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13 hrs since this thread was opened and it already has 4 pages full of posts. While if someone opens up complaining or giving feedback about really important aspects of the gamr, it barely gets any replies. And then you all cry NCWest is shit and that they don't listen to the community feedback. They do! If theh see 1000 posts about a costume complain that it doesn't have breasts, ofc they will address that issue first, and then they will consider taking into consideration the threads with 2 posts about really important issues from the game.

It is now clear to me that the community carea more to have lyns with breasts, than having better ping and fps. 

No offense intended, just my honest opinion.

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Why does it bother you that much? Do childish looking characters turn you on? If so, you might have a problem.

Actually, two versions of the lyn swimsuit were released on other servers. You can either get the one with breast or without, so NCSOFT isn't censoring anything. They just chose not to release the one

40 minutes ago, KaelRhain said:

Well, lets change the point of view then. 

 

Think how it will be to be a Gon, you are tall and every other race is small to your side, even humans and yun looks like so called gon kids, but they aren't, would you still treat them like they where? If you answer is a yes, well, the problem is all in your own mind and i feel sad for every small person that cross your path in life.

 

Is common that people doesn't like to change their point of view, and resist to even reason, if it where easier this world would be a lot different.

Your reaching.....like kinda far atm. Gon are tall and even if they dwarf all other races it would change nothing. The rest of the races in size compared to gon is not the same to lyn compared to everything else. It is not just a size difference so that whole gon comparison can go.

 

The entire lyn race is not based off "midgets", they are not based off "small adults". They are based on a child like appearance and to claim otherwise is straight denial. Am I saying they are all children? not at all, but they are based of that of a child in appearance. To say that people who see children is an issue is an issue in itself. Aesthetically they are children and not a single one of you can honestly deny this. If you try then THAT is an actual issue. You don't have to see them as just children but that changes little. People see a child sexualized because it looks like a damn child sexualized? Apologies for the curse but it is shocking that people are finding it that difficult to grasp.

 

If an actor of 25 and older portray a younger under aged person in danger do you say to yourself "it's ok she is actually an adult" or do you see a child in danger? Appearance is everything and the lyn appear to be children. People may think an older lyn but it is still in a child like body naturally giving the response of "no thank you". 

 

To put it as simple as I can. People don't like to see children being sexualized. Lyn regardless of if you know their age have the appearance of children. 2+2=?

It really is that simple. I personally give less then 3 squirts about the mini boobage since I have a dislike for the way people make their lyn characters look in general so what's one extra thing? So it isn't that part that gets me feeling "eh" but the idiotic statements and lack of basic understanding of the issue. It isn't rocket science. 

24 minutes ago, Ciocolici said:

13 hrs since this thread was opened and it already has 4 pages full of posts. While if someone opens up complaining or giving feedback about really important aspects of the gamr, it barely gets any replies. And then you all cry NCWest is shit and that they don't listen to the community feedback. They do! If theh see 1000 posts about a costume complain that it doesn't have breasts, ofc they will address that issue first, and then they will consider taking into consideration the threads with 2 posts about really important issues from the game.

It is now clear to me that the community carea more to have lyns with breasts, than having better ping and fps. 

No offense intended, just my honest opinion.

This is just honestly silly. People have been complaining about this games issues for the LONGEST. Go check the many earlier threads from way back when, when people actually fully gave a squirt? Most of those people are long gone and those that are left like as is or just remain quiet about it. Not that it would even matter and would you like to know why? Because NC is still making money! a complaint means diddly if your funds don't show issue. So instead of complaining about lack of complaints how about you instead complain to those that fund this game despite those complaints yea? 

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25 minutes ago, ChubbyFatBoy said:

To put it as simple as I can. People don't like to see children being sexualized. Lyn regardless of if you know their age have the appearance of children. 2+2=?

 

There's your real problem.  Some of us never looked at lyn and saw children.  :p  So the real issue could be with those who want to see them as children.

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50 minutes ago, Brand X said:

There's your real problem.  Some of us never looked at lyn and saw children.  :p  So the real issue could be with those who want to see them as children.

The lyn are aesthetically of a child like race. This honestly isn't even debatable. I am not saying they are children BUT they resemble children. That is about where it ends and the entire issue people have with it begins. I don't look at Hong and think "child" because I know he isn't. But that doesn't change that he honestly looks like an old man with a child's body. I already understand the whole "I don't see them as kids". Believe it or not I do get it. Lyns are adults AND children and have different sizes, voices and occasional facial hair to showcase that. However, they still all have a resemblance to children. Not small adults or midgets with defining features that show any form of adult hood. But small, slim, smoothed bodied children. Majority of them still have a childlike face even when older while the rest of the races in comparison? not so much.

 

Also it isn't about what a person "wants" to see and is instead about what people "do" see. You really think the people against it WANT to see children sexualized? I mean come come now. The Lyn race would be seen as a child a lot quicker and easily then it would an adult. This is what I am saying and that is why issues will arise. It doesn't make a difference if you KNOW they aren't because they still honestly look it. Once again I do not have an issue with the breast (what I did earlier was for the LoLz and I even made that pretty clear beforehand) and have already specifically stated where my issue lies. It is just unlike other people in here, I can still see where the actual issue is even while not caring either way. 

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1 minute ago, Zaign said:

How did this actually manage to get 100+ replies? its just a costume that adds breasts to a race that doesn't normally have them. Night Luna does this and is barely worn by anyone. Some of you need to chill :v

Night luna is ugly though. The binki is not

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How did this actually manage to get 100+ replies? its just a costume that adds breasts to a race that doesn't normally have them. Night Luna does this and is barely worn by anyone. Some of you need to chill :v

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22 minutes ago, Kuronee said:

Night luna is ugly though. The binki is not

Then you can get the normal one of the two. If you want boobies that bad, play a different race? They look better anyway lol.

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I think it's pretty disgusting and borderline pedophile to want boobs in an outfit that's already skimpy on the lyn. What is wrong with you people? My friends and I are all wondering about the same thing. If you want to have boobs, go pick a more mature race.

 

Seriously, the fact that this is even being debated on with people actually trying to come up with arguments for the perverted option disturbs me. 

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10 hours ago, Emma Frost said:

I think it's pretty disgusting and borderline pedophile to want boobs in an outfit that's already skimpy on the lyn. What is wrong with you people? My friends and I are all wondering about the same thing. If you want to have boobs, go pick a more mature race.

 

Seriously, the fact that this is even being debated on with people actually trying to come up with arguments for the perverted option disturbs me. 

Though people have their opinions and i understand both sides. You gotta realize they aren't ELINS. They are not the embodiment of children.They grow old, they can breed and have babies.  You can make your lyns look old. Even make them have beards. Hell you can even deform them. . who cares if people want the Binki with boobs or not? let them have what they want.. It is in the game. Came out in korea so we will most likely get it. No one is pedophiles for playing lyn. That argument is old and stale.  For the record  i do have lyns and i do have all the races. I play Yun and my Lyn the most. 

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1 hour ago, Emma Frost said:

I think it's pretty disgusting and borderline pedophile to want boobs in an outfit that's already skimpy on the lyn. What is wrong with you people? My friends and I are all wondering about the same thing. If you want to have boobs, go pick a more mature race.

 

Seriously, the fact that this is even being debated on with people actually trying to come up with arguments for the perverted option disturbs me. 

Cuz  you and your friends take your seriousness too serious for a video game. Why so serious? Lyn, chest or flat, is just pixels. The game is a world of fantasy where people use for a brief escape of reality, as long as it is all legal and moral, unless NCSoft turns it into porn, which they never do. Why bringing reality and your "justice" to the game where people have fun?

 

Does it make you feel yourself being better in term of morality in a place where morality should be a bit more lax?

 

And who are you, to judge the world when you don't even try to put yourself in their shoes? Who are you to judge all people cuz their preference doesn't match yours? It is because of people like you that people are now afraid of saying "I like children", cuz people will immediately interpret that phrase as something sexual.

 

Remember that it's NCSoft that design Lyn characters to have small and slender body of a child, regardless of age. Heck, many people want to make sexy cat girls, or buffed wolf dudes, but they have no choice: either playing other races without ears and tails, or playing little Lyn while trying to make them look as "mature" as possible, which unfortunately only reach the pre-teen body at max height. Having a sizable chest can be also considered as "mature", cuz, even utter-flat girls doesn't have a washboard like female Lyn.

 

But NCSoft didn't stick to their own policy, cuz of profits and giggles. They first released the April Fool's "breast enlargement" service for Lyn. Then they added a Lyn-only swimsuit with chest. The most recent, Lunar outfit also has chest.


When there is an exception, people will keep expect for more. It's all about supply and demand. If you're not in demand, how about playing your games quietly, instead of trying to judge and annoy other people?

 

 

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Actually, the pedophiles are the ones NOT in demand, or else ncsoft wouldn't be rightfully censoring their outfits. How people get so defensive over their ability to make their child like characters have breasts and dress scantily is a sad indication of where our society is headed. Would you want this for your own daughter? If it's simply just pixels to you, you should have no qualms about making a jin or yun then. 

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8 hours ago, XO said:

Alot of people have compared them to Elin which makes no sense because they are in a whole different game.

Just because Lyn are small does not make them childlike. How is this so hard to understand? That not everyone looks at Lyns and see a child? You think all these things with Lyn, what about Jin? Which is another race that has child npcs? Or are they fine cause they are taller?

You say you aren't ignorant but aren't you?
 

The fact is I do not find it inappropriate if a Lyn female can have a chest because I do not see anything wrong with boobs? I don't find it disgusting for a female char to have a chest because the creepy thoughts that enter your mind/others do not cross mine at all. Does that make me ignorant to creepy people? Nope. I find it more wrong and disturbing that people think the things they have with Lyn because any normal person doesn't think that? Like all I see is fashion, and how right now their torso is just a c&p of males and it bugs me. It bugs me that people flip over boobs when the only reason boobs are so bad is because boys aren't taught to control themselves around them? So ofc the girl pays for it even apparently in a pixel world lol.

Lyn being small and majority of their bodies being that way doesn't make them look child-like to you? Hmm... lol. Ok then. No use arguing with you on this point. Will prove to be futile for sure.

 

Majority of Jin in game are like young adults though. Some of the child Jin NPCs exist because of story sake or just because they wanted to add children in the local setting but majority of Jins created by players and their default models do not resemble prepubescent children in sharp contrast to the Lyn race.

 

I'm not ignorant because I play the game and I'm reporting what I see in game especially in regards to the kinds of Lyns I see. Majority of female Lyns in this game are played closer to their default model meaning they do indeed look like children.

 

Majority of the Lyn race in game do look like little girls and little girls do happen to have chests on the flatter side. That bugs you?  

 

omg......

 

Ok. Your last statements are a mess and make little to no sense. You're saying boys can't control themselves so the animated fictional girl will pay for it? Like what're we even on now here? Lol!

 

I also do share the same queries as the user above me. Why do you guys persist in having noticeable breasts on the body resembling that of a prepubescent girl? There are Jins, Gons, and Yuns already for that, all who have more mature and adult-like bodies. And in the real world we're already used to seeing how little children look like and they do not have noticeable breasts unless if they are fat or obese. So where is this drive to have boobs on little girl bodies coming from? For fashion's sake? Because it'll make more sense since they can reproduce?

 

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Dude, lyn can grow up and mature like every other race. Part of the human maturing process for females includes the development of breasts. Even for the lyn, since they are still considered human. Listen, I have no issues whether or not if we get the boobie swimsuit or not, all I know is that if the original version includes boobs on female lyn, keep it on. It all comes back the mere issue that Lyn females have no chest sliders and hence everyone also assumes they're all suppose to be child-like. Yes, they're suppose to be the "cute race", but that still doesn't explain the lack of breasts for females. I think it was just the developers being lazy or they really wanted to make them look like children (and if that's the case F*** that). 

 

The mere fact that they can mature though should be reason enough for them to be able to have boobs. I mean, you saw the lyns at brightstone village, some of them are old AF! Some even looking like normal adults, just shorter with big ears and a tail. So why not give them breasts is the real question, since clearly it looks scientifically possible for them.

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On topic of the subject yes it is  normal version, but there is a more cleavage version. I have a feeling we will get it before the end of summoner. They are probably trying to be fair to give all the races their swimsuits first, before they release the enhanced one.

 

off topic: Amazed this is 5 pages already

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7 hours ago, Rea Shinwa said:

I find this argument rather entertaining. Personally, I dont mind in the least having a Lyn race in BnS, with or witout boobs. In my culture (I am european) we aren't as paranoid about pedofilia lurking behind every corner and, in general, obssessed with sex, as other cultures seem to be. That said, my main is a Lyn for the only and sole reason that I wanted to play a blade dancer. Make that class available to Jin or Yun and you will find me buying a race chance voucher the next day. Not because I have anything against Lyn, but because I never felt identified with their features. My (female) Lyn is as tall as I could make her, slim, a bit eerie looking, with pale skin and silver eyes, neither kawaii nor loli in the least. Humans could see her as a teenager, even though they aren't meant to be human, just a different race (and btw, I was using a bra since 11 years old... that part of the discussion is truly amusing). I don't like censorship in any of its multiple forms, I refuse to have things edited to fit what this or that moral or ideology decides that I should think or not think, read or not read, see or not see. I reivindicate the right to decide for myself. 

Anyway... yes, if they ever made blade dancer available to Jin or Yun, I'd  be happy to leave my ears, tail and all the rest behind and customize my character a lot more to my liking. If not, oh well. I think all classes should be available to all races, to be honest.  

THIS^^

 

U Guys are all stupid really... i just want to have a mature Looking Blade Dancer... i would luv have a Blade Dancer Jin (Best would be Blademaster/Dancer mix ;) that be cool)

I really enjoy Blade Dancer coz they fast!!! They can give a crap about Stamina and do so many speed Stuff =D

So ether give me the Option make my Lyn look more mature with boobs and Taller and older... also be abel remove tail and ears if u not like them.

Or make me able have  Jin Blade Dancer ... simple is that...

 

PS: I dont know wth some ppl are on about here but...

1: Lyn are no Children but they look childlike yes.. (exactly why i want option make them more adult looking)

2: Pedos are into flat chested like Children or Babys.... so why would they want a mature looking Lyn?

3: U Guy are really bored for having this topic 5 pages long.. 

 

PS: I wonder why so many PPl complain about this anyway... i will just use a Mod and give a *cricket* now... im more anyoed by my ping and fps drops...

And that they removed Dark Arts Patk And Skills also remoed over 300 Quest... and all Acces and Weapon Paths Beside Hongmoon ... this would actually be worth talking about over 100 pages then Lyn Boobs... since like i said u can just Mod yourself... but ya give me Jin Blade Dancer now !

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Well from what I saw people all say "Lyns are kids" so they don't seem like they want to understand his pov either. Anyway just read Page 1 of this thread. So dunno how much this escalated.

 

I do admit it is very hard to make a Lyn that doesn't looks chibi/childish. I prefer the boob version, because it makes my tall Lyn look like a teenager and not like a 5 year old, which is rather more disturbing for me storywise. Thinking about Dochun sending a 5 year old Lyn into battle against pirates and bandits... *shivers*
 

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Not to say there should be exceptions to some Lyn's. I think the outfit should be for all lyns. But proportionally speaking, the Lyn I made is probably as tall as the me irl. So if I can have boobs irl, my Lyn can have boobs. But I'm fine with my Lyn being flat chested because I'm pretty flat chested irl. I tried to make my Jin my Lyn's height because I want my chars short like me irl and she ended up looking so short compared to the other jin females but had huge boobs even though I moved that slider to lowest possible that i felt like I made a monstrosity. The boobs given on the Lyn swimsuit aren't even huge boobs. Those are the types of boobs I wish I could give my Jin instead. :/ Also, I kind of imagined the Lyn race as a race just stuck with stunted growth like dwarfism. Never thought of them as children. 

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