kitter Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 you know, the weapon that gives it's wielder godly smiting abilities?? Because releasing a weapon that completely ignores defence and crit defence, for "PVE" while PvP users do not get the same equivalent or even an upgrade at all? How are people in pvp supposed to compete using a crappy outdated pvp weapon that rarely even procs therefore rendered completely useless by raven, a pve weapon. Because bosses seem to require defence and crit defense piercing to beat :thinking: It's almost like NC wants PvP to die on this game, which is literally the only redeeming feature apart from the fashion dress up part of the game;^). ・Releasing a standardised battleground? Nah let's not do that, that's a crazy idea! (even though they literally have hell battleground that theyre never going to use) ・Release a pvp weapon that's actually useful? Nahhhh why bother, if people want to pvp they'll have to spend a lot of money on what is literally the offspring of the gm weapons, i can't even imagine what pvp is going to be like in a few months time where the next weapon of raven is released and I'm still stuck on galaxy. There'll be literal people running around with the equivalent of gm weapons in pvp which is just lovely! Forget stacking defense and crit defense, just max out your piercing and one shot people with 150k-200k hp, bc PvP! Skill! Balancing! bladeandsoul in a nutshell, and i only started playing this game because i heard the pvp was pretty good .-. boy was i wrong rant over thank for listen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auggie Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 you know I agree with you 100% PVP is something I enjoy doing but when it comes to facing people with Raven weapons is just a waste of time, I'm @ Seraph stage 10, cant enjoy PVP when I'm getting kill with one combo, cant work on trying to even get the items to get to Raven coz my Guild only has 3 active people in it, so cant really go do the raid, and even if we had the people just don't have the time to do it. so yeah release a weapon strong enough to have a chance with people with Raven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuchin Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Unlock Emperor!!! =:3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylmarien Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Raven weapons are super stupid by themself. I remember these hongmoon weapons, were u had like 20 % dmg in a skill. How do u jump from 20 % to 200 % ? or even more ... Even if they had just more AP and 50 % on a skill they would already been worth getting. But no... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNina Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 4 hours ago, Shuchin said: Unlock Emperor!!! =:3 Lol, the raven users aka whales dont want that to be happen, they said emperor will be better than raven at pvp and pve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylmarien Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 11 hours ago, xNina said: Lol, the raven users aka whales dont want that to be happen, they said emperor will be better than raven at pvp and pve Im not a Raven user and dont want this to happen either. Emepror should be better for PvPand Raven for PvE. I dont see why one should be better in both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallenangelll Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 emperor weapon will be op in pvp and pve, but will not be as good in pve as raven is, thats just down to ravens crazy element damage. but we don't only need emperor weapon to come out, they need to change the pvp and pve stats to be separate already. when you press P you can see all yours stats, and two of them say Boss def and PvP def. same with attack power. once these changes has been made any pve item in pvp will become useless. which i know allot of people will complain about, but that's how its meant to be. otherwise theres no point in pvp items in the game at all. i must say though, this image says it all. im using galaxy stage 12 atm and doin more damage than any stage 12 baleful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuchin Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I am doing more damage in PvE with my Seraph 7 than with my Galaxy 11, that might depend on class and badges etc though. And I doubt the fact that PvP specific stats are introduced will mean that items with these stats will come from PvP currencies. CC damage is already pretty PvP specific and the new CCdam/expertise set they started to introduce now comes from ... Naryu Sanctum, an endgame PvE dungeon. :P Would not put it past NCSoft to put PvP damage stats on True Soul or something equally unattainable for PvPers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNina Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Fallenangelll said: emperor weapon will be op in pvp and pve, but will not be as good in pve as raven is, thats just down to ravens crazy element damage. but we don't only need emperor weapon to come out, they need to change the pvp and pve stats to be separate already. when you press P you can see all yours stats, and two of them say Boss def and PvP def. same with attack power. once these changes has been made any pve item in pvp will become useless. which i know allot of people will complain about, but that's how its meant to be. otherwise theres no point in pvp items in the game at all. i must say though, this image says it all. im using galaxy stage 12 atm and doin more damage than any stage 12 baleful Galaxy user also, 3.3k cri def and raven pve thing just 4-5 shot to kill ncsoft need a brain they cant do nothing good..... they should remove or make a pvp item that make you inmune to element dmg element is for pve and cri dmg for pvp >>>>cri def for pvp defense before was this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallenangelll Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 ye removing element damage in pvp would help allot. i've been near enough 1 shotted by a full geared player with raven and both element acc during galaxy effect. now i have 4k crit def and 14k def (71% damage reduction) during galaxy effect. yet that doesn't mean shit to raven users. they should remove element damage all together during 6v6 or like you said, have pvp items that cancel them out. though i hope this coming patch they add emperor weapon, otherwise im just gona quite doing 6v6. im not gona waste time and gold upgrading another weapon to get raven, just so i can pvp against other raven users. i should change that image saying, make 6v6 great again. (so i can see how many want it or not https://goo.gl/ZLr5DG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I don't know why people complaining when battleground was introduced as a unequalized form of pvp . You want balanced stats just go to arena, the option is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Jesus Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I agree that elemental damages are broking battlegrounds. Just make any playing character ignoring elemental damages to keep elemental damages for PvE and everything will be ok. No more 2 shots when you are full PvP stuffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallenangelll Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 @Untouchable " I don't know why people complaining when battleground was introduced as a unequalized form of pvp . You want balanced stats just go to arena, the option is there. " i don't mind the idea of battleground introducing different stats for everyone, so some people can be more op to others. but its when you have someone with full maxed out gear for pve go against someone with maxed out pvp gear, then the pvper gets 1 shoted buy the pve-er. how the ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ is that meant to make sense. thats saying ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ you people who play the game for pvp content you should have done pve to get better for pvp. and arena's the biggest pile of shit i've ever seen. they change the stats in that every ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ing weak. and its near enough gave everyone 1/3 of the health you would have open-world pvp, and the damage of a raven weapon. you use tab in arena, everyone class has a chance to 100-0 you easy. but this is besides the point. all i want is open-world pvp to be like this. if your using pve items against someone using pvp gear, your ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ed. as thats how its meant to be. and has been in anyother mmorpg game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiro Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 They will add emperor weapon soon, but if you think Raven weapon alone causes the "1 shots", you'll be in for a big surprise. You will still melt against emperor weapon users with max elemental accessories and soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Shiro said: They will add emperor weapon soon, but if you think Raven weapon alone causes the "1 shots", you'll be in for a big surprise. You will still melt against emperor weapon users with max elemental accessories and soul. Duh, Once you go under cc and you facing emperor you pretty dead. Like if you got Emperor Destroyer that just stun you then smash (x) you, you are pretty dead since you going to get like 300% more damage on CC from both smash skill (X) and emperor power. As for pve part, Emperor will be better at solo pve not group pve. Since it more powerful in defense status and powerful on cc enemy, So pretty much TOI and mushin tower the top of them going to be emperor holder not Raven. And yes it fair enough that pvp weapon holder top in TOI, since it use the status of pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Pve gear is better though so why would you be screwed facing someone with pvp gear takes far more work and time for pve gear. You still survive better than someone in pve gear you both still destroy each other. Pvp gear catches up go get gud and get raven . Kr went through this and still is everyone knew it was gonna happen you cant check peoples gear who put in way more time money and effort while they get stomped by technically weaker gear they use pvp shields too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Pve gear is better though so why would you be screwed facing someone with pvp gear takes far more work and time for pve gear. You still survive better than someone in pve gear you both still destroy each other. Pvp gear catches up go get gud and get raven . Kr went through this and still is everyone knew it was gonna happen you cant check peoples gear who put in way more time money and effort while they get stomped by technically weaker gear they use pvp shields too. Cause you are playing a 6v6 a pvp, where a pvp stuff should be have the upper hand. It not about the time you spend on character, it about the gear fit the need of this and this. You talking about spending more time to get pve gear? If you want to pvp spend more time on pvp not pve. Easy as that but I see you here, just want to spend your time on pve and come to rekt people at pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Well I don't have raven I use galaxy cause it was cheaper at the time but I don't believe in putting restrictions on what was designed as a form of pvp where stats mattered and weren't to be regulated. When galaxy came out it shat on those with bale and seraph you just gotta wait for the pvp gear to catch up. Now getting pvp gear buffed is fine but nerfing is never okay with me when it's naturally better and harder earned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallenangelll Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 well NCsoft support must of listened to my suggestion a few weeks ago. tomorrow, Wed 28th, we're gettin most of the new pvp items, so new SS and the emperor weapon stage 1-6. all good stuff. time to ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ raven users in the ass ^ ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuchin Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 It's pretty balanced now, with Ascendant lagging "only" 3 stages behind Raven now. Crti def will also be worth more now with many PvE builds switching over to the 8 second souls, so the burst cannot overcome crit def as easily any more. And Shiro is right, Raven weapon is only a small part of the problem. Elemental damage comes from many sources, including the new Obsidian gems, which is another 6v6 impacting perk that is exclusively PvE. So current best gear for 6v6 will need a lot of effort in both PvE endgame dungeons and in PvP, given the crazy ~ 1 million battle points needed to max out a Beluga SS set... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNina Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Fallenangelll said: well NCsoft support must of listened to my suggestion a few weeks ago. tomorrow, Wed 28th, we're gettin most of the new pvp items, so new SS and the emperor weapon stage 1-6. all good stuff. time to ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ raven users in the ass ^ ^ Yes! Now we get 1 shot by ascendant users but it has to be this way not getting 1 shot by ravens but finally something can counter that sht pve weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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