TheWa Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 HI! I play bm in this game and players when see me , HM11 814 ap , said im too low for their party cause :"you haven't enough DPS". WTF is that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClairFarron Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Was this in F8 If so it normal, Just ignore and move on nothing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkvard Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Losing 300% threat bonus buff is actually a really huge deal in end game dungeons. Especially if there are people who severely outgear you. So yeah, gotta farm that 8 msp leg. Ss really fast to spam 5 point strike for easier tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephy Kun Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 1 hour ago, arkvard said: Losing 300% threat bonus buff is actually a really huge deal in end game dungeons. Especially if there are people who severely outgear you. So yeah, gotta farm that 8 msp leg. Ss really fast to spam 5 point strike for easier tanking. Idk man, i have HM7 blade master, i dont even have true ivory yet, i'm very very horrible at blade master, and my ping is 200, but i still manage to keep aggro from HM11 players for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFer Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 There is no hating for BMs, there are people who know their classes and dont even care. If you dont have 8 msp so far you aint a real BM. Five point strike is leet with this cdr and dmg increase, also they added 50% dmg on 4 recently so you shouldve farmed it at start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teijin Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 i like this update now i can focus on dps instead of tanking never liked tanking anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbiez Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 2 hours ago, sephy Kun said: Idk man, i have HM7 blade master, i dont even have true ivory yet, i'm very very horrible at blade master, and my ping is 200, but i still manage to keep aggro from HM11 players for some reason the some reason u said...maybe that bm have more worst ping than urs since its always ping>ap/hmlvl/eq etc lol or that bm dont spec threat since i meet some bm that dont spec threat maybe lazy to tank.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawaii Nyan Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Lol maybe the new tank might be kfm and bd D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlausFlouride Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 There was zero reason for them to nerf BM's that hard. It would great IF the dev's actually played this game instead of relying 100% on player feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laosduude Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 4 hours ago, sephy Kun said: Idk man, i have HM7 blade master, i dont even have true ivory yet, i'm very very horrible at blade master, and my ping is 200, but i still manage to keep aggro from HM11 players for some reason hm11 could also mean they did nothing but easy dailies to gain exp, if you showed us what kind of gear they had, that might matter more, so we can relate the gear to the class that isnt being played optimally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkvard Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 6 hours ago, sephy Kun said: Idk man, i have HM7 blade master, i dont even have true ivory yet, i'm very very horrible at blade master, and my ping is 200, but i still manage to keep aggro from HM11 players for some reason yeah i saw many hm 11 with true ivorymoon, the one u tank for might be one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowDashie Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 7 hours ago, KlausFlouride said: There was zero reason for them to nerf BM's that hard. It would great IF the dev's actually played this game instead of relying 100% on player feedback. yeah right a tank with top tier dmg doenst need a nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFer Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I dont really understand what you understand by "nerfing". Dmg wise nothing changed, the only thing that changed is the threat generation. It wasnt really needed for so much threat generation skills to begin with. You dont use five point strike for the threat, you dont use cyclone for the threat. Those are iframe skills in the core. So removing threat from them wasnt really much of an issue since they gave you alternatives (lunar slash and rush now have threat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SauronTheGreat Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Hate goes for every classes except pure dps ones dude. You know these days most people cry for soulburn in f8. But, when they already got a soulburn, people grow into another personalty ... Last night, our pl was announcing '' masts hm 10 + sb fast run ''. He was impatient and went in with 3 people when a warlock joined. Me(destroyer), him(blade dancer) and a warlock ... then he pressed auto-recruit ... all 3 joined were warlocks. The rage he and first warlock spread on all other warlocks were unbearable. They both kept bashing other 3 warlocks for whole run. It was used to be told that bm is the-most overplayed class, next to fm. Now, i rarely see one, still see fms but bm, almost never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbiez Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 41 minutes ago, NightFer said: I dont really understand what you understand by "nerfing". Dmg wise nothing changed, the only thing that changed is the threat generation. It wasnt really needed for so much threat generation skills to begin with. You dont use five point strike for the threat, you dont use cyclone for the threat. Those are iframe skills in the core. So removing threat from them wasnt really much of an issue since they gave you alternatives (lunar slash and rush now have threat). rush already have threat effect even before this 12 april update so idk what *now* you talking about? O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassiveEgo Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Well after a couple of weeks playing with the new system, I can firmly say we haven't really gotten any game breaking aggro skill nerfs. We are two aggro buffs short but that's all. Fundamentally BM gets a max of 250% aggro bonus. There are enough skills to keep that one up at all times, so I personally see no problem with the new system. They did nerf the damage a bit, but when I disabled the HM AP, it turns out I do a little more damage than I did in the past. I do however have ping hovering around 150ms these days, so it's probably better for less laggy players. So technically we lost nothing. The only real complaint I have at this time, is that they got out of their way to screw everything up and force us to build new muscle memory for the class. As to why people hate - they hate cause they're robots that heard we got nerf and think the class is garbage now, while in reality as long as a BM with less than raven is forced to tank a raven player, there is no real utility loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaraKelly Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 The damage really depends on your ping. If you have high ping like me the damage actually reduced severely since I can't do that many DT as I should anymore before this I was losing a few dt but more now way more worse. So it's a severe nert on high ping player really! Also i guess why it seems many thinks it a nerf not a buff maybe because there are actually many high ping BM around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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