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Shîro

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14 hours ago, Shîro said:

Sorry NCSoft- you are telling us to "work hard" yet you did lazy job by just "putting it to RNG" you did 0 effort creating any possibility for people to actually "work hard" to get. Zero creativity, zero effort. No wonder you dropped from 3 mil player to 1...

Doubt this game has 1 million players, unless you're counting bots.

 

Anyway the only RL equivalence you can aptly use to describe BnS is: How tedious and strenuous was traffic on your way to the casinos or lottery distributor?

 

Because thats exactly what BnS is. A lengthy, lonely, boring trip to Las Vegas. With local pit stops to various gas stations to refuel, buy porn, and play lotto.

 

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7 hours ago, Nattia said:

In the game there is 

173887 characters

https://bnstree.com/character

 

no idea if there ever was 3mil people playing O.o

and i would guess, that 95 perc arent active at all, and 3 perc at min are alts of those 2 perc.

5 hours ago, Suna said:

I think that 3m is combined kr, cn, jp, tw, na, eu, ru.

i think that is all mmos out there, combined, and they mean it in general, join mmo players :P

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Everything in this game is dependent on RNG. There's an RNG chance you'll even get credit for kills in SSP because the devs simply love trolling half the players who work hard to attack those ridiculously dangerous terrors, then reward them with a big fat middle finger. All that just for an RNG box where there's a 80% chance to get absolutely nothing. RNG to get credit for an RNG box to drop. Lol smh.

 

Here are more ideas for you dev on how to ruin your game even more with RNG:

 

  • RNG chance to level up, if you fail RNG, you either reset to 0% exp, or go back a level
  • RNG chance to get credit or a chest for anything in SSP even if you dealt enough damage. RNG chest inside the current RNG chest, so basically there's a 20% chance you'll get the RNG chest inside the RNG chest that the boss drops, 80% to get a "try again" note worth 1 copper. That'll surely improve SSP and make it more "competitive" or whatever term the devs said
  • RNG chance boar will spawn in SSP. Immune to all damage unless you have "anti-boar buff". RNG chance to get this buff. Only players with 750+ AP will get this buff. This will certainly make boar even more impossible for most players which is exactly what you're looking for
  • RNG chance to complete a quest. NPC will randomly say "screw you, go do the quest again cause I feel like it"
  • RNG chance for dungeon final boss to spawn, cause it's totally awesome for the grind-lovers to go through entire dungeon for absolutely nothing, they'll have fun running through the same thing again with no drops!
  • RNG chance to get robbed when doing quests. Every 1000 steps you run has a chance to lose 10% of your gold from invisible bandits
  • RNG chance to disconnect anywhere anytime, oh wait this has already been implemented
  • RNG chance that you won't get anything when buying stuff from cash shop, oh wait this has already been implemented via RNG boxes

 

You're welcome, don't forget to credit me if you use these in your future patches.

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17 hours ago, KzE said:

If you need "work hard" in a game... its fkin bad :D

well, work hard for something in game is ..something..

work hard as "test your RNG" is actually silly and stupid at some point... 

 

9 hours ago, Nattia said:

In the game there is 

173887 characters

https://bnstree.com/character

 

no idea if there ever was 3mil people playing O.o

those characters are the ones registered on bnstree.com 

so no valid stat

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For those asking for the ring and necklace to be put into the cash shop, I think this would be a very bad idea. It would make it so that whales would be able to get it and hard working free players would still be out of luck. It would also hurt the end-game as some have said. Putting items that give your character more power instead of just cosmetic items would be true P2W like they did with Black Desert Online.

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21 minutes ago, studioMagicalFox said:

For those asking for the ring and necklace to be put into the cash shop, I think this would be a very bad idea. It would make it so that whales would be able to get it and hard working free players would still be out of luck. It would also hurt the end-game as some have said. Putting items that give your character more power instead of just cosmetic items would be true P2W like they did with Black Desert Online.

you mean, like gems? or premium stones? lol

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6 minutes ago, studioMagicalFox said:

Yes like gems, for sure, being able to buy AP is P2W in my book. Premium stones, well items that help upgrade gear thus giving power also probably have no place in the cash shop.

well f2p cash shops are never fair, thats acceptable, but when you have no other way to get items, only by this (doesnt really matter that you can ctrl+c much), then its true p2w

edit oh yea well you can get them in rng events half year later, i forgot

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1 minute ago, babeln said:

well f2p cash shops are never fair, thats acceptable, but when you have no other way to get items, only by this (doesnt really matter that you can ctrl+c much), then its true p2w

Agreed. Having items which increase your power that are only available to players willing to open their wallets is P2W in it's truest form. We can only hope that BnS never de-evolves into that state.

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12 hours ago, Lunakitty said:

What else is there at end game than to do those dungeons for the legendary accessory drops? As far as I know answer is nothing so making the accessory available in other ways than the dungeon would be killing the only bit of endgame we now have. Maybe just increase the droprate even more.

 

No Increasing drop chance is not the cause as I said. You need a way so you know "when" will you get it, or how long would you take it to get it- as you know for weapon.
Not even saying that you can't "max everything" in game, yet. Even if you are top gear right now (even with ring and neck stage 10) you need to go farm tons of golds for belts that will come next patch, then for legendary soul badges, soul, up your pet, then next 3 stages of leg weapon, etc..

We are still too far behind compare to KR and if you imagine yourself with 3k golds then you will need 10x more to even have some of those.

 

I am not here to cry about drop rates but about their way of things. They say "work hard" but how? Go dungeon more often ? Dang I would go it 100 times anyway even if I drop ring on 1st run or eve if I would need to do 300 clear run to buy it from vendor. Game is here to have fun -what else is left if they take off the factor of "fun" and replace it with confusion of "will I drop it in 300 runs or not"

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23 hours ago, DamnedYankee said:

The gaming culture between Western and Eastern players is vast in their attitudes towards what they are willing to do and not willing to do in terms of end-game grinding. NCsoft has barely shown any inclination to understanding the mindset of the Western players in the sense they try to apply the same narrative their Eastern players are willing to accept on the Western players.

 

FYI, legendary accessories on CN servers can be and are sold on the AH, which removes the need for the repeated dungeon grind. I don't think east vs west is relevant in this discussion.

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2 hours ago, KzE said:

Look at the TOP5 items at the end. It shows how hard ppl like work in games :D

xD Is that website even anything close to the actual situation. It seems to me like no one's updating that since it still has the old skills in there so seems really outdated website imo. Something that should not be quoted as reference for anything anymore.

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8 hours ago, Lunakitty said:

xD Is that website even anything close to the actual situation. It seems to me like no one's updating that since it still has the old skills in there so seems really outdated website imo. Something that should not be quoted as reference for anything anymore.

https://beta.bnstree.com/
this is BnStree 4.0

https://bnstree.com/update/BkVAnGoj

this is the update notice behind it.

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18 hours ago, RainbowDashie said:

https://beta.bnstree.com/
this is BnStree 4.0

https://bnstree.com/update/BkVAnGoj

this is the update notice behind it.

Doesn't tho have anything for me. It's just shell of a website without any actual skills and seems like it's been like that for over a month. I wonder if they are actually working on it anymore or is it just my browser that doesn't like it. xD

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1 hour ago, Lunakitty said:

Doesn't tho have anything for me. It's just shell of a website without any actual skills and seems like it's been like that for over a month. I wonder if they are actually working on it anymore or is it just my browser that doesn't like it. xD

u have to choose on the top right side a class. i.e  https://beta.bnstree.com/tree/BM

then you can choose on bottom side which class you want. atm there a BM, KfM, FM, BD and WL available. 

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