Evolution streamlining ( weapon path ) official update

[FlameWizard]

BnS posted and official update on weapon path update: http://www.bladeandsoul.com/en/news/evolution-streamlining/

 

Weapons

Here’s a look at the new pre-Silverfrost Mountains weapons that will be rewarded directly after the update.

Act	Quest/Location	Weapon Name
0	Chapter 5. Disciple of the Hongmoon School	Training Weapon
1	Chapter 7: Endless Dusk	Stalker Weapon
1	Chapter 11: Gone Fishing	Bamboo Guard Weapon
1	Chapter 21: Child's Slay	Sablesteel Weapon
1	*Blackram Narrows	Blight Weapon
2	Chapter 7: The Dark Glimpse	Corrupted Weapon
2	Chapter 18: The Book Thieves	Frostbite Weapon
2	Chapter 34: The Enemy of My Enemy	Valiant Weapon
2	*Tomb of the Exiles	Infernal Weapon
3	Chapter 7: Bark At The Moon	Lycan Weapon
3	Chapter 17: Strange Aeons	Skyhaven Weapon
3	Chapter 23: The Sky's Burden	Dokumo Weapon
3	*Blackram Supply Chain	Siren Weapon
3	*Bloodshade Harbor	Pirate Weapon

*Optional, more powerful weapons available as rare drops from Heroic Dungeons.

Once you reach Silverfrost weapon progression—where you will begin upgrading your weapon—you’ll benefit from a reduced upgrade cost and a simplified upgrade path. After completing Act 4, Chapter 1: The Road to Darkness, you will receive your Ivorymoon weapon. Ivorymoon is comparative to True Profane, and True Ivorymoon is comparative to True Scorpio. The intermediary upgrades have also been simplified, and overall costs have been greatly reduced.

Here is the cost breakdown for the new Ivorymoon weapon Evolution:

Equipped Weapon	After Evolution	Evolved AP	Cost Path 1	Cost Path 2
Ivorymoon - Stage 5	Ivorymoon - Stage 6	268	Soulstone x30	N/A
			Silverfrost Mountain Dew x30
			Frosty Weapon (Shrieking Caverns)
Ivorymoon - Stage 10	Awakened Ivorymoon - Stage 1	298	Soulstone x140	Soulstone x70
			Moonstone x30	Moonstone x15
			Frozen Stinger x100	Frozen Stinger x50
			Silverfrost Transformation Stone x2	Silverfrost Transformation Stone x1
			Naryu Tablet x1	Naryu Tablet x5
			Yeti Weapon (Avalanche Den)	Silverfrost Refining Stone x75
				Tormented Weapon (Avalanche Den; Lair of the Frozen Fang; Awakened Necropolis)
Awakened Ivorymoon - Stage 5	Awakened Ivorymoon - Stage 6	317	Soulstone x40	N/A
			Moonstone x10
			Frozen Stinger x30
			King Weapon (Chuanka Frost Cavern)
Awakened Ivorymoon - Stage 10	True Ivorymoon - Stage 1	353	Soulstone x240	Soulstone x120
			Moonstone x60	Moonstone x30
			Frozen Stinger x200	Frozen Stinger x100
			Silverfrost Transformation Stone x5	Silverfrost Transformation Stone x3
			Naryu Tablet x3	Naryu Tablet x25
			Scorpio Weapon (Awakened Necropolis)	Silverfrost Refining Stone x105
				Tormented Weapon (Avalanche Den; Lair of the Frozen Fang; Awakened Necropolis)
True Ivorymoon - Stage 5	True Ivorymoon - Stage 6	364	Soulstone x60	N/A
			Moonstone x15
			Frozen Stinger x50
			Alpine Weapon (Sogun’s Lament, Lair of the Frozen Fang, Sundered Nexus, Avalanche Den, Awakened Necropolis, Gloomdross Incursion, The Shattered Masts)

 

If you have any weapon up to and including True Scorpio, upon logging in after the update you’ll be prompted to Salvage your weapon. Salvaging the weapon will provide you with the new equivalent weapon, and in some cases will also return some of the upgrade materials and gold you spent. In the table below you can see what your weapon will turn into when Salvaged, its new Attack Power (AP) rating, and any returned materials.

Previous Weapon	AP	New Weapon	AP	Returned Materials
Hongmoon Weapon - Stages 1-10	67	Golden Deva Weapon	89
Awakened Blight Weapon - Stages 1-10	109	Infernal Weapon	147
True Blight Weapon - Stages 1-10	154	Profane Sword	194
Awakened Infernal Weapon - Stages 1-10	179	Forgotten Brightstone Weapon	201
True Infernal Weapon - Stages 1-10	212	Siren Weapon	242
Awakened Profane Weapon - Stages 1-10	250	Pirate Weapon	263
True Profane Weapon - Stages 1-10	265	Ivorymoon Weapon - Stage 10	280	5 Gem Hammers
Oathbreaker Weapon - Stages 1-10	273	Ivorymoon Weapon - Stage 10	280	18 Gem Hammers, 3 Gold
True Siren Weapon - Stages 1-10	279	Ivorymoon Weapon - Stage 10	280	5 Gem Hammers, 3 Gold
Awakened Oathbreaker Weapon - Stages 1-10	281	Awakened Ivorymoon Weapon - Stage 1	298	18 Gem Hammers, 5 Gold
True Oathbreaker Weapon - Stages 1-10	297	Awakened Ivorymoon Weapon - Stage 6	317	18 Gem Hammers, 5 Gold
True Pirate Weapon - Stages 1-10	310	Awakened Ivorymoon Weapon - Stage 6	317	5 Gem Hammers, 5 Gold
Awakened Breeze Weapon - Stages 1-10	315	Awakened Ivorymoon Weapon - Stage 10	332	18 Gem Hammers, 5 Gold
True Breeze Weapon - Stages 1-10	332	True Ivorymoon Weapon - Stage 1	353	18 Gem Hammers, 5 Gold
Awakened Scorpio Weapon - Stages 1-10	351	True Ivorymoon Weapon - Stage 6	364	18 Gem Hammers, 5 Gold
True Scorpio Weapon - Stages 1-10	372	True Ivorymoon Weapon - Stage 10	372	18 Gem Hammers, 5 Gold, Hongmoon Legacy Chest

 

The Hongmoon Legacy Chest contains the following items:

• Soulstone (x250)
• Moonstone (x70)
• Frozen Stinger (x200)
• Naryu Tablet (x15)
• Silverfrost Refining Stone (x150)

Accessories

The accessory path changes only impact new characters, who will see a change in the items they receive. New users will obtain the new Sterling/Ivorymoon accessories through epic quests, while existing characters will keep their current accessories. Existing characters can also acquire the new Ivorymoon accessories from the Silverfrost Valor Stone Trader NPC in Grand Harvest Square for 10 Silverfrost Valor Stones each.

Here’s a look at the new accessories that will be rewarded directly after the update.

Before Silverfrost Mountains:

Act	Quest/Location	Necklace	Earring	Ring	Bracelet	Belt
1	Chapter 13: A Bridge Too Far Gone	Plague Necklace
	Chapter 16: The Eight Masters		Wu Fu Earring
	Chapter 18: Shroom to Grow			Dura's Ring
	*Blackram Narrows	Blight Necklace	Blight Earring	Blight Ring
2	Chapter 2: You and What Army?	Hakan Necklace	Samja's Earring	Ukaha's Ring
	*Tomb of the Exiles	Infernal Necklace	Infernal Earring	Infernal Ring
3	Chapter 2: A Link to the Past and Present	Abomination Necklace	Augerite Earring	Huren Ring
	*Blackram Supply Chain	Siren Necklace	Siren Earring	Siren Ring	Siren Bracelet
	*Bloodshare Harbor	Pirate Necklace	Pirate Earring	Pirate Ring		Pirate Belt

*Optional, more powerful accessories available as rare drops from Heroic Dungeons.

In addition, two new sets of accessories are being added to the game: Lucent and Pinnacle. These are slightly better than Ivorymoon accessories, but are obtained as rare drops from Heroic Dungeons.

Silverfrost Mountains:

Act	Quest/Location	Necklace	Earring	Ring	Bracelet	Belt
4	Chapter 4: Forcing the Enforcer			Sterling Ring
4	Chapter 7: Legitimate Business Practices	Sterling Necklace
4	Chapter 13: The Royal Martial Arts Championship		Sterling Earring
4	Chapter 16: Business Unusual			Ivorymoon Ring
4	Chapter 19: Damning Evidence	Ivorymoon Necklace
4	Chapter 22: The Eight Masters' Sacrifice		Ivorymoon Earring
4	Chapter 25: Mother's Garden				Ivorymoon Bracelet
4	Chapter 28: Her Brother's Keeper					Ivorymoon Belt
	*Avalanche Den			Lucent Ring
	*Lair of the Frozen Fang	Lucent Necklace			Lucent Bracelet
	*Awakened Necropolis		Lucent Earring			Lucent Belt
	*Gloomdross Incursion			Pinnacle Ring
	*Shattered Masts	Pinnacle Necklace			Pinnacle Bracelet
	*Sogun's Lament		Pinnacle Earring			Pinnacle Belt

*Optional, more powerful accessories are available as rare drops from Heroic Dungeons.

Finally, some of the existing accessories are going to have their stats and drop locations updated. If you currently own some of these accessories, you may want to hold onto them as they are going to receive a significant power buff:

Old Name	New Name
Asura	Pinnacle
Python/Yeti/Scorpio	Lucent
Oathbreaker	Ivorymoon

[MasterYoda]

So I have try scorpion that means I will be getting the new weapon +some stuff

I like it so far, but I am still way behind some players hoping they make things a little bit easier to catch up to them.

Lastly they don't talk about cost reduction from true scorpion/new weapon to legendary and jewellery, that means there isn'the one?

[Meliran]

Personally, this change for me almost kills the game. It's a great change for 99% of the players, but for me personally, about 1/2 of my fun in this game was in crafting and making profits off of moonwater transformation stones. You can't do it with silverfrost transformation stones since moonstones tend to make the craft more expensive than just buying it off the marketplace - last I checked crafting a batch of silverfrost stones was a -4 gold profit which moonwaters are +6g.

 

I do enjoy the dungeons and the graphics of the game, but I'm also expecting a bit of an AP creep. Right now for dungeons like GI, SL, and SM I can find groups asking for 550+, but after this update I'm expecting that to become 650+, locking me out of those dungeons.

[Pkmdz]

39 minutes ago, Meliran said:

Personally, this change for me almost kills the game. It's a great change for 99% of the players, but for me personally, about 1/2 of my fun in this game was in crafting and making profits off of moonwater transformation stones. You can't do it with silverfrost transformation stones since moonstones tend to make the craft more expensive than just buying it off the marketplace - last I checked crafting a batch of silverfrost stones was a -4 gold profit which moonwaters are +6g.

 

I do enjoy the dungeons and the graphics of the game, but I'm also expecting a bit of an AP creep. Right now for dungeons like GI, SL, and SM I can find groups asking for 550+, but after this update I'm expecting that to become 650+, locking me out of those dungeons.

I wouldn't lock you out. And if you can't join a room make one and recruit yourself with fair requirements. 

[FlameWizard]

This was kind of expected to happen sooner or later (as it happens with many mmo's over time), there is no point to keep players stuck in (old) moonwater content when bunch of new content being added at a fairly fast pase. Also you should have realised that MTS will become more doomed from the moment the farmable items for them became more abundant.

[Prototypemind]

If I have an alt that's at Awakened Pirate does anyone know for certain what it should convert to? I'm guessing it will be treated as True Oathbreaker, but just wondering.

[Raizou]

15 hours ago, Prototypemind said:

If I have an alt that's at Awakened Pirate does anyone know for certain what it should convert to? I'm guessing it will be treated as True Oathbreaker, but just wondering.

First:

 

2.

True Pirate Weapon - Stages 1-10

(310AP

)    ----------->    Awakened Ivorymoon Weapon - Stage 6

(317

AP)   +       5 Gem Hammers, 5 Gold

[Prototypemind]

Hmmm

9 hours ago, Raizou said:

First:

 

2.

True Pirate Weapon - Stages 1-10

(310AP

)    ----------->    Awakened Ivorymoon Weapon - Stage 6

(317

AP)   +       5 Gem Hammers, 5 Gold

Hmmm, so I guess that means items at in-between stages still require a little tedium to take care of. Ah well.

 

I was thinking that my best bet was to wait, but looking at the cost to go from Awakened Ivorymoon Stage 5 to Stage 6 I guess I'm better off biting the bullet now.

[KzE]

This is nice... but one year late :D

[Yndril]

I'm a little conflicted by this change, I upgraded to true scorpio like, an hour before the announcement? Maybe even at the same time, I wasn't watching the stream... That is all fine I guess, pretty much get back what it costed me to upgrade... but what irritates me is that I just spent a lot of time and money to upgrade to pre-legendary on my de facto main, just to have my two main wannabes suddenly catch up to my main with less than one fourth of the cost and they already have the materials for that... and I was really disappointed to see that everyone from oathbreaker forward get the same thing, 5 gold and 18 gem hammers, the only exception being true scorpio that also get a very modest reimbursement.

 

But one thing about that post confuses me, and they never adressed that in the stream either; What happens to accessories? Can we still upgrade them? I mean, 30 Legendary gems is quite a lot, if we are one stage away from true python, scorpio or yeti, will we be lucked out and won't be able to upgrade it? Or can we salvage them and get some legendary jewels? Way too lacking in information regarding the accessories!

[Raizou]

24 minutes ago, Yndril said:

But one thing about that post confuses me, and they never adressed that in the stream either; What happens to accessories? Can we still upgrade them? I mean, 30 Legendary gems is quite a lot, if we are one stage away from true python, scorpio or yeti, will we be lucked out and won't be able to upgrade it? Or can we salvage them and get some legendary jewels? Way too lacking in information regarding the accessories!

"

Accessories

The accessory path changes only impact new characters, who will see a change in the items they receive. New users will obtain the new Sterling/Ivorymoon accessories through epic quests, while existing characters will keep their current accessories. Existing characters can also acquire the new Ivorymoon accessories from the Silverfrost Valor Stone Trader NPC in Grand Harvest Square for 10 Silverfrost Valor Stones each."

 

I think you can upgrade your accessoires, because:

 

 

 

[Yndril]

36 minutes ago, Raizou said:

"

Accessories

The accessory path changes only impact new characters, who will see a change in the items they receive. New users will obtain the new Sterling/Ivorymoon accessories through epic quests, while existing characters will keep their current accessories. Existing characters can also acquire the new Ivorymoon accessories from the Silverfrost Valor Stone Trader NPC in Grand Harvest Square for 10 Silverfrost Valor Stones each."

 

I think you can upgrade your accessoires, because:

 

 

 

Can't remember that part of the post from yesterday, was definitely no words about it being buyable with valor stones I'm sure. That answers some of my questions. The current path most likely will still exist then, but then rise the problem about Asura accessories, it sounded like they would be replaced with the new ones, does the path for the Oathbreaker change to reflect that? Or are you screwed if you didn't farm Asura before it got replaced? Or do they mean replace literally so that Asura will pretty much just change name?

[Rochelle2016]

Any new upgrade paths for Galaxy weapons?

[FlameWizard]

nope they are too new

[Yndril]

9 minutes ago, Rochelle2016 said:

Any new upgrade paths for Galaxy weapons?

Galaxy weapon is legendary, and I'm pretty sure they said they wouldn't change any costs or paths for legendary (just add the one succeeding Baleful/serpah's).

[Serbine]

From what it sound like the accessories are just there as substitutes, so you can use them in the meantime until you can fully max out your hongmoon accessories, if you want to that is for the legendary jewels or could jump right to legendary accessories 'if you can get them that is'. 

[Shadzar]

Can someone explain to me please how this is going to work? is it just going to ask you to salvage your equipped weapons or ALL of them?

 

I have a True Pirate 10 that i worked my butt off for! I am no where near able to upgrade it, nor after all the trouble do i want to get rid of it. Will i be able to keep it somehow and salvage other weapons and work on upgrading them instead?

 

I also have True Infernal 10 weapon i keep on me for when i am with lower level players and as a spare weapon where i put my lower quality AP gems on since the sockets in 1 weapon take less space that each gem in a slot in the vault, 4 gems fit in 1 slot being PART of the weapon.

 

Also for gem reasons I have a spare Hongmoon 10.. because i would just let them break and throw them away early game so i had 10 and broke 7 cause the Hongmoon weapon was cheaper than buying repair hammers :P

 

So do I need to just put my True Infernal into my equip slot and it will be the only one it tries to salvage, or will it try to salvage ALL of my weapons at once, or all of them one at a time?

 

what do?

 

Also this mentions NOTHING about gem sockets for these new weapons. I predict another Gem Hammer fiasco like before where things are lost, and no information is given. Obviously i NEVER got my gem hammers from before because they expected you to get from Pirate Weapon to the SilverFrost line in like 1 week to qualify. But who cares.. I just don't want to lose my Pirate weapon i worked my butt off for all those warrior tokens, and i like the look of it also!

[Yndril]

I think you have to manually salvage all weapons, it will just hint you to do so. Hope we get our weapon skin back too though, not going to test if it does on my main, removing that skin before the patch, just in case.

[Raizou]

1 hour ago, Shadzar said:

I have a True Pirate 10 that i worked my butt off for! I am no where near able to upgrade it, nor after all the trouble do i want to get rid of it. Will i be able to keep it somehow and salvage other weapons and work on upgrading them instead?

 

Why not salvage it? You will get this after salvaging:

 

True Pirate Weapon - Stages 1-10

(310 AP)   ------------>

Awakened Ivorymoon Weapon - Stage 6

(317

AP)         +        5 Gem Hammers, 5 Gold

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Shadzar said:

Can someone explain to me please how this is going to work? is it just going to ask you to salvage your equipped weapons or ALL of them?

I think, that the system wont salvage your weapons directly, you have to salvage them by yourself. If you say, that you want to keep them, farm the new ones and upgrade them instead of your old weapon, then its doable. I think, there will everytime a pop up message, which informs you to salvage the weapon.

[Vezperz]

Anyone else think that the amount of gold they're giving us back is a joke?

It should at least be ten to twenty times the gold they're offering, especially for those of us that spent that amount just a day or two before the announcement came out.

 

[XO]

As a precaution I would remove the skins and all gems from weapons before salvaging seeing as how we are also getting free gem hammers....that would suck terribly if you had alot of hongmoon gems on them than they vanished

[FlameWizard]

3 hours ago, Vezperz said:

Anyone else think that the amount of gold they're giving us back is a joke?

It should at least be ten to twenty times the gold they're offering, especially for those of us that spent that amount just a day or two before the announcement came out.

 

Shouldnt you say, what about those that payed the full price and the first to get the gear! No matter what the management does no one is happy. 

 

The managment may refund some players if they send a ticket, but then again its up to them to do it.

 

This update mainly to bring everyone to higher AP tier so that everyone can enjoy higher level contect instead of being stuck in 300~400 AP range.

 

 

 

[FlameWizard]

2 minutes ago, Yndril said:

That is what it's supposed to do in theory, but in practice, what it'll do is increase the AP requirements for all dungeons. Most people aren't asking for AP because they want more overall damage, most people are asking for experience. If it's easier to get more AP, the new 500+ will be 600+, the new 650+ will be 750+. I generally like the change, especially for my many alts, but its definitely a "nerf" for my main.

intentions and results may differ, but its better to do something than not.

[Yndril]

16 minutes ago, FlameWizard said:

This update mainly to bring everyone to higher AP tier so that everyone can enjoy higher level contect instead of being stuck in 300~400 AP range.

That is what it's supposed to do in theory, but in practice, what it'll do is increase the AP requirements for all dungeons. Most people aren't asking for AP because they want more overall damage, most people are asking for experience. If it's easier to get more AP, the new 500+ will be 600+, the new 650+ will be 750+. I generally like the change, especially for my many alts, but its definitely a "nerf" for my main.

[Yndril]

1 hour ago, FlameWizard said:

intentions and results may differ, but its better to do something than not.

I don't disagree with you there, any attempts are welcome in my eyes. Their intentions is good at least, whatever result might come of it.