IlPalazzo Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I started playing this game recently, but I really do not understand why this game force closes at any disconnect. And if I try to reconnect right away, it says I am already logged in. Basically if your connection hiccups, you are banned from the game for 15 minutes. If you are just playing pve solo, it's disappointing. If you are in the end of a long dungeon, it is a disaster. I have not such a bad design chioce for years, is there really any reason for this? In any other they you would be kicked to the character select screen, and would lose 30 seconds to a minute, why do we have to RELOAD THE WHOLE FRIGGING GAME in BnS? Please help me understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicorns Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I agree 100%. I would even be okay with having to load the game if it wasnt for the "your account is already logged in" bs. The NC launcher is to blame for that, back when there was an easy way to bypass the launcher and i had to do it because the NC launcher wouldnt work for me, you could log in directly in the client, and it had the option, like many games, to "force log" so if your account was already logged in (which is alwasy the case when your connection hiccups), AT LEAST you could force log and not have to log the game twice, but since now we log in the crappy NC launcher, the force log option is just not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viblo Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I have been seeing complaints about disconnects, but I don't understand it. I do know that NCSOFT doesn't give a single *cricket* about this game, but I have never in my seven months on this game experienced a disconnect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlPalazzo Posted July 9, 2016 Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 It's a matter of wifi signal unstability and the game being overzelous kicking you out... and the whole design of what happens next makes it ridicolous. "we lost the signal for 1 second, the dude surely detached this modem cable by chioce and does not want to play anymore today, let's close the game" - makes perfect sense. Not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nopi Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 hmm we actually rilly need "force log in".. it can be use in this case and when some1 use another our account.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qpoljanan Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Remember back in old games like RAN, MU, Ragnarok, and so on, where getting dc'd simply throws you back to the log in screen and not having to *cricket*ing boot up the client again which eats up a lot of unnecessary load from your GPU? Account security my ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NN13 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Let me be honest here - As much as this game was hyped for, this game was probably made by monkeys. There are so many design flaws and stupid designs in this game, it makes me cry every time something goes wrong. And the biggest is Firewalls in dungeons that insta-kill you. I mean who on their right mind designs this type of game? Anything happens - game closes - But not fully, you need to manually close the launcher after that - another shitty design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jem Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Game is actually 2012 but yes, I do agree with you OP. It's just terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColorfulDispensary Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 5 hours ago, IlPalazzo said: It's a matter of wifi signal unstability and the game being overzelous kicking you out... and the whole design of what happens next makes it ridicolous. "we lost the signal for 1 second, the dude surely detached this modem cable by chioce and does not want to play anymore today, let's close the game" - makes perfect sense. Not. So because your net is unstable there design is crap? Why not fix your net instability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NN13 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 14 minutes ago, WhiteTrash said: So because your net is unstable there design is crap? Why not fix your net instability That does not give a free pass to the development team to not design something that most games have. There can be many reasons for a instability for a fraction of a second. BnS just kicks us out of the game, which is entirely unnecessary. It could have easily thrown us to the character selection screen so that we can resume faster. Moreover, every dungeon should have teleport portal right in the beginning once everyone reaches the boss room. I yesterday did not get Awakened Necropolis final boss because I got dc'ed and others did not wait. The reason is that it takes unnecessarily long to get back to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColorfulDispensary Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, NN13 said: That does not give a free pass to the development team to not design something that most games have. There can be many reasons for a instability for a fraction of a second. BnS just kicks us out of the game, which is entirely unnecessary. It could have easily thrown us to the character selection screen so that we can resume faster. Moreover, every dungeon should have teleport portal right in the beginning once everyone reaches the boss room. I yesterday did not get Awakened Necropolis final boss because I got dc'ed and others did not wait. The reason is that it takes unnecessarily long to get back to the team. I wouldn't know my net is good But why should they redesign everything from something that is caused on player side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NN13 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, WhiteTrash said: I wouldn't know my net is good But why should they redesign everything from something that is caused on player side Because almost all other games design it? Because the basic of software development teaches us to implement fail-safes in case of both server-side and client-side failures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColorfulDispensary Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 minute ago, NN13 said: Because almost all other games design it? Because the basic of software development teaches us to implement fail-safes in case of both server-side and client-side failures? So because other games do it they should too? Sweet that means I want monthly rng boxes like Tera they do it so it's fine Maybe they feel the client should resolve the client side failures i mean you don't see porn websites turning on your antivirus for you do you lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melodia Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 hour ago, WhiteTrash said: So because other games do it they should too? Sweet that means I want monthly rng boxes like Tera they do it so it's fine Maybe they feel the client should resolve the client side failures i mean you don't see porn websites turning on your antivirus for you do you lol Your argument just makes the 99.99% of the world's population do a massive facepalm-athon. Let me put it in layman's terms for you. Your analogy is the equivalent of saying "just because the guy next door is a law abiding citizen and doesn't murder people, does it mean the rest of the neighbourhood should also be law abiding citizens and not murder people? Of course not. We should all go out and murder people because it's our free choice". Your pathetic effort at defending this game's faults is laughable. Thinking "it's not the dev's responsibility to give the game good design" rather it's the player's responsibility to cope with bad game design is just, stupid, for a lack of a better word. Go study Common Sense 101 before you come back to the internet, thnx. /facepalm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirectorTseng Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Wish NCsoft would return to how the games originally logged in. You would open the game client and log in from the game client. That way if you wanted to switch accounts you simply 'logged out' as were taken back to the main screen instead of having to shut the game down completely and relog in from the beginning. If for some reason you got DC'd you simply were sent back to the character selection screen (if it was a hiccup) or the log in screen if it was more then a hickup or your net went out. Lineage 2 and Aion both ran this way but recently they went to this stupid launcher that required you to log in before opening the actual game. So now if you DC you are kicked completely out of game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirectorTseng Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 IT didn't help the bot problem at the bots actually got ten times worse (but that's because Lineage 2 and Aion both allow dual boxing anyway.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColorfulDispensary Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, DirectorTseng said: IT didn't help the bot problem at the bots actually got ten times worse (but that's because Lineage 2 and Aion both allow dual boxing anyway.) I didn't say it works lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NN13 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 2 hours ago, WhiteTrash said: So because other games do it they should too? Sweet that means I want monthly rng boxes like Tera they do it so it's fine Maybe they feel the client should resolve the client side failures i mean you don't see porn websites turning on your antivirus for you do you lol Yes, because this world is one of competition. You either compete with other games or you become BnS West. Also, your "porn" example just showed you do not know about the very minimum basics of software development. So, I will just let this one go because I do not want to waste time with someone who is plain illiterate in this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColorfulDispensary Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, NN13 said: Yes, because this world is one of competition. You either compete with other games or you become BnS West. Also, your "porn" example just showed you do not know about the very minimum basics of software development. So, I will just let this one go because I do not want to waste time with someone who is plain illiterate in this matter. Lol I know more then you think lol I'm making outlandish statements to match the outlandish crys about a stupid launcher lol Its just funny how you millennials want everything easy and don't want to be inconvenienced and want everything your way oh noes I have to relaunch the launcher that's too much work lol give me a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackGTie Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, WhiteTrash said: Lol I know more then you think lol I'm making outlandish statements to match the outlandish crys about a stupid launcher lol Its just funny how you millennials want everything easy and don't want to be inconvenienced and want everything your way oh noes I have to relaunch the launcher that's too much work lol give me a break see i wasn't wrong... just another internet troll wasting our time. xD Another "tough guy" who feels better than the generation "after" him. LOL so mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCSOFT Aurinya Posted July 9, 2016 NCSOFT Share Posted July 9, 2016 Greetings, Please keep this thread on-topic, civil and constructive and always make sure to respect our forum’s Code of Conduct (CoC). And remember: We have an arena for PvP ;) Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColorfulDispensary Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, ZackGTie said: see i wasn't wrong... just another internet troll wasting our time. xD Another "tough guy" who feels better than the generation "after" him. LOL so mature. Maybe but I don't dc so I must be doing something right unlike you guys lol ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackGTie Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, WhiteTrash said: Maybe but I don't dc so I must be doing something right unlike you guys lol ? How can you bee so obnoxious? Great that you don't know what a disconnect is but why you ignore any other comments that go against your experience? Like i said before there are so many other thread of people complaining about this same issue. just because you don't have problems that doesn't mean their complains are any less valid. or you can just do a general search and inform yourself that you are not the only player in the game. https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/search/?q=disconects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NN13 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 24 minutes ago, WhiteTrash said: Lol I know more then you think lol I'm making outlandish statements to match the outlandish crys about a stupid launcher lol Its just funny how you millennials want everything easy and don't want to be inconvenienced and want everything your way oh noes I have to relaunch the launcher that's too much work lol give me a break Ah, the argument of "millennials". Apparently, whenever people fail to present proper reasoning, they argue with "you millennials". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColorfulDispensary Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 16 hours ago, ZackGTie said: How can you bee so obnoxious? Great that you don't know what a disconnect is but why you ignore any other comments that go against your experience? Like i said before there are so many other thread of people complaining about this same issue. just because you don't have problems that doesn't mean their complains are any less valid. or you can just do a general search and inform yourself that you are not the only player in the game. https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/search/?q=disconects OR maybe you need to look into your own issues like your WIRELESS timing out lol before blaming the game over your connection oh no it can't be something on your end that's not possible .....can't be a weak signal or low bandwidth no nothing like that would ever cause it its all the games fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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