rainbowkitten Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 then you can say the winner also inspired by those people he admired too, right? why he can't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julymarte Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 because he traced as i said tracing and being inspired are 2 different things... the jin clothes are INSPIRED by olivia but stuff like the gon hair and the leg accessories are traced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunJ Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, rainbowkitten said: then you can say the winner also inspired by those people he admired too, right? why he can't? Yes the winner can get inspired by those people he admired, but Does it count as inspiration when s/he just trace the design from other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowkitten Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, ShunJ said: Yes the winner can get inspired by those people he admired, but Does it count as inspiration when s/he just trace the design from other? then how about these? http://imgur.com/UGwfkNS http://imgur.com/VUFtr51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julymarte Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 did you read what i said? i'm studying to become a comic artist and trust me i know what you're talking about character design is a whole different thing even when it comes to copy , cause there are other things on the table like character stereotypes, tributes, fashion you can't talk about tracing until you find two pictures that are straight up identical with only the clothes changed or a little detail added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ander01se Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 10 pages and not a word from the mods / devs... :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyWing Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, rainbowkitten said: it is identical, like that Miharu and Ritsuka one. there is no difference at all... why are you not calling it a blatant tracing? while u accusing the winner that not even copy the face as blatant tracing? It only traces certain parts of some designs, not the entire design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowkitten Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 it is identical, like that Miharu and Ritsuka one. there is no difference at all... why are you not calling it a blatant tracing? while u accusing the winner that not even copy the face as blatant tracing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishtar Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 You lot needs to look up the word "tracing" before jumping on the bandwagon! Here' Tracing (art), copying an object or drawing, especially with the use of translucent tracing paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jem Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, ander01se said: 10 pages and not a word from the mods / devs... :o ^ This, lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulsHunter Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/7/2016 at 0:07 PM, shinnabuns said: 12 hours ago, Kurokazu said: I can't really see how the chest plate and belt is traced. The surface pattern is different, the shape is also different. BUT the hairstyle & hairband & the shoe is totally traced! How can anyone deny that? Please open your eyes and look @.@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishtar Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, SoulsHunter said: I can't really see how the chest plate and belt is traced. The surface pattern is different, the shape is also different. BUT the hairstyle & hairband & the shoe is totally traced! How can anyone deny that? Please open your eyes and look @.@ If someone keeps digging, pretty sure more would eventually pop up lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canny Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Why is it the majority of you who are defending the AiW outfit using so many excuses... Just because something looks good, it does not justify unorthodox methods to obtain reward. It really isn't hard to understand... if person A scored 100 points on an exam due to cheating, they should receive a failing grade instead of being rewarded for their behavior. There, I dumb -downed the analogy for you man-children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowkitten Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 i'm not jumping into any bandwagon, just answering someone that thinks that my point of view is wrong... and i saw people denying that guy saying night luna is not based in kirito outfit... i'm ok with that.... but then i show something that is blatant tracing and they also denied that... so what do you want? the winner to get jailed or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canny Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Deny the art thieves of reward and later participation to any contest hosted by BnS. It's not that hard to think about either. All in all, BnS as a community need to discourage unethical behaviors like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julymarte Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 1 hour ago, SoulsHunter said: I can't really see how the chest plate and belt is traced. The surface pattern is different, the shape is also different. BUT the hairstyle & hairband & the shoe is totally traced! How can anyone deny that? Please open your eyes and look @.@ cause we later got to the conclusion that the dress is inspired while the rest is tracing the mask too is an elaboration of a traced work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma Frost Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Guys don't even bother arguing with rainbow kitten. He's been repeating the same complaints over and over for the past 7 pages, no matter how valid arguments you present against him. It's obvious that he's either somehow affiliated with the winner (or maybe is the winner) or wants this costume really badly in game. It's most likely the former. OP needs to edit his/her first post to include the photo and gif evidence provided by the users in this thread. Once any level-headed person sees this, they'll know the costume was a blatant copy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
854450_1452550237 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 22 minutes ago, rainbowkitten said: http://imgur.com/UGwfkNS http://imgur.com/VUFtr51 tell me what are these if not tracing? some of them even have some hair/face They are not traces. They are not even the same characters and they are all different. I bet you have not even look at what I have said. So here I am going to this, I will paste the first image you linked me and point out the differences, then I will let you be the judge if this particular piece is a trace or not. Ishada vs Yoite: Ishada: has a thin and square face, wears glasses, hair sytle is more tamed. Eyes are much colder and smaller has larger eye highlights/shiners, Nose is more broad and round. Eyes are black. Yoite: Has more of a thick line and pointer face, does not wear glass, hair is more wild and longer. Eyes are bigger, has smaller eye highlights. Eyes are blue. Miharu vs Ritsuka: Miharu: hair is much more wild compared to Ritsuka, have bigger and wider eyes than ritsuka, bigger ears, smaller face. Ritsuka: Hair is much tamed. Pupils are more narrowed/thin. Longer face. Dark grey eyes. Raiko's friend vs Lenalee: Raiko: smaller face, wider eyes. Short hair style, short bangs. Has black hair. Lenalee: Long hair despite being short, longer hair bangs, has deep sea green hair that appears to be black but not entirely. Has black colored eyes or a darker color because I can see some highlighting in her pupils. Face is longer. nose is longer Smaller eyes but more opened. Mr. K vs Kurz: Not even going to point this out... they look NOTHING alike. So I guess all blonde girls with blue eye are the same then huh? Eyes vs Leonard: Same thing. Look nothing alike... One has longer eye lashes and different eye color. Same hair color, not even the same style long but one is straight the others is curly... Is this a trace? : shoes looked traced from golden deva. Look closely my friend... and read this carefully "Line for Line". A person who heavily "reference" an image whether it is a pose or a costume their lines will never match up. A trace will match up, no matter how much you deform or shrink the image, people can easily go to Photoshop like they're doing now and bloom up the size to see if the lines match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyWing Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 8 minutes ago, rainbowkitten said: i'm not jumping into any bandwagon, just answering someone that thinks that my point of view is wrong... and i saw people denying that guy saying night luna is not based in kirito outfit... i'm ok with that.... but then i show something that is blatant tracing and they also denied that... so what do you want? the winner to get jailed or something? What did you find that was traced? I'm not trying to say that you're wrong, I just seemed to have missed the post. Edit: nevermind, I've seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowkitten Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 14 minutes ago, 854450_1452550237 said: They are not traces. They are not even the same characters and they are all different. I bet you have not even look at what I have said. So here I am going to this, I will paste the first image you linked me and point out the differences, then I will let you be the judge if this particular piece is a trace or not. Ishada vs Yoite: Ishada: has a thin and square face, wears glasses, hair sytle is more tamed. Eyes are much colder and smaller has larger eye highlights/shiners, Nose is more broad and round. Eyes are black. Yoite: Has more of a thick line and pointer face, does not wear glass, hair is more wild and longer. Eyes are bigger, has smaller eye highlights. Eyes are blue. Miharu vs Ritsuka: Miharu: hair is much more wild compared to Ritsuka, have bigger and wider eyes than ritsuka, bigger ears, smaller face. Ritsuka: Hair is much tamed. Pupils are more narrowed/thin. Longer face. Dark grey eyes. Raiko's friend vs Lenalee: Raiko: smaller face, wider eyes. Short hair style, short bangs. Has black hair. Lenalee: Long hair despite being short, longer hair bangs, has deep sea green hair that appears to be black but not entirely. Has black colored eyes or a darker color because I can see some highlighting in her pupils. Face is longer. nose is longer Smaller eyes but more opened. Mr. K vs Kurz: Not even going to point this out... they look NOTHING alike. So I guess all blonde girls with blue eye are the same then huh? Eyes vs Leonard: Same thing. Look nothing alike... One has longer eye lashes and different eye color. Same hair color, not even the same style long but one is straight the others is curly... Is this a trace? : shoes looked traced from golden deva. Look closely my friend... and read this carefully "Line for Line". A person who heavily "reference" an image whether it is a pose or a costume their lines will never match up. A trace will match up, no matter how much you deform or shrink the image, people can easily go to Photoshop like they're doing now and bloom up the size to see if the lines match. well i can answer your answer with the lower part of the mask is different and there are pigtails on the hair. so it's not same right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulsHunter Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 1 minute ago, rainbowkitten said: well i can answer your answer with the lower part of the mask is different and there are pigtails on the hair. so it's not same right? So if I trace the hair with the two pigtails, and add one more pigtails somewhere? Will you say I did not traced it? The hair style is still traced, whether you add anything else or not, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyWing Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, rainbowkitten said: well i can answer your answer with the lower part of the mask is different and there are pigtails on the hair. so it's not same right? The mask is pretty much copied with some minor tweaks. Both hairstyles have pigtails, so I don't know what you're trying to say about that. What you showed earlier is more of an example of different art styles. The characters look similar, but they weren't just traced and then tweaked slightly. They have the same general design, but they were drawn in a different style by different people. You couldn't lay the characters over each other and have them be almost identical like you could with the mask, hair, and leg accessory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowkitten Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 then what about this picture? if it's about face/hair i got ton of them here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
854450_1452550237 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, rainbowkitten said: well i can answer your answer with the lower part of the mask is different and there are pigtails on the hair. so it's not same right? Mask is the same.... even the lower part, she may have design the insides different but the outline? it's still the same: Only thing she shape differently is making the opening a spade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowkitten Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Just now, 854450_1452550237 said: Mask is the same.... even the lower part, she may have design the insides different but the outline? it's still the same: Only thing she shape differently is making the opening a spade. hmm, a person with good working eyes can see that lower part is different... winner's mask has holes on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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