WLraik

Ncwest, you don't want to solve the Moonstone problem, admit it.

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WLraik   

Why? Why you don't want to fix it?

Server Link: awesome and needed but the prices went UP. 

Mushin's Tower F14-15, prices went UP.

Transmuting 6 seeds: the chance of getting a moonstone bundle is SO low that it doesn't count as statistics.

 

Just ask me why you don't want to solve this problem? It's SUPER simple.

You think people will be more interested in the game by punishing them with RNG? NO.

You don't want to put Moonstones in F10 because it'll be p2w? You are already doing it with gems and soulstones, don't lie to us you don't want this game to be p2w.

Why you don't put Moonstones in the dungeons loot table? Make it a standard drop like Stingers, PROBLEM SOLVED. 

 

But no, you keep doing these time based SUPER ULTRA HEAVY RNG stupid events that DOESN'T FIX SHIT.

 

Believe me, the WEST players likes to be rewarded after hours of grind, we don't mind the grind AT ALL but we do mind getting nothing after all that grind.

This is why heavy RNG games just DIES super fast in the west, Wildstar, BDO, Aion. And games with soft/little RNG are still healthy like Wow, gw2, swtor, FFXIV.

 

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Pesto   

or maybe there is no problem?

 

what seems to be the problem with not being able to get moonstones that quickly?

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5 minutes ago, Pesto said:

or maybe there is no problem?

 

what seems to be the problem with not being able to get moonstones that quickly?

Mostly to help new players to upgrade their AP to be able to actually join the high-AP crowd.

 

More steady (not RNG) supply, cheaper prices, faster gear progression, better sense of achievement, practice doing dungeons and skills, more experienced people to run difficult dungeons, the feeling of Oomph.

 

All of these leads to happier players.

 

Happier players root for the game more, and spend more.

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I do understand the frustration of OP and it makes more sense to me to add Moonstones to Dungeons. You need a lot of them for gear upgrade and many people rather not do it through open world PvP where players are way overgeared. I know a lot of players that just don't enjoy open world PvP much, why isnt there an alternative other than mushin tower which is really boring.. just add them to dungeons and daily challenge rewards, or people I know will quit the game since the grind is too much. It's an mmo, grind should be in it but to force players to play content where gear matters is not solving much.

 

Suggestion @Rukkirii

Add 5 moonstones to daily challenge completion, it will definitely help players gear up and bring the market price down.

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Reap00   

They have to keep the moonstone supply as low as possible. This guarantees more people waste more money on the next trove.

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WLraik   
1 hour ago, Pesto said:

or maybe there is no problem?

 

what seems to be the problem with not being able to get moonstones that quickly?

How many hours do you play a day? Please don't lie.

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Reap00   

I betcha my left nut he is one of those wackadoos that is in ssp ALL DAY LONG.

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Pesto   
18 minutes ago, WLraik said:

How many hours do you play a day? Please don't lie.

maybe 2-3? however long it takes for me to finish the daily challenge + all the level 50 purple dungeons, usually done within two tops i would say.

the rest of the time is wasted, either on pvp, or just socializing

no i dont have 700 ap 

but you don't need 700 ap to play the game

in fact, you can get by with around 550 for everything that has been released thus far. 500 if you like pushing it close to enrage timers

and you can get 550 easy with minimal moonstone used.

 

for example, i havent logged into game today yet, i was playing overwatch for about an hour earlier, then i went out to buy some food. now i am home i am gonna watch some tv shows while i eat, then after i finish eating i plan on logging on and finishing all the stuff. probably finishing around 1230 am i would guess. that's a typical day for me when i play.

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cokaine   
1 hour ago, Reap00 said:

They have to keep the moonstone supply as low as possible. This guarantees more people waste more money on the next trove.

this is the only reason

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1 hour ago, Alysha Hawkeye said:

Mostly to help new players to upgrade their AP to be able to actually join the high-AP crowd.

 

More steady (not RNG) supply, cheaper prices, faster gear progression, better sense of achievement, practice doing dungeons and skills, more experienced people to run difficult dungeons, the feeling of Oomph.

 

All of these leads to happier players.

 

Happier players root for the game more, and spend more.

I could not agree more

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Pesto   

I like how you people think spending money in cash shop is a waste tho.

I swear people nowadays are so used to handouts it's like anytime something isn't actually fully free they enrage faster than asura after 5 blooms

how much do you spend on a typical night out eating something other than mcdonalds or dennys?

how much do you spend going to watch the next marvel movie

how much do you spend on clothing and apparel that is nonessential? 

how much do people actually win on the average night out to a casino

 

yet we pay for those things willingly

but no, not for internet games, virtual goods should be free, who cares about the number of working hours invested into this virtual product that i am spending a couple hours a week on

 

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13 minutes ago, Reap00 said:

I betcha my left nut he is one of those wackadoos that is in ssp ALL DAY LONG.

I was one of those. Until I gave up on getting keys. 

1 hour ago, Reap00 said:

They have to keep the moonstone supply as low as possible. This guarantees more people waste more money on the next trove.

Golden 10/10

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Pesto   
Just now, Reap00 said:

Dude you have something brown on your nose.

i mean, if you don't see why resorting to personal attacks is a weak argument for your case....

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Reap00   
5 minutes ago, Pesto said:

i mean, if you don't see why resorting to personal attacks is a weak argument for your case....

You took that as a personal attack? A bit thin skinned there bud. I will drop this though.

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Pesto   
2 minutes ago, KnowNoFear said:

but that was a personal attack o-0

maybe he physically came to my location here in vancouver and noticed that i had something brown on my nose and wanted to let me know so ican clean it off.

 

sounds so much nicer than implying i have shit on my nose from sucking up to ncsoft tho that's for sure XD

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10 minutes ago, Reap00 said:

You took that as a personal attack? A bit thin skinned there bud. I will drop this though.

but that was a personal attack o-0

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5 minutes ago, Pesto said:

maybe he physically came to my location here in vancouver and noticed that i had something brown on my nose and wanted to let me know so ican clean it off.

 

sounds so much nicer than implying i have shit on my nose from sucking up to ncsoft tho that's for sure XD

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I've played this game since its release in the US and I stopped playing at around mid 2015 or early 2016 because it was just so grindy of a game. I hope that one day there will be an MMO with creators that know the difference between working for stronger gear and just straight up bullshit.

Edited by PraiseDasSun

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Shadovvv   
2 hours ago, Pesto said:

or maybe there is no problem?

what seems to be the problem with not being able to get moonstones that quickly?

There really isn't a problem. People seem to be forgetting that the amount of Moonstones needed for upgrading is A LOT LESS than the Stinger amount. There isn't that much of a grind to getting Moonstones as people make it out to be.

 

Be glad they at least did something rather than absolutely nothing.

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2 minutes ago, Pesto said:

but if you sold the time machine you used to play this game in 2014 on the US server you would have so much money to buy everything and skip the grind!

Oh yeah I forgot it wasn't in 2014, mb

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Pesto   
13 minutes ago, PraiseDasSun said:

I've played this game since its release in the US and I stopped playing at around late 2014 or early 2015 because it was just so grindy of a game. I hope that one day there will be an MMO with creators that know the difference between working for stronger gear and just straight up bullshit.

but if you sold the time machine you used to play this game in 2014 on the US server you would have so much money to buy everything and skip the grind!

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4 minutes ago, Shadovvv said:

There really isn't a problem. People seem to be forgetting that the amount of Moonstones needed for upgrading is A LOT LESS than the Stinger amount. There isn't that much of a grind to getting Moonstones as people make it out to be.

 

Be glad they at least did something rather than absolutely nothing.

 

9 minutes ago, Shadovvv said:

There really isn't a problem. People seem to be forgetting that the amount of Moonstones needed for upgrading is A LOT LESS than the Stinger amount. There isn't that much of a grind to getting Moonstones as people make it out to be.

 

Be glad they at least did something rather than absolutely nothing.

it costs 847 moonstones not counting awakened accs 

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Shadovvv   
4 minutes ago, KnowNoFear said:

it costs 847 moonstones not counting awakened accs 

Okay, count how many stingers are required and compare.

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25 minutes ago, Shadovvv said:

 

 

25 minutes ago, Shadovvv said:

 

 

 

14 minutes ago, Shadovvv said:

 

 

14 minutes ago, Shadovvv said:

Okay, count how many stingers are required and compare.

2688 not counting awakened accs why the *cricket* is this forum so confusing on replying to quotes

and the boxes are still there wtf

Edited by KnowNoFear
too many quotes why *cricket* is it so confusing

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15 minutes ago, KnowNoFear said:

 

 

 

 

2688 not counting awakened accs why the *cricket* is this forum so confusing on replying to quotes

and the boxes are still there wtf

'cause NCSoft being NCSoft. Also, It's a free game, you are in the same boat like me, pal. We are still playing this game because there is no other good game in 2016. I Will play "We happy few" tomorrow but sadly there is no other good MMO this year. Just chill and play the game, don't try to get upset 'bout the game because some phoenix will ban you from the forums.
That bird of fire is dangerous around here...

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