SSP AKA shoulda rolled ranged.

[Vau]

this zone is broken. 

 

1st of all whoever got the bright idea of standing in the middle while pulling 2 quest mobs into areas that are potentially deadly for melee characters thank you, your a genius. esp when its the ardent mobs which can lol wtf pwn melee with there super cheap no time to react attacks.

 

oh yah the zone is laggy as all hell so yah reacting to them cheapo moves is even better. 

 

im so tired of doing "mining" up to 3 times to finish one quest. 

 

all king grindtooth aka runs away from melee all day while ranged gets credit. 

 

yah. tired of this. 

 

fix this garbage. i would not care if this content was not shoved down my throat. if i did not need soulstones for everything i would be fine with such trash.  

 

lower the cap for the area or something. then mabye melee would have a fighting chance.

 

and stop making pvp mobs hard by making them cheap. esp when the best PC's around are averaging 20fps in this area.

[882818_1452550493]

Stop bitching it's factions :v

[Corona1]

On 12-6-2016 at 6:27 AM, 882818_1452550493 said:

Stop bitching it's factions :v

That may be true. But factions is the -only- income of Soulstones and Moonstones, both of which you need in large quantities for even a single upgrade later on. 

[DannyMayCry]

On 12/06/2016 at 0:27 PM, 882818_1452550493 said:

Stop bitching it's factions :v

What? Of course it's factions. Problems are the terrors that knockbacks and grindtooth that keeps charging 3 bloody times and pissing melee players off.

[Quantum]

Eh, melee isn't as bad as people make it out to be at SSP.  Once you learn the terror's mechanics it becomes pretty easy to iframe their AoE.  As for grindtooth, burst it after it charges 3 times and iframe its AoE stun.

[Provois]

On 12.6.2016 at 2:50 AM, Vau said:

1st of all whoever got the bright idea of standing in the middle while pulling 2 quest mobs into areas that are potentially deadly for melee characters thank you, your a genius. esp when its the ardent mobs which can lol wtf pwn melee with there super cheap no time to react attacks.

Thats because almost only ranged doing this and they do just that what is most easy for them. The whole area is just pointless to do for melee character.

 

8 minutes ago, Quantum said:

Eh, melee isn't as bad as people make it out to be at SSP.  Once you learn the terror's mechanics it becomes pretty easy to iframe their AoE.  As for grindtooth, burst it after it charges 3 times and iframe its AoE stun.

Terror drop is worthless because it requiere keys which are more expensive then the stuff it contains worth. And to get loot from grindtooth is not possible for melee depend on which server you play to get loot there. Here on highland gate the boar is death before i can pullout damage with the burst after his 3 charges with 570 ap.

[Ch4oskn1ght]

36 minutes ago, Quantum said:

Eh, melee isn't as bad as people make it out to be at SSP.  Once you learn the terror's mechanics it becomes pretty easy to iframe their AoE.  As for grindtooth, burst it after it charges 3 times and iframe its AoE stun.

Do they have attack a pattern? They seem to be really random. If they have can you tell pls. I just started doing ssp as assassin cause the moonstones are just to expensive to buy. I use fighting spirit, burst as much as i can till i got low hp and wait outside their range so i dont get killed most of the time. With luck i can dodge some red aoes but most time it doesnt work out that well. With this methode i dont die that much but getting treasures this way is like 50/50 chance.

[Quantum]

1 hour ago, Provois said:

Terror drop is worthless because it requiere keys which are more expensive then the stuff it contains worth. And to get loot from grindtooth is not possible for melee depend on which server you play to get loot there. Here on highland gate the boar is death before i can pullout damage with the burst after his 3 charges with 570 ap.

Even if you go to the side that has less people you can't get credit?  Also do your server kill the unbound elite terrors?  They give keys too although it's kinda rare.

55 minutes ago, Ch4oskn1ght said:

Do they have attack a pattern? They seem to be really random. If they have can you tell pls. I just started doing ssp as assassin cause the moonstones are just to expensive to buy. I use fighting spirit, burst as much as i can till i got low hp and wait outside their range so i dont get killed most of the time. With luck i can dodge some red aoes but most time it doesnt work out that well. With this methode i dont die that much but getting treasures this way is like 50/50 chance.

Yep they have an attack pattern, grindtooth's attack pattern is pretty consistent.  It always does the AoE stun after it charges 3 times.  Never really payed attention to its other attacks but they're pretty easy to dodge.  From what I can tell, grindtooth has 2 red AoE stuns and you usually can see an electric effect around him before he does it.

 

As for terrors they're a bit more tough to get the hang of.  I know some people say that they AoE about every 20 seconds.  To be honest I don't know how to explain it, it's mostly about observing how many melee/range attacks he does before he does an aoe and then go with that to predict when they're gonna aoe again.  You're lucky, for some reason my game doesn't let me see the circular aoes but I can see the square ones.

[Provois]

18 minutes ago, Quantum said:

Even if you go to the side that has less people you can't get credit?  Also do your server kill the unbound elite terrors?  They give keys too although it's kinda rare.

Was on the side with less ppl and pulled of much damage as possible in this short time the Boar was alive used firebuild as BM with 570ap. Im sure i did ~150-200k dmg but wasn't enough to get loot.

 

They only kill the Terrors appearing during the mining stage on my server so far i noticed.

[KurooSakura]

Can I add some fuel to this fire?

 

This is what I got as a FM in 3 runs:

[Vau]

On 6/17/2016 at 11:18 AM, KurooSakura said:

Can I add some fuel to this fire?

 

This is what I got as a FM in 3 runs:

and this is why the price of moonstones is just simply highway robbery. its not fair that ranged can stand around sticking there finger up there butt and earn 400 gold while melee are lucky to make it through mining with the 25 prestige to do the stupid flower quest.

 

im on mushin too. so its always a zerg, both sides have a very small chance of melee getting credit when it comes to grindtooth seeing ranged can sit there and turret away while melee chase him around and lose out on a chance for a key and 15 ss. 

 

alot of the times they dont even split up, its like 120 people trying to get credit on a mob that has 4 million hp.

[Lunakitty]

Solution: Make SSP alt for only SSP use. That's what I did and enjoying my option the most.

[LordMg]

It wouldn't be so bad for my sin if all those pew pews didn't engage mobs as close to Big Bad Terror Boss as  possible for them withut getting aggro. So I can only stand and watch (or risk gtting killed by it). Or when they engage two or three terrors at once, gg avoiding their aoe spam. :'(

[InstantDeath]

On 12/06/2016 at 3:50 AM, Vau said:

this zone is broken. 

 

1st of all whoever got the bright idea of standing in the middle while pulling 2 quest mobs into areas that are potentially deadly for melee characters thank you, your a genius. esp when its the ardent mobs which can lol wtf pwn melee with there super cheap no time to react attacks.

 

oh yah the zone is laggy as all hell so yah reacting to them cheapo moves is even better. 

 

im so tired of doing "mining" up to 3 times to finish one quest. 

 

all king grindtooth aka runs away from melee all day while ranged gets credit. 

 

yah. tired of this. 

 

fix this garbage. i would not care if this content was not shoved down my throat. if i did not need soulstones for everything i would be fine with such trash.  

 

lower the cap for the area or something. then mabye melee would have a fighting chance.

 

and stop making pvp mobs hard by making them cheap. esp when the best PC's around are averaging 20fps in this area.

Been there, done that. But no matter how much sense it makes, they will not change the way it is. So just try to upgrade your items. +650 ap, 60% crit rate and 220% crit damage would do the trick even if the channel is full.

[sbc201]

BM with 650 AP and I can manage to get 8 prestige points for the killing of King Grindtooth with no Loot.  Same 8 prestige points for killing any of the other Bosses I get loot.  Now the Range have such an advantage over killing King Grindtooth.  How is that Fair NC Soft..... 

[Lukie]

2 hours ago, sbc201 said:

BM with 650 AP and I can manage to get 8 prestige points for the killing of King Grindtooth with no Loot.  Same 8 prestige points for killing any of the other Bosses I get loot.  Now the Range have such an advantage over killing King Grindtooth.  How is that Fair NC Soft..... 

when king grindtooth doing 3 charging melee  cant touch/dps ..but range from start to end free hit..how salty on melee