago, Meginb said: It's only 1 key per box, I just went from Stage 1 to Stage 10 in two days and used 1 on Asura, 1 on Twisted, 1 on Wildwater and 1 on Accursed boxes. It could be a typo on the tooltip *looks at all the other typos in BnS* So I've just bought the key for 6 euros and guess what? I need another 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerber187 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 For those who say 1 key, when the celestial basin patch dropped the asura box requires 3 brilliant silverfrost keys (having spent the better part of 2 weeks farming asura weapons for my toons i know very well that it is 3 keys) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuchin Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 That can only be a patching error and should be reported to Support. There is no legit reason why Asura weapons should need 3 times the brilliant keys than Twisted or others need. :O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arti Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I'll actually make a ticket, let's see what they answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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