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My fresh lv50 fm with the basic ivorymoon weapon and pinnacle accessories at 478 AP (600 with hm points) waaaayyyy outdps my sum with stage 3 baleful + 750 AP. Did I pick the wrong main? I barely know how to play fm other than spamming lb rb 2 and try to stay within my rotation on summ, what's up with FM deeps?

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Dioron   

FM really are dps monsters, and can outdps any other class. But i find exaggerated that u are outdpsing your main xd 

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Kisagii   

If it's doing more dps than your summoner than you are seriously doing something wrong with that class.

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Munifex   

Those who says FM are weak, they are wrong. FM is a monster! Force master is one of the strongest DPS class but the cons of force master is they cancel other force master since you're sharing ember + burn debuff on the enemy. A FM with 800AP (approximately 900AP with HM points) deal over 200K per second

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Mirryn   

Umm... Embers are not relevant to FM dps and Burn is a shared debuff such that multiple FMs only need to keep up one copy of it.

You, sir, have some fundamental misunderstandings about the functioning of FMs.

 

and AP is a useless measurement for DPS... full BT gear @800 AP will do about 3x as much damage as someone at 1000 AP with no BT gear.

 

 

And as for the OP... sounds like you're doing something wrong on your summoner, or you're just looking at 10 second fights.

FMs do have some wild off-the-gun burst, especially in BT gear, though not the best.

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Dlacik   

I think the main reason is the low gear and probably missing HM skills on both chars.

Summoner's high dps builds depends heavily on HM skills and high crit chance, otherwise there are problems with focus that slows them down. On the otherside FM's burn build doesn't realy need high crit chance or HM skills to work well.

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